Lions vs Lions
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Topic: Lions vs Lions
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Lions vs Lions
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 1:42pm
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Saterdag 3 Julie op die park, afskop 18:00 Lions: 15. EW Viljoen; 14. Jamba Ulengo, 13. Manuel Rass, 12. Burger Odendaal, 11. Rabz Maxwane; 10. Jordan Hendrikse, 9. Dillon Smit; 8. Francke Horn (Capt), 7. Vincent Tshituka, 6. Sibusiso Sangweni, 5. Reinhard Nothnagel, 4. Ruben Schoeman, 3. Ruan Dreyer, 2. PJ Botha, 1. Nathan McBeth. Replacements: 16. Jaco Visagie, 17. Sti Sithole, 18. Carlu Sadie, 19. Ruhan Straeuli, 20. Emmanuel Tshituka, 21. Morne van den Berg, 22. Fred Zeilinga, 23. Dan Kriel. Lions: 15. Stuart Hogg, 14. Louis Rees-Zammit, 13. Chris Harris, 12. Owen Farrell, 11. Josh Adams, 10. Finn Russell, 9. Ali Price, 8. Taulupe Faletau, 7. Hamish Watson, 6. Courtney Lawes, 5. Jonny Hill, 4. Maro Itoje, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 2. Jamie George, 1. Wyn Jones. Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17. Mako Vunipola, 18. Zander Fagerson, 19. Iain Henderson, 20. Sam Simmonds, 21. Gareth Davies, 22. Bundee Aki, 23. Elliot Daly.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 1:42pm
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Die Leeus het 'n squad van 26 spelers aangewys vir die wedstryd: LIONS
SQUAD VS BRITISH AND IRISH LIONS 1.
Pieter Jacobus Botha 2.
Ruan Martin Dreyer 3.
Jan Nathaniel du Plessis 4.
Jordan Hendrikse 5.
Francke Horn 6.
Daniel David Kriel 7.
Jacobus Albertus Kriel 8.
Sibahle Ndiphiwe Maxwane 9.
Nathan McBeth 10. Reinhard Paul Nothnagel 11. Megiel Burger Odendaal 12. Marthinus Johannes Pelser 13. Manuel Joherne Rass 14. Carlu Johann Sadie 15. Sibusiso Wiseman Sangweni 16. Ruben Schoeman 17. Sithembisu Sithole 18. Dillon Smit 19. Hans Rudolf Straeuli 20. Emmanuel Tshituka 21. Vincent Tshituka 22. Jamba Isaac Ulengo 23. Morne van den Berg 24. EW Viljoen 25. Gerrit Jacobus Visagie 26. Frederik Johannes Zeilinga |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 2:42pm
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Ek wonder regtig of die gaan voortgaan aangesien Gauteng nou "off limits" is? ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 3:29pm
| Volgens die nuwe regulasies mag dit steeds voortgaan, dink al wat dit gaan stop is covid self (klomp wat positief toets) of as die B&I Lions nie wil jol nie.. |
Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 3:54pm
| Lions by 50 |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 28-Jun-2021 at 4:32pm
| Waar is Stean and Courtnall? |
Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 29-Jun-2021 at 9:19am
| What is going on with Roelof Smit?? |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 11:27am
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https://www.lionsrugby.com/2021/07/01/hogg-to-captain-lions-rugby-in-tour-opener?utm_source=emailmarketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=team_announcement_v_emirates_lions&utm_content=2021-07-01%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.lionsrugby.com/2021/07/01/hogg-to-captain-lions-rugby-in-tour-opener?utm_source=emailmarketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=team_announcement_v_emirates_lions&utm_content=2021-07-01
Stuart Hogg (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) will captain The British & Irish Lions in the opening match of the 2021 Castle Lager Lions Series when the tourists take on the Lions this Saturday (kick-off 5pm BST, live on Sky Sports). The Scottish full back will lead an all-new starting XV to the one that defeated Japan 28-10 in Edinburgh last weekend to win The Vodafone Lions 1888 Cup, save for Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) who retains his place on the left wing. