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    Posted: 12-Jul-2021 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by emiel1 emiel1 wrote:

Sjoe, twee van ons top drie loskoppe weg in een jaar. Enige jong loskoppe wat langtermyn kan inval later die jaar?

Wat het van Leo Kruger geword?
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Sjoe, twee van ons top drie loskoppe weg in een jaar. Enige jong loskoppe wat langtermyn kan inval later die jaar?
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Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Ek sien Rapport noem dat Nathan Mcbeth Glascow Warriors toe skuif. Sti Sithole  is darem n goeie stut wat sal kan oorvat...
Nathan is my pel se nefie. Hy het al n ruk terug vir my gese Nathan gaan waai.
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Sti is eintlik die nommer 1 loskop by ons
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Ek sien Rapport noem dat Nathan Mcbeth Glascow Warriors toe skuif. Sti Sithole  is darem n goeie stut wat sal kan oorvat...
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Stem saam.
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Dit is nie dat ek hom wil wegjaag nie, maar as hy wil gaan, laat hy gaan, dit is nie asof hy al n wereldklas afrigter is nie en ek voel ons het amper te veel cooks in die kitchen in terme van afrigters.

Ja ons het baie ander probleme ook, en ek stry nie daarmee nie.
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Originally posted by emiel1 emiel1 wrote:

Tuna, dink ons het verskillende opinies en perspektiewe. Ek kan verkeerd wees, maar volgens my was ons die afgelope seisoen of twee, redelik mededingend voorlangs, selfs teen sterbelaaide spanne soos die Bulle. Dit beteken beslis nie dat ons voorlangs op standaard is om internasionale aan te vat nie. Al wat ek se is dat ons eerstens aandag aan ons grootste tekortkomings moet gee. Ons is konstant baie een dimensioneeli op aanval, selfs wanneer ons meerderheid besit het, ons verdediging is hopeloos, en ons is takties onbeholpe. 


Ek dink nie ons opinies is anders nie, ek dink ons praat oor twee verskillende dinge. Die topic hier die laaste paar posts was oor WW wat moontlik waai. Toe noem ek dat al hou ek baie van hom as speler en mens, dat ek voel sy fokus punte by die Leeus doen ons nie baie goed in nie, naamliks die lynstane. Ja, terwyl ons voorpak goed doen, is ons lynstane met enige hakker pateties om dit mooi te stel. So wat jy sê mag waar wees, maar op die topic van WW wat moontlik Sharks toe gaan, voel ek dit sal nie n verlies wees nie.
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Tuna, dink ons het verskillende opinies en perspektiewe. Ek kan verkeerd wees, maar volgens my was ons die afgelope seisoen of twee, redelik mededingend voorlangs, selfs teen sterbelaaide spanne soos die Bulle. Dit beteken beslis nie dat ons voorlangs op standaard is om internasionale aan te vat nie. Al wat ek se is dat ons eerstens aandag aan ons grootste tekortkomings moet gee. Ons is konstant baie een dimensioneeli op aanval, selfs wanneer ons meerderheid besit het, ons verdediging is hopeloos, en ons is takties onbeholpe. 
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Well I think after 2 years, one can. If I am a manager of a certain aspect of a team in the corporate world and after 2 years we keep losing clients because of one of the members of my team, I am just as accountable as manager for the poor performance as what that member of the team is responsible there for. And then we also need to mention here that Campher is not much better than Botha and even Visagie's lineouts haven't always been great either.

I hope Transvaal can correct me here, but it is from the many interviews I have seen with him that I understood he is in charge of the lineouts and analysis (yes part of the forwards coaching staff, but these areas being his focus).

And emiel1, I am sorry, but few teams on Earth will win many games when they have as dodgy lineout as we have. It is one of the cornerstones of the game (especially in RSA) and by us it is almost certain that we will somehow either botch the lineout (lose the ball or knock on) or not have a good platform for attack or mauling from it when we even succeed at it.


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Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

While I am a massive fan of WW as a player and person, I feel he is too inexperienced to be coaching at this level. His focus was on the lineouts and also on analysis (I believe), and it just happens to turn out that the lineouts is our main weakness currently. I don't think WW must bear the full brunt of it as PJ Botha's throwing is pathetic, however WW should have somehow done something to let PJ improve by now or have made the call for him to be dropped.
definitely can't blame WW for PJ Botha being useless, PJ needs to take it on himself to go and throw 1000 balls at a target. Then go bulk up, learn to scrum and hit a few rucks. 

