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Management Team for the Xerox Golden Lions is as follows:

 

Head Coach:                                Ivan van Rooyen

Forwards:                                    Philip Lemmer

Breakdown and Defence:             Sean Erasmus

Attack:                                         Neil de Bruin

Scrum Consultant:                       Julian Redelinghuys

Strength and Conditioning:           Rupert Oberholster

Manager:                                     Mustapha Boomgaard

Team Physician:                          Dr Rob Collins

Physiotherapist:                           Preven Appalsamy

Massage Therapist:                      Ram Mpila & Carol Dickson

Kit:                                               Johane Singwane

 

Management Team for the Xerox Golden Lions Under 21 team is as follows:

 

Head Coach:                                Joey Mongalo

Forwards:                                    Wessel Roux

Attack:                                         Mziwakhe Nkosi

Strength and Conditioning:           Stefan van Deventer

Manager:                                     MJ Rabodiba

Team Physician:                          Dr Anri van Tonder

Physiotherapist:                           Pam Watts

Kit:                                              Bestall Mondo

 

We bid farewell to the following players:

Ruan Combrinck

Robbie Coetzee

Sylvian Mahuza

Nic Groom

Danie Mienie

Robert Kruger

Harold Vorster

Lionel Mapoe

Stephan Lewies

Franco Naude
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one is nou kort op centers ook, dis n groot problem.
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I am sad to see Mahuza go. Vorster and Mapoe are also huge losses.
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Sjoe n paar Groot loses hier..veral Vorster,Mapoe en Combrinck.....
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Gin wonder ons onder 21 weer verloor die naweek met Joey...hy moet iets teen die leeus he.......
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Originally posted by LeeuBrul LeeuBrul wrote:

Gin wonder ons onder 21 weer verloor die naweek met Joey...hy moet iets teen die leeus he.......

Look at his age group record and then comment again.
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Great man! So ons beloon ons veroordeelde seksuele misdadiger vir sy swak vertonings as verdedigingsafrigter met 'n o/21 hoofafrigter pos, en ons aanvalsafrigter wat ons aanval so goed gebrei het in Super Rugby word weer 'n salaris betaal om hom besig te hou tot Super Rugby 2020, sodat hy kan probeer om pappa geselskap te hou en moed in te praat op toer (veral oor Paasnaweek), sodat pappa nie weer 'n senuineenstroting kry nie... Ek bedoel, die ander unies is besig om te baklei om Neil as aanvalsafrigter aan te stel na die Leeus se uitnemende vertoning op die aanval die jaar...
Met die keuses wat ons unie deesdae maak wil ek amper begin dink daar is 'n "conspiracy" aan die gang om die unie te verwoes...
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Ek hoop regtig n Jong man,louritz van der schyff...Kom bitter vinnig oor sy besering....ons het regtig nie n opregde 12 tans nie.....
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Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Great man! So ons beloon ons veroordeelde seksuele misdadiger vir sy swak vertonings as verdedigingsafrigter met 'n o/21 hoofafrigter pos, en ons aanvalsafrigter wat ons aanval so goed gebrei het in Super Rugby word weer 'n salaris betaal om hom besig te hou tot Super Rugby 2020, sodat hy kan probeer om pappa geselskap te hou en moed in te praat op toer (veral oor Paasnaweek), sodat pappa nie weer 'n senuineenstroting kry nie... Ek bedoel, die ander unies is besig om te baklei om Neil as aanvalsafrigter aan te stel na die Leeus se uitnemende vertoning op die aanval die jaar...
Met die keuses wat ons unie deesdae maak wil ek amper begin dink daar is 'n "conspiracy" aan die gang om die unie te verwoes...
Again, Joey was a decent coach at age group level, winning the U19 CC in his first year, becoming assistant coach at the Junior Bokke. Can't be that bad as a coach. And his case is still on appeal. The Lions would not have kept him on if they felt he did not have a chance on his appeal. 
Have you ever coached rugby at SR level? Have you experienced that kind of pressure, irrespective of the final straw that broke the camel's back? These issue are not something to make fun of. 
The only thing I can agree with you on this post is that Niel has not been up to scratch as an attack coach.
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Enige positiewe wat ek darem sien is dat Kwagga nog by ons is volgende jaar
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Any news on where all these players are going?
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Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Again, Joey was a decent coach at age group level, winning the U19 CC in his first year, becoming assistant coach at the Junior Bokke. Can't be that bad as a coach. And his case is still on appeal. The Lions would not have kept him on if they felt he did not have a chance on his appeal. 
Have you ever coached rugby at SR level? Have you experienced that kind of pressure, irrespective of the final straw that broke the camel's back? These issue are not something to make fun of. 
The only thing I can agree with you on this post is that Niel has not been up to scratch as an attack coach.
Nope, never coached at all and I can promise u, I don't think any of this is funny...
Case being on appeal still means he was found GUILTY by a court based on the evidence available... So if I shot someone in cold blood and was found guilty and I appeal the verdict, does it all of a sudden mean I am innocent?  I honestly don't care whether he is the best coach the world has ever seen, he should not be coaching at the Lions... Fact is he was found guilty of a crime in a foreign country while representing his employer...
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I wonder if the union would be comfortable putting him in charge of one of our womens teams? If they believe he is innocent then they should have no problem putting a known, guilty sexual offender in charge of women.
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Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Again, Joey was a decent coach at age group level, winning the U19 CC in his first year, becoming assistant coach at the Junior Bokke. Can't be that bad as a coach. And his case is still on appeal. The Lions would not have kept him on if they felt he did not have a chance on his appeal. 
Have you ever coached rugby at SR level? Have you experienced that kind of pressure, irrespective of the final straw that broke the camel's back? These issue are not something to make fun of. 
The only thing I can agree with you on this post is that Niel has not been up to scratch as an attack coach.
Nope, never coached at all and I can promise u, I don't think any of this is funny...
Case being on appeal still means he was found GUILTY by a court based on the evidence available... So if I shot someone in cold blood and was found guilty and I appeal the verdict, does it all of a sudden mean I am innocent?  I honestly don't care whether he is the best coach the world has ever seen, he should not be coaching at the Lions... Fact is he was found guilty of a crime in a foreign country while representing his employer...