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales), Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland), Hamish Watson (Edinburgh, Scotland) and Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs, England) are all set to make their Lions debuts at Emirates Airline Park in Johannesburg, in the first of eight Tour games to be shown live and exclusively on Sky Sports (Main Event and Action from 4pm BST). Replacements Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England), Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland), Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) and Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) are also in line to make their first appearances in the famous red jersey should they join the fray on Saturday. “It’s good to have arrived in Johannesburg and get the Tour underway,” said Lions Head coach, Warren Gatland. “We had a pleasing win last week up in Edinburgh, but there’s still plenty we need to get right on Saturday. “I’ve been encouraged by the way the boys have trained this week. I feel it’s gone up a level from where we were in Jersey and we’re starting to see a better understanding of some of our tactics. “There’s some new player combinations for us to have a look at this Saturday – which is good information for us as the Test Series approaches. “My congratulations to all those playing their first game as a Lion, and also to Hoggy too – who I am sure will lead the side by example.” LIONS v THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS 15, Stuart Hogg – captain (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) #783 14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales) 13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) 12. Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780 11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836 10. Finn Russell (Racing 92, Scotland) #835 9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843 1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842 2. Jamie George (Saracens, England) #819 3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814 4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825 5. Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs, England) 6. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826 7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) 8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779 Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) 17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) – Prop #787 18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) 19. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808 20. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) 21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) 22. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837 23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822 Saturday 3 July 2021 Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg Kick-off: 5pm (BST) |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 11:28am
| Kick-off: 5pm (BST) - So die afskop is 6 uur ons tyd |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 11:36am
| Hierdie is n moerse sterk B&I Lions span. Ons Leeus gaan moet lelik bontstaan. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 11:40am
| Ons span word 5 uur aangekondig |
Posted By: Scrubba
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 3:27pm
| Truthfully im not expecting is to win this one... but it will be good to keep them to say 10 points or so... one never knows what can happen. COME ON LIONS! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 3:40pm
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Scrubba wrote:Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 5:37pm
| Ons span opgedateer in die eerste pos, baie dieselfde span as wat in die laaste 2 curriebeker wedstryde gespeel het |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 6:41pm
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Geen Jaco Kriel of MJ Pelser? Hier kom n lang middag...
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 6:55pm
| Voel jammer vir van die ouens wat nie kans gaan kry nie, hoop maar ons daag op! As ek hulle span check beter ons op daag.. wil ons verneder lyk dit my |
Posted By: Scrubba
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 7:19pm
Cant beleive Jaco Kriel is not included... unless he still has a niggle... he has had such a distinguished careeer, i feel so bad for him not having the honour of playing against these guys.... its once in lifetime really... unless you are M or F Steyn 
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 7:44pm
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Do we not have anyone better than EW Viljoen and PJ Botha??? Would've loved to see Jaco and MJ in the team, suppose the numbers played a part there. With there only being 8 of the 23 we are well below target as well.