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Think WW is part of the forwards coaching setup with Philip Lemmer and Julian Redelinghuys. These 3 have generally done a good job in my opinion, considering the use of players that have just come out of junior ranks as well as the high turnover of experience. No, our main coaching issues remain poor defensive and skills coaching, as well as generally poor contracting by senior union officials. 
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While I am a massive fan of WW as a player and person, I feel he is too inexperienced to be coaching at this level. His focus was on the lineouts and also on analysis (I believe), and it just happens to turn out that the lineouts is our main weakness currently. I don't think WW must bear the full brunt of it as PJ Botha's throwing is pathetic, however WW should have somehow done something to let PJ improve by now or have made the call for him to be dropped.
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It will be a massive slap in the face to the Lions if WW abandons us after all we've done for him. 
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Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Sien nou op n ander site een ou reken WW is oppad na Sharks as deel van hulle afrigtingspan. Hoop rerig nie WW staan vir Warren Whiteley nie Sleepy
Oral op social media vra almal vir n nuwe afrigtingspan, so hy is seker maar van die eerste veranderinge.

Wat is sy rol presies? Is mos lynstane en nog iets? 
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Sien nou op n ander site een ou reken WW is oppad na Sharks as deel van hulle afrigtingspan. Hoop rerig nie WW staan vir Warren Whiteley nie Sleepy
Oral op social media vra almal vir n nuwe afrigtingspan, so hy is seker maar van die eerste veranderinge.
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Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Sien nou op n ander site een ou reken WW is oppad na Sharks as deel van hulle afrigtingspan. Hoop rerig nie WW staan vir Warren Whiteley nie Sleepy

Hopelik is daar 'n Willem Wessels iewers by die leeus!? Cry
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Sien nou op n ander site een ou reken WW is oppad na Sharks as deel van hulle afrigtingspan. Hoop rerig nie WW staan vir Warren Whiteley nie Sleepy
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Ek gaan met jou bietjie saamstem hier, dit voel vir my ons is bietjie lacking in die ambisie departement en voel ons kan kyk na ervare afrigters met 'n goeie track record al is dit net om vir Cash hulle bietjie bystand te gee. Ek dink dit sal alreeds vir ons 'n goeie begin punt wees. Maar soms lei ambisie ook tot mens se ondergang as mens "overreach", en daarvoor is ek bang en dit is wat ek voel die Bulle (deur die reels te probeer kul met die klub storie) en die Weepee (bankrotskap) doen.

As ons ook 'n equity partner kan kry wat 'n paar biljoene het en nie vir Altman in die rug steek en hom steeds betrokke hou in 'n groot mate, sal ek ook happy wees en my opinie sal dan ook bietjie verander.

Soos ek na dinge kyk gaan dit alles oor 'n span wat wen. As jou span aanhou wen lok jy meer supporters en investors. Supporters koop merchandise en maak jou stadion vol. Investors bele geld in 'n wenspan, nie 'n sukkelende span met lee stadions nie. 

Daarom dink ek die bulls is op die regte pad. Ja ek weti of alles above board is met hul signings nie, maar blerrie hel hul is besig om n baie goeie groep spelers te bou! Plus hul sit met 'n world cup winning coach.

As ons nie iewers n verandering aanbring en weer (gereeld) begin wen nie, gaan ons altyd bottom feeders bly. 
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Ek het nie geweet sy aandeel was so groot nie....
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Die volgende is 'n uittreksel uit die link wat ek bo gepos het:

The modern day Lions are effectively owned and controlled by Altmann Jacobus Allers. He owns 74.9% of the union through his company Foxbell Investments which forms part of the Glasfit group of companies which of he is also the majority shareholder. The Golden Lions Rugby Union has the other 25.1%
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En die geld wat hy aan die Leeus voorgeskiet het, neem ek aan was eintlik meer 'n lening, en uiteindelik kon die Leeus dit waarskynlik nie terug betaal nie, toe maak hulle maar 'n plan waar dit omgesit word in aandeelhouding. Ek spekuleer maar dis waarskynlik wat gebeur het. En dit beteken daarna was daar seker nie groot somme geld wat van sy kant af na die Leeus vloei nie
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Ek het iewers lank terug gehoor Altman is so R2 biljoen sterk. Dis 10% van die bulle se 2 beleggers
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Jy kan al die geld in die wêreld hê, jy sal steeds nie sukses behaal met ons huidge afrigtingspan nie.
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Ek gaan met jou bietjie saamstem hier, dit voel vir my ons is bietjie lacking in die ambisie departement en voel ons kan kyk na ervare afrigters met 'n goeie track record al is dit net om vir Cash hulle bietjie bystand te gee. Ek dink dit sal alreeds vir ons 'n goeie begin punt wees. Maar soms lei ambisie ook tot mens se ondergang as mens "overreach", en daarvoor is ek bang en dit is wat ek voel die Bulle (deur die reels te probeer kul met die klub storie) en die Weepee (bankrotskap) doen.

As ons ook 'n equity partner kan kry wat 'n paar biljoene het en nie vir Altman in die rug steek en hom steeds betrokke hou in 'n groot mate, sal ek ook happy wees en my opinie sal dan ook bietjie verander.
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