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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Niela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Feb-2020 at 9:54am
Originally posted by L13 L13 wrote:

I 100% agree that effort outweighs talent. Ackermann and Swys proved that when they took "rejects" from the bulls and sharks and made us Super Rugby finalists.

My point with the youngsters I mentioned was more about planning and road-mapping. You see it in New Zealand all the time - talented youngster in year 1 is in the squad, learning the ropes with a few games off the bench, year 2 - he's on the bench and starting a few games, year 3 - he's rotating with the starter and year 4 he is the starter and a new youngster joins the system. That way the team is moving the "old" player on and plan correctly. Youngsters also understand where they are and feel like they are part of the plan. 

In SA we seem to be desperate to hang on to guys to the point where we are still negotiating with guys for next season long after the current season ended.

Last year for example - we all knew Mapoe was going (actually as much as I really like him - it looked like a season too many at times last season), but how many games did his replacement start? Did we even know who would be our outside center this season? We knew Marx would be on sabbatical yet how many games did Jansen start?

Planning is critical , but its a different issue. Attitude vs Ability is the issue here. I will always pick attitude first . If players both have a good attitude, only then I will look at ability and pick that guy.

Sure , circumstances , pr lack of game time could create attitude issues, but that is were a player is tested and needs to past that character test . It happens to all of us in work as well, you are tested, but some fail and others stand up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote emiel1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Feb-2020 at 11:05am
Originally posted by L13 L13 wrote:

I 100% agree that effort outweighs talent. Ackermann and Swys proved that when they took "rejects" from the bulls and sharks and made us Super Rugby finalists.

My point with the youngsters I mentioned was more about planning and road-mapping. You see it in New Zealand all the time - talented youngster in year 1 is in the squad, learning the ropes with a few games off the bench, year 2 - he's on the bench and starting a few games, year 3 - he's rotating with the starter and year 4 he is the starter and a new youngster joins the system. That way the team is moving the "old" player on and plan correctly. Youngsters also understand where they are and feel like they are part of the plan. 

In SA we seem to be desperate to hang on to guys to the point where we are still negotiating with guys for next season long after the current season ended.

Last year for example - we all knew Mapoe was going (actually as much as I really like him - it looked like a season too many at times last season), but how many games did his replacement start? Did we even know who would be our outside center this season? We knew Marx would be on sabbatical yet how many games did Jansen start?

Think you touch on quite a few important points here. South African administrators have quite a few challenges that New Zealand administrators don't ( i.e. , a falling Rand that is bordering on banana currency status; political interference etc). But at the end of the day these are no excuses, they are in fact reasons for management to be pro active instead of re-active. Your point of having youngsters groomed alongside established veterans in a relatively stable environment instead of contracting rejects and injury prone old timers in their mid 30's on short notice to assist these youngsters is valid.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote monster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Feb-2020 at 11:45am
Hy is n baie talentvolle speler .... ek hoop hulle sort die ding uit (as daar ooit n issue is) ek glo steeds hy gaan n ster word met die regte houding en harde werk ... hy moet beslis aan sy verdediging werk maar kom ons hoop hu word daai ster in n leeu trui.  Hoop nie hy word n Finn Russel nie
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leeu1975 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2020 at 3:16pm
Ek lees op Rugby365 Simelane is ook in WP se visier!
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Originally posted by Leeu1975 Leeu1975 wrote:

Ek lees op Rugby365 Simelane is ook in WP se visier!

Het daai ook gesien ja. Kans is seker groot dat hy ook binnekort gaan waai. Hy het nognie baie vir ons begin nie so is seker nie 'n te groot verlies nie, maar hy het potensiaal om 'n baie goeie speler te word. Dis een ding om sterre wat al jare lank vir jou speel te verloor, maar wane jou jong talent ook waai is da probleme..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Niela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-May-2020 at 9:21am
Die stormers het Gelant ook gekoop sien ek.




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