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2021 at 7:54pm
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When I compare the sides , It feels like David vs Goliath is an wouldn’t be sufficient. Our team looks very light And they are in for a tough time. I’d be “happy” if we don’t lose by 50
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 02-Jul-2021 at 9:44am
| What we have going for us, is the underdog tag as well as facing a team with new combinations at home, so hopefully we can put up a respectable show. Upfront, the only real players I rate is Schoeman, Tshituka, with Sithole and Visagie to hopefully make a impact. Amongst the backs, Dillen Smith and Burger Odendaal are solid players if they can get quality front foot ball, but other than perhaps Maxwane, and maybe Krappie van der Berg, there is very little to trouble the defense. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 02-Jul-2021 at 9:53am
| As ons met daai span kon speel wat in die 3 super rugby finale gespeel het, sou dit 'n goeie wedstryd gewees het, maar ek dink hulle gaan ons met ten minste 20 punte klop |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 02-Jul-2021 at 12:20pm
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1410901530845253635%20" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/i/status/1410901530845253635
Video van Cash oor die spankeuses
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 6:33pm
| my stream het ophou werk met die telling op 14-0 vir die besoekers en ons op hulle doellyn |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 6:49pm
| Myne ook transvaal ek sien dit is 21-7 ons lyk nie te sleg nie |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 6:51pm
| Het darem weer begin werk betyds vir my op die 3rde drie van die besoekers en ons drie te sien. Rustyd 21-7 vir die besoekers |
Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 7:53pm
| ek het gedink die altitude gaan hul van op die einde, ek was duidelik baie verkeerd |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 8:02pm
| Darem n beter scoreline as 2009.. |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 03-Jul-2021 at 8:25pm
| Daar was tye in die eerste helfde waar die jong pak voorspelers hul man goed gestaan het. Daar was ongelukkig (met twee of drie uitsonderings) min variasies agterlangs om op die B&IL se verdediging te veel te pla. |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 8:11am
Ons span is lankal nie meer fiks genoeg om die krane oop te draai na 60 nie... Inteendeel... Die ander spanne teken meer punte op die park as ons aan die laaste 20. ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 8:24am
| Post match conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkE_b6mEIdo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkE_b6mEIdo |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 8:24am
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Ja nee kyk hierdie ouens is manne van internationale gehalte .... fisies sterker, vinniger en fikser ... breuk tekkels soos niks. Ouens soos EW Viljoen, Ulengo, Rass en nog n paar ander bly maar net goeie klub spelers. As ons weer n krag wil word in rugby sal ons vd average spelers moet ontslae raak Franke Horn en Schoeman het goed vertoon , ons kort heelwat game breaker
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 8:33am
| Mens wil nie eintlik te persoonlik teenoor die spelers raak nie, maar een ou wat my elke wedstryd teleurstel is Dan Kriel, dis die een blaps na die ander. Ek het regtig beter van hom verwag, en hy kom net nie reg nie. |
Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 6:38pm
| EW was nie te badnnie |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 04-Jul-2021 at 7:46pm
Ek is glad nie 'n fan van hom of van Jesse nie ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 05-Jul-2021 at 9:59am
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I said before the game I’d be happy if we lose by less than 50. We managed to do that, if you look at the 2009 side be what we have now. Then the result was probably “good”. |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 05-Jul-2021 at 1:12pm
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I am going to be honest, I feel the scoreline flattered them somewhat and we were not that bad. Remember, this was one hell of a strong team, they could analyze us based om many of our previous performances, while we simply had the 1 performance to analyze of theirs - the 1 match vs Japan, where only Josh Adams (a winger) played. That is not much to go on. I absolutely agree with Cash when he mentioned this also afterwards and that this 1 additional match will be crucial for the fellow SA teams in terms of prep for the B&I Lions games. Then this must also be one of the youngest ever teams to have played against the B&I Lions and we held out own for much of the game. Our scrums were also impressive and we should have been rewarded a couple of times for their props dropping their binds and either having their hands or elbows on the floor. Then AJ Jacobs is probably one of the worst refs I have ever seen. He clearly didnt want to upset the apple cart here. He should have given at least a yellow for one of the neck rolls that was sent to the TMO (mainly for the one on Krappies, which was more of a spear tackle of sorts). Also at the breakdowns they got away with murder in my opinion (coming from the side, holding on and not rolling away fast enough). Then Hamish Watson should also have been penalized for his man-handling of Dillon Smit off the ball in the first half. I also felt they were often offside or very close to it when on defense. Some of our players really impressed me as well - mainly our loose forwards. Sangweni should have scored 1 (damn cramp - our fitness is definitely lacking), Francke Horn is a gem for the future and then it is still shocking to me that Vincent Tshituka wasn't called up to the Boks' extended team. The only area where we were shocking as normal, is with the lineouts, where PJ Botha clearly doesn't belong at this level in terms of his line-out throwing. I am probably very biased, but there was a lot of promising things I saw during the game. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 05-Jul-2021 at 1:14pm
