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    Posted: 16-Mar-2023 at 10:35pm
Originally posted by Simba Simba wrote:

Jammer almal. Ekt dit probeer copy & paste van RUGBY365 af.


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Wel, wat meer kan ons verwag van die ou wat in charge was van "Kamp Staaldraad"!?

Swys het destyds ook paar dinge laat glip en ek is baie seker Straeuli is agter sy stress verwante issues van destyds gewees. Hy is toxic vir die Leeus en moet weg. Dit is duidelik vir pretty much almal, behalwe die boardroom van die Leeus....
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Jammer almal. Ekt dit probeer copy & paste van RUGBY365 af.
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MUTINY IN THE DEN

BOARDROOM UPDATE: The Lions’ boardroom saga has taken an intriguing twist, with a suggestion that the coaching staff, en masse, approach company Chief Executive Officer Rudolf Straeuli with their grievances.

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This development follows the expose by @rugby365com last month of a major disconnect between players and upper management.

The Lions’ back-to-back United Rugby Championship victories – beating Glasgow Warriors (35-24) and the Bulls (29-25) – suggested the Lions Rugby Company’s internal drama had been put to bed.

However, it merely papered over the cracks and last weekend’s humbling 28-44 loss to Western Province at Ellis Park in the opening round of the Currie Cup reopened the already festering wounds in the camp.

It resulted in a frank coaches meeting – including senior coaches – in which the possibility of a confrontation with the CEO was raised.

@rugby365com obtained an audio recording of the coaches’ meeting in which a number of issues were raised.

As was the theme of our initial expose, the bulk of the indignation was directed at the CEO, Straeuli, and Tracy van Ginkel, the manager of Contracts and Operations at the Lions Rugby Company.

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While the meeting suggests there was finally a ‘united front’ in their ranks, the possibility of a ‘divide and conquer’ approach by Straeuli – by offering individual coaches ‘sweeteners’ – was also raised.

“We have to look each other in the eye, and say: ‘You can’t throw me to the wolves’,” one very concerned coach said.

Another added: “We need to know that every single guy is safe. Then we can do it.”

Another issue raised in the coaches’ meeting was the anger and internal ranting, which included ‘cussing’ in a fractionated panel at odds with each other.

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The meeting resolved that a clear list of grievances and solutions to the problems must be presented to Straeuli.

Amongst their biggest grouses is Straeuli’s ongoing “interference” and involvement in training schedules, game plans and selection.

The CEO’s demeanour has not just created an extremely tense atmosphere in the Lions’ inner sanctum, but there is little to no cohesion between junior and senior coaches.

There is also a total lack of respect for senior management.

Apart from the mistrust of Straeuli, there is also a growing malcontent towards Van Ginkel in the coaching and players’ ranks.

Renewed calls for her removal as manager of Contracts and Operations have gone out, with more claims of ‘inappropriate’ behaviour.

Phrases such as “incompetent, rude, unapproachable” is aired when speaking about Van Ginkel.

Questions about her behaviour around the dressing rooms have also been aired more vigorously.

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Congrats to the following 7 players who made their Currie Cup debut for the Lions on the weekend:

Ruan Delport
Pieter Jansen van Vuren
Darrien-Lane Landsberg
Morgan Naude
Raynard Roets
Ruan Smith
Michael van Vuuren
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Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Ek se al n hele paar jaar dat die Leeus vir Jimmy Stonehouse moet koop, daar is nie n manner dat hy meer held as Cash gaan kos nie. So maak vir hom n aanbod en gee vir hom alle mag om to maak soos hy wil in terme van game plan, speelers, ens.


Lol, daardie is die probleem. Die Leeus soek n puppet wat hulle kan control. Wat jy van praat sal nooit werk by die Leeus nie.

Lees tussen die lyne hoekom Swys weg is destyds en hoekom hy so baie stres issues gehad het toe hy die hoofafrigter was. Toe was daar al stories dat Rudolf inmeng by spankeuses, ens.


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Ek se al n hele paar jaar dat die Leeus vir Jimmy Stonehouse moet koop, daar is nie n manner dat hy meer held as Cash gaan kos nie. So maak vir hom n aanbod en gee vir hom alle mag om to maak soos hy wil in terme van game plan, speelers, ens.

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Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Eks n gelukkige WP / Stormers  ondersteuner. Dobson is n uitstekende afrigter. Nuwe spelers kom in en speel net so goed soos die vorige speler. 