I agree he was supposed to be suspended untill the appeal is done.......but ,ons Mors ons asems,dit gaan nie verander en ons praat Al maande daaroor.....
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Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Great man! So ons beloon ons veroordeelde seksuele misdadiger vir sy swak vertonings as verdedigingsafrigter met 'n o/21 hoofafrigter pos, en ons aanvalsafrigter wat ons aanval so goed gebrei het in Super Rugby word weer 'n salaris betaal om hom besig te hou tot Super Rugby 2020, sodat hy kan probeer om pappa geselskap te hou en moed in te praat op toer (veral oor Paasnaweek), sodat pappa nie weer 'n senuineenstroting kry nie... Ek bedoel, die ander unies is besig om te baklei om Neil as aanvalsafrigter aan te stel na die Leeus se uitnemende vertoning op die aanval die jaar...
Met die keuses wat ons unie deesdae maak wil ek amper begin dink daar is 'n "conspiracy" aan die gang om die unie te verwoes...
Again, Joey was a decent coach at age group level, winning the U19 CC in his first year, becoming assistant coach at the Junior Bokke. Can't be that bad as a coach. And his case is still on appeal. The Lions would not have kept him on if they felt he did not have a chance on his appeal. 
Have you ever coached rugby at SR level? Have you experienced that kind of pressure, irrespective of the final straw that broke the camel's back? These issue are not something to make fun of. 
The only thing I can agree with you on this post is that Niel has not been up to scratch as an attack coach.

We may be rugby fans, but certainly not fanatics that would cut corners on a moral issue such as this. 
Don't think someone like Louis Luyt would have been intimidated by any political pressure in similar situation. If memory serves me right, the Lions sacked someone a few years back for minor office sexual harassment.