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Remember, even the Bulls were also shocked (dare I say humiliated) the 1st time in a long time they played against an International team in the Rainbow cup final and that team was much weaker than this B&I team and the Bulls could at least do some analyses of Benetton beforehand, which we could not do for this opposition. So all-in-all, I am not too dejected. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 05-Jul-2021 at 5:07pm
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People reacted very surprised that we took such a “beating”..to be honest these type of games everybody wants to be nice including the refs.. We never really got quick ball and we always gave them some, trying to play positive rugby, while we could see how negative they are every tackle (not releasing until the ref tells them to), ruck and maul. Their rush defence never being offside once or their chasers never being in front of the kicker, I would have liked to see on some replays. We never looked like any threat on attack and our defence was pathetic, not sure why we rush out of position every time. |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 4:08pm
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Selfs Brendan Venter meen dat die B&I Lions nie dominant teen ons was nie: (https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/venter-lions-intensity-1/) In a column for https://www.news24.com/sport/columnists/brendanventer/brendan-venter-pendulum-has-swung-springboks-way-after-flat-british-lions-outing-20210707" rel="nofollow - Sport24 , Venter argues that despite the comfortable scoreline, the Lions did not boss the contest against their Johannesburg namesakes. “They are a fantastic side and they won by a good margin [56-14], but when you look at the whole game, the Lions lacked what the Boks had. “They didn’t dominate the set piece against a very young team. You would have expected them to dominate the scrums, lineouts and collisions, but they didn’t. “Instead, they scored tries because they’re good and they have talented individuals and defending the way they scored tries – amongst the backs – is the Springboks’ biggest strength.” ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 4:10pm
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Ek hou ook daarvan dat hy highlight dat ons so 'n baie jong span is. Ek sal regtig nie verbaas wees nie as dit die jongste span ooit was wat teen die B&I Lions gespeel het. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 5:58pm
Met alle respek... Ek is nou al bietjie gatvol om die laaste 4 jaar te hoor "ons het 'n jong span"... Begin my al hoe meer herhinder aan die Loffie Eloff "Ons bou" dae.... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 8:47pm
| Ek moet se as ek die sharks se eerste helfte so kyk ek weet hulle het manne by die springbokke maar ons het die leeus darem goeie mededinging gegee die sharks ploeter rond ek dink hier kom n groot score |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 10:04pm
By all means, ek hou ook nie daarvan nie, but it is what it is. Ons het nie die geld van die Bulle en Sharks om klomp spelers te koop nie en ons moet somewhere spelers vandaan kry. Ons kontraktering is nie te sleg in my opinie nie - Jannie en Willem doen goed en deel baie met die ander ouens, terwyl ons dringend 'n losskakel nodig gehad het en dit is hoekom ons 'n ervare ou soos Zeilinga ingekry het wat ons nie 'n arm en been kos nie om die gap te vul (onthou ons was selfs sonder Hendrickse vir amper 2 maande terwyl hy by die o/20's was). Dit is nie perfek nie, want spelers soos Dan Kriel en EW Viljoen hoort nie op hierdie vlak, om 'n paar voorbeelde te noem, maar geen span kry kontraktering perfek nie. Selfs Gio Aplon was maar 'n duur fout vir die Bulle wat heeltyd beseer is. Dan kyk mens na Dayimani by die WeePee wat heeltyd by ons beseer was (dieselfde speler waaroor ons gekla het ook dat hy maar lyf wegsteek in die harde fasette van die game ook) en dadelik is hy weer beseer by die WeePee. Kyk ook na Orie wat ons darem laat gaan het en die WeePee vir some reason opgegaps het, ek voel dit is 'n goeie move, al dink die WP hulle score omdate SARU van sy salaris betaal - hy is 'n walking penalty en sy hande en passing is pateties. Combrinck is verby sy prime asook Mapoe en dit sou agteruit gaan wees om hulle weer te teken, asook 'n gamble. Hopelik bewys hulle my verkeerd, want ek hou van hulle en hulle herhinner my aan die "goeie ou dae". So ons het wat ons het en dit is 'n jong span. Help nie ons lewe in die verlede en wens Ackerman het nie gewaai nie. What happened happened en ons moet maar aanbeweeg al is dit moeilik.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 07-Jul-2021 at 10:51pm
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 5:24am
| ek stem ook 100% saam |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 5:26am
| Ek dink ons almal onderskat ook die geldknyp wat Covid die laaste 2 jaar in rugby veroorsaak het, geen kaartjieverkope, geen losie inkomste. Die winkel by die park staan leeg, so dit het waarskynlik ook onder gegaan |
Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 10:03am
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Stem ook 100% saam. Strauli en Allers doen die beste wat hulle kan by Lions kom ons ondersteun hulle liewers! ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 10:38am
Dit geld sekerlik vir die ander unies ook?