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Eks n gelukkige WP / Stormers  ondersteuner. Dobson is n uitstekende afrigter. Nuwe spelers kom in en speel net so goed soos die vorige speler. 
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Ek stem saam Tuna hier. Ok die bulle is nie great op die oomblik nie, maar vir die Pumas om hul so ver te wen wys net wat 'n goeie coach kan vermag met 'n avg groep spelers. Mens kannie aanhou verskoning maak vir Cash en se ja maar hy het nie die spelers nie. Hy het, dit is sy werk om die beste uit elkeen van hulle te kry
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Maar ek wil ook net sê, baie mense kla van ons swak diepte (ek onder andere ook) veral in sekere posisies. Dan wil ons ook altyd kla van ons het te min geld om die spelers te lok....

Hoe is dit dan dat die Pumas met klomp no-names wat seker baie min salaris trek die Bulle op Loftus klop met meer as 60 punte?

Is dit dan regtig dat ons 'n diepte issue het, of dalk eerder ons coaching wat fail op alle vlakke en veral vir die jonger ouens?

Selfs ons onlangse URC wenne, sal ek eerder net sê was te danke aan paar moments of brilliance van individue, eerder as coaching successes.

Onthou in die CC van einde 2021 het ons heel laaste geeindig teen spanne soos die Pumas, ens en dit was voor die URC met ons heel beste span (ek praat nie van 2022 se CC nie, waar ons ook heel laaste geeindig het, maar daar word dit blameer op ons B-span). Hoe is ons performances dan related aan geld of diepte? Pumas het ons daar tuis en weg geklop met pakslae tellings.
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Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Originally posted by AK  AK  wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Verstaan dis net n paar wedstryde wat clash.  Sien die Bulle speel byna hul vol urc span. Op die oomblik backfire dit op hulle. 
Die bulle het moeilikheid...

Ek glo dis nou hier waar die Jake White droom eindig.... Sy spanne bly nooit  suksesvol nie of hy waai in die eerste twee jaar.....

Tuna het my laas uitgewys toe ek ook so stelling gemaak het, hy bly wel langer as net die 2 jaar, maar dit is of hy nooit weer dieselfde hoogtes as die eerste 1-2 jaar bereik nie, dus voel dit of hy "waai" :)


Jy mag dalk 'n punt daar beet hê, sy spanne is gewoonlik net suksesvol in die eerste twee jaar, nooit so aan dit gedink nie.

Selfs by die Bokke was hulle baie swak in sy derde jaar (2006 - hy was immers baie naby aan gefire word op die jaareind toer) en dalk was die insluiting van Eddie Jones regtig dan die reignition to the system in 2007 wat gehelp het om sy trend te verander en dat ons die WB wen.
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Ek wens iemand wil die guts hê om Jimmy n kans te gee.. miskien het die Bulle hom reeds iets geoffer gister.. elke jaar bou hy weer van voor af en die ouens speel weer hul harte uit. Vir n span wat min rugby gespeel het, het hulle omtrent nie n voet verkeerd gesit nie en was vlymskerp op enige geleentheid wat vir hulle gegee was.
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Originally posted by AK  AK  wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Verstaan dis net n paar wedstryde wat clash.  Sien die Bulle speel byna hul vol urc span. Op die oomblik backfire dit op hulle. 
Die bulle het moeilikheid...

Ek glo dis nou hier waar die Jake White droom eindig.... Sy spanne bly nooit  suksesvol nie of hy waai in die eerste twee jaar.....

Tuna het my laas uitgewys toe ek ook so stelling gemaak het, hy bly wel langer as net die 2 jaar, maar dit is of hy nooit weer dieselfde hoogtes as die eerste 1-2 jaar bereik nie, dus voel dit of hy "waai" :)
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Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Verstaan dis net n paar wedstryde wat clash.  Sien die Bulle speel byna hul vol urc span. Op die oomblik backfire dit op hulle. 
Die bulle het moeilikheid...

Ek glo dis nou hier waar die Jake White droom eindig.... Sy spanne bly nooit  suksesvol nie of hy waai in die eerste twee jaar.....
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Stem Valie hulle speel nie soos n span wat vir mekaar speel nie ek weet nie hoe hulle dit gaan verander nie 
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Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Verstaan dis net n paar wedstryde wat clash.  Sien die Bulle speel byna hul vol urc span. Op die oomblik backfire dit op hulle. 
Die bulle het moeilikheid...
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Die pumas speel vir my baie dieselfde soos die leeus gespeel het onder Ackers
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Verstaan dis net n paar wedstryde wat clash.  Sien die Bulle speel byna hul vol urc span. Op die oomblik backfire dit op hulle. 
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He won't be able to coach the Currie Cup team full time, the matches are going to clash with the URC soon
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Dobson is a class coach. WP a much better coached team playing to a plan.
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Currie Cup - Lions coach Mziwakhe Nkosi after loss to WP on 11 March 2023
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Currie Cup - Lions captain Travis Gordan after loss to WP on 11 March 2023
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Currie Cup - WP coach John Dobson and Juan de Jongh after win over Lions on 11 March 2023
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