Regarding coaching, who is responsible for selecting junior and school coaches into high pressure professional coaching positions? 
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Originally posted by emiel1 emiel1 wrote:

Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Great man! So ons beloon ons veroordeelde seksuele misdadiger vir sy swak vertonings as verdedigingsafrigter met 'n o/21 hoofafrigter pos, en ons aanvalsafrigter wat ons aanval so goed gebrei het in Super Rugby word weer 'n salaris betaal om hom besig te hou tot Super Rugby 2020, sodat hy kan probeer om pappa geselskap te hou en moed in te praat op toer (veral oor Paasnaweek), sodat pappa nie weer 'n senuineenstroting kry nie... Ek bedoel, die ander unies is besig om te baklei om Neil as aanvalsafrigter aan te stel na die Leeus se uitnemende vertoning op die aanval die jaar...
Met die keuses wat ons unie deesdae maak wil ek amper begin dink daar is 'n "conspiracy" aan die gang om die unie te verwoes...
Again, Joey was a decent coach at age group level, winning the U19 CC in his first year, becoming assistant coach at the Junior Bokke. Can't be that bad as a coach. And his case is still on appeal. The Lions would not have kept him on if they felt he did not have a chance on his appeal. 
Have you ever coached rugby at SR level? Have you experienced that kind of pressure, irrespective of the final straw that broke the camel's back? These issue are not something to make fun of. 
The only thing I can agree with you on this post is that Niel has not been up to scratch as an attack coach.

We may be rugby fans, but certainly not fanatics that would cut corners on a moral issue such as this. 
Don't think someone like Louis Luyt would have been intimidated by any political pressure in similar situation. If memory serves me right, the Lions sacked someone a few years back for minor office sexual harassment.

Regarding coaching, who is responsible for selecting junior and school coaches into high pressure professional coaching positions? 
The Lions conducted their own investigation into the whole affair. They had a respected labour relations firm conduct the investigation and hearing. They followed the legal advice given to them. Case closed until after the appeal process has run its course. I don't condone sexual harassment, but with the info that I have, its not a clear cut case. 

How do we know how we will react in a pressure situation? We may handle different types of pressure differently, but we all have a breaking point and something gives. We never know how we will react until we are in those situations.
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Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

The Lions conducted their own investigation into the whole affair. They had a respected labour relations firm conduct the investigation and hearing. They followed the legal advice given to them. Case closed until after the appeal process has run its course. I don't condone sexual harassment, but with the info that I have, its not a clear cut case. 

How do we know how we will react in a pressure situation? We may handle different types of pressure differently, but we all have a breaking point and something gives. We never know how we will react until we are in those situations.
Yet the Lions only had one side of the story to go on... The Victim and the witnesses were not available for the "internal hearing". I highly doubt that an Australian court would have found him guilty if it was not, as you call it, a clear cut case...
Fact of the matter is, that he is a married man, representing his employer in a foreign country that made sexual advances to another woman... Solicited or not (court found that it was unsolicited), no professional person should make himself guilty of such behavior.
In my books, merely going to church on a Sunday and asking for forgiveness does not cut it. He should have been punished for his actions and not rewarded with a head coaching position...
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Ok, so ons weet nou hoe die afrigtings span lyk, en watter spelers definitief NIE daar gaan wees nie. Sal nou graag die groep spelers wil sien wat beskikbaar gaan wees..
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Shoh.. ons het nou 'n probleem op senter.

As Louritz vd Schyff en Simelane een seisoen kan saamspeel sal ons niemand mis. Maar verseker bietjie probleme oor kort termyn.
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Can anyone correct and/or fill in the gaps:

Ruan Combrinck - France 
Robbie Coetzee - ??
Sylvian Mahuza - ??
Nic Groom - England 
Danie Mienie - ??
Robert Kruger - ??
Harold Vorster - ??
Lionel Mapoe - France
Stephan Lewies - England 
Franco Naude - back to the bulls
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We thought we had depth issues this year, things have gone from bad to worse .

My concern is that we had very few guys in the Bok u/20s squad and further to this UJ and Wits dont content for the varsity cup either.

is this a result of the new contracting system? Our rugby is under serious threat. 

And SARU thinks by paying the "BEST" Boks more , they will stay, well they wont. They will get greedy anyway and we will lose youngsters due to having limited contracts available
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we are losing so many players but it seems like we are not filling those holes. Don't hear anything about new signings and we can't rely to much on our junior systems you still need experience. 
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we are losing so many players but it seems like we are not filling those holes. Don't hear anything about new signings and we can't rely to much on our junior systems you still need experience. 
The problem is that there arent too many players with experience in the market, hence the negotiations with players like Ulengo. That is also the reason we used players like Groom and Lewies. 
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