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 10:59am
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:20am
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Jip, volgens hoe ek dit verstaan is Altman skatryk (miljoenêr), teenoor Johann Rupert en Patrice Motsepe beide biljoenêrs (so elk een is ryker as Altman en daar is 2 van hulle). Dan het die Sharks die Amerikaans maatskappy wat ook biljoene het teenoor ons miljoene (dollars teenoor ons SA sente). So dit is waar die verskil in kom. En dan soos Transvaal ook genoem het, ons het vir die laaste jaar seker minimaal van 'n inkomste ingekry, so waar die ander unies groot geld betaal vir spelers die laaste 2jaar wat in kompetisies speel wat amper nie saak maak nie en soos in WeePee se geval amper hul bankrotskap veroorsaak, is ons ten minste ietwat slim met die geld wat ons het. Kyk, ek sal enige dag Altman bo die ander klomp vat wat ek bo genoem het, net oor sy passie en liefde vir die Leeus, maar ons moet redelik wees hier en kan nie verwag dat hy elke rand wat hy het in die Leeus in pomp net om te kompeteer met Rupert en Motsepe nie. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:23am
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Patrice Motsepe
Johann Rupert
So daar sit mens reeds met meer as R100 biljoen.... en hierdie was volgens 2019 info, so dit is seker redelik om aan te neem dat dit nou al baie meer is...
------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:26am
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My punt bly staan, waarom kry die ander unies dit reg om meer investment te kry as ons? WP is al jare lank op die punt van bankrotskap, maar tog probeer hulle ouens soos Marx teken. En tot onlangs het hulle 'n groot groep bokke op hul boeke gehad. Ja ek weet SARU help betaal, maar waarom kan ons dan nie sulke bokke teken as SARU help betaal nie?
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:28am
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Ek sal eerder nie die Springbokke dan teken as dit die unie weer op die punt van bankrotskap sit nie. Nee dankie. Go WeePee, julle kan dit maar doen, maar ek is bly die Leeus vat nie sulke gambles en is redelik slim met ons geld. Hulle kan dan maar Marx koop, hopelik sluit hulle dan hul deure oor 'n paar jaar. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:30am
Ons is ook nie baie "slim" met ons geld as ons meerderheid van ons wedstryde verloor, en altyd "bou" of se dis ok dat ons verloor want ons het 'n "jong" span nie.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:32am
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https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-lions-rugby" rel="nofollow - https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-lions-rugby https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-western-province-rugby-union" rel="nofollow - https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-western-province-rugby-union https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-blue-bulls" rel="nofollow - https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner-blue-bulls https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner" rel="nofollow - https://www.cashnsport.com/post/know-your-owner (hierdie ene is die Sharks) ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 11:37am
Okay, ek en jy het baie verskillende opinies hier en dit is okay, maar ek gee nie so erg om om te verloor in kompetisies wat nie saak maak nie. En ons het ook nie so sleg vertoon in die CC in die begin van die jaar op 'n kol nie. My punt is, ons het 'n budget en ek glo ons is die enigste span wat binne daardie budget lewe op die oomblik. Dit gaan soms nie oor wen of verloor nie, maar oor survive. Ek kan immers 'n Ferrari koop (ek wens) en kompeteer hier in street races teen Golfies (ek bly immers in die Oosrand) en soos 'n legend lyk, maar teen die einde van die jaar moet ek 'n nier verkoop net sodat ek nie op die straat opeindig nie. Kyk na wat die Bulle doen deur om die regulasies te kom om spelers op die klubs se boeke te sit soos beweer word, dit is nie reg nie en ek is bly die Leeus verkoop nie hul siel op hierdie maniere nie. Terwyl Weepee letterlik doen wat ek bo genoem het en probeer Ferrari's koop en hulself op bankrotskap sit, en ek kan regtig nie onthou dat selfs met hierdie gambles dit enigsins vir die Weepee afbetaal nie. Hulle is immers vrot in my opinie. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 12:07pm
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Ja nee Tuna, ons opinies verskil definitief, want vir my gaan rugby beslis oor wen of verloor! Niemand gaan se ja daai jaar wat ons onder Dick nie een super rugby kon wen het ons darem mooi hardloop rugby gespeel of so iets nie. As al die ander spanne Ferrari's het kan ons nie 'n klomp ou VW Beetles gaan koop en dink ons gaan kompeterend bly nie. Ek verstaan tye is moeilik, maar dit is moeilik vir al die spanne, nie net ons nie. Ek wil net he die unie moet genoeg ambisie he om weer die beste span in SA te word.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 12:20pm
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Ek gaan met jou bietjie saamstem hier, dit voel vir my ons is bietjie lacking in die ambisie departement en voel ons kan kyk na ervare afrigters met 'n goeie track record al is dit net om vir Cash hulle bietjie bystand te gee. Ek dink dit sal alreeds vir ons 'n goeie begin punt wees. Maar soms lei ambisie ook tot mens se ondergang as mens "overreach", en daarvoor is ek bang en dit is wat ek voel die Bulle (deur die reels te probeer kul met die klub storie) en die Weepee (bankrotskap) doen. As ons ook 'n equity partner kan kry wat 'n paar biljoene het en nie vir Altman in die rug steek en hom steeds betrokke hou in 'n groot mate, sal ek ook happy wees en my opinie sal dan ook bietjie verander. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 12:20pm
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Jy kan al die geld in die wêreld hê, jy sal steeds nie sukses behaal met ons huidge afrigtingspan nie. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 12:46pm
| Ek het iewers lank terug gehoor Altman is so R2 biljoen sterk. Dis 10% van die bulle se 2 beleggers |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 12:49pm
| En die geld wat hy aan die Leeus voorgeskiet het, neem ek aan was eintlik meer 'n lening, en uiteindelik kon die Leeus dit waarskynlik nie terug betaal nie, toe maak hulle maar 'n plan waar dit omgesit word in aandeelhouding. Ek spekuleer maar dis waarskynlik wat gebeur het. En dit beteken daarna was daar seker nie groot somme geld wat van sy kant af na die Leeus vloei nie |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 1:25pm
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Die volgende is 'n uittreksel uit die link wat ek bo gepos het: The modern day Lions are effectively owned and controlled by Altmann Jacobus Allers. He owns 74.9% of the union through his company Foxbell Investments which forms part of the Glasfit group of companies which of he is also the majority shareholder. The Golden Lions Rugby Union has the other 25.1% ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 1:25pm
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Ek het nie geweet sy aandeel was so groot nie.... ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 2:21pm
Soos ek na dinge kyk gaan dit alles oor 'n span wat wen. As jou span aanhou wen lok jy meer supporters en investors. Supporters koop merchandise en maak jou stadion vol. Investors bele geld in 'n wenspan, nie 'n sukkelende span met lee stadions nie. Daarom dink ek die bulls is op die regte pad. Ja ek weti of alles above board is met hul signings nie, maar blerrie hel hul is besig om n baie goeie groep spelers te bou! Plus hul sit met 'n world cup winning coach. As ons nie iewers n verandering aanbring en weer (gereeld) begin wen nie, gaan ons altyd bottom feeders bly.
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 3:19pm
Sien nou op n ander site een ou reken WW is oppad na Sharks as deel van hulle afrigtingspan. Hoop rerig nie WW staan vir Warren Whiteley nie 
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 3:40pm
Hopelik is daar 'n Willem Wessels iewers by die leeus!?
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 08-Jul-2021 at 5:02pm
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2021 at 7:36am
Wat is sy rol presies? Is mos lynstane en nog iets?
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2021 at 12:06pm
| It will be a massive slap in the face to the Lions if WW abandons us after all we've done for him. |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2021 at 3:25pm
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While I am a massive fan of WW as a player and person, I feel he is too inexperienced to be coaching at this level. His focus was on the lineouts and also on analysis (I believe), and it just happens to turn out that the lineouts is our main weakness currently. I don't think WW must bear the full brunt of it as PJ Botha's throwing is pathetic, however WW should have somehow done something to let PJ improve by now or have made the call for him to be dropped. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2021 at 5:57pm
| Think WW is part of the forwards coaching setup with Philip Lemmer and Julian Redelinghuys. These 3 have generally done a good job in my opinion, considering the use of players that have just come out of junior ranks as well as the high turnover of experience. No, our main coaching issues remain poor defensive and skills coaching, as well as generally poor contracting by senior union officials. |
Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2021 at 11:02pm
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 10-Jul-2021 at 11:44am
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Well I think after 2 years, one can. If I am a manager of a certain aspect of a team in the corporate world and after 2 years we keep losing clients because of one of the members of my team, I am just as accountable as manager for the poor performance as what that member of the team is responsible there for. And then we also need to mention here that Campher is not much better than Botha and even Visagie's lineouts haven't always been great either. I hope Transvaal can correct me here, but it is from the many interviews I have seen with him that I understood he is in charge of the lineouts and analysis (yes part of the forwards coaching staff, but these areas being his focus). And emiel1, I am sorry, but few teams on Earth will win many games when they have as dodgy lineout as we have. It is one of the cornerstones of the game (especially in RSA) and by us it is almost certain that we will somehow either botch the lineout (lose the ball or knock on) or not have a good platform for attack or mauling from it when we even succeed at it.
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 10-Jul-2021 at 10:22pm
| Tuna, dink ons het verskillende opinies en perspektiewe. Ek kan verkeerd wees, maar volgens my was ons die afgelope seisoen of twee, redelik mededingend voorlangs, selfs teen sterbelaaide spanne soos die Bulle. Dit beteken beslis nie dat ons voorlangs op standaard is om internasionale aan te vat nie. Al wat ek se is dat ons eerstens aandag aan ons grootste tekortkomings moet gee. Ons is konstant baie een dimensioneeli op aanval, selfs wanneer ons meerderheid besit het, ons verdediging is hopeloos, en ons is takties onbeholpe. |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 7:57am
Ek dink nie ons opinies is anders nie, ek dink ons praat oor twee verskillende dinge. Die topic hier die laaste paar posts was oor WW wat moontlik waai. Toe noem ek dat al hou ek baie van hom as speler en mens, dat ek voel sy fokus punte by die Leeus doen ons nie baie goed in nie, naamliks die lynstane. Ja, terwyl ons voorpak goed doen, is ons lynstane met enige hakker pateties om dit mooi te stel. So wat jy sê mag waar wees, maar op die topic van WW wat moontlik Sharks toe gaan, voel ek dit sal nie n verlies wees nie. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 8:02am
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Dit is nie dat ek hom wil wegjaag nie, maar as hy wil gaan, laat hy gaan, dit is nie asof hy al n wereldklas afrigter is nie en ek voel ons het amper te veel cooks in die kitchen in terme van afrigters. Ja ons het baie ander probleme ook, en ek stry nie daarmee nie. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 9:30am
| Stem saam. |
Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 9:37am
| Ek sien Rapport noem dat Nathan Mcbeth Glascow Warriors toe skuif. Sti Sithole is darem n goeie stut wat sal kan oorvat... |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 10:28am
| Sti is eintlik die nommer 1 loskop by ons |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2021 at 9:01pm
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2021 at 8:51am
| Sjoe, twee van ons top drie loskoppe weg in een jaar. Enige jong loskoppe wat langtermyn kan inval later die jaar? |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2021 at 1:05pm
Wat het van Leo Kruger geword?
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