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emiel1
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Stem saam. Is 'n breindood taktiek wat ons 'n hele paar keer (veral deur Andries Coetzee) teen die Kiwi spanne gekos het. 'n Goed uitgevoerde "cross kick" vir die vleeul het sy plek. So ook 'n taktiese skop vir distansie (indien daar goeie opvolgwerk is om vinnige ingooi te verhoed), en 'n "grubber" agter die verdediging om die opposisie aan die raai te hou.
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Niela
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Hmmm, not sure.
The kick is just as good as the chase. If you expect the kick to land just oustside the 22 , then it falls on the 10m line and you must adjust your speed, then you are compromised. Either way, this is all in the past. And it is what it is. We've moved away from up and unders, which is fine. But we need to work on how we receive high kicks. its a weakness of ours |
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Transvaal
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verseker kan mens grubbers en kortskoppies net oor die verdedigers probeer, of hoeke toe skop vir gebied en die opponente vas te pen, maar uppies is vir my 'n breindood taktiek
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valie
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Om te dink jy gaan baie driee druk deur net elke bal te probeer hardloop, is naief.
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Transvaal
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Nee ek is baie erg daaroor, up and unders hoort vir my nie in rugby nie, dit behoort nie deel van jou game plan te wees nie, behalwe as jy weet die opponente se agterste drie het absolute bottervingers
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Red_Machine
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To me its irrelevant to argue that the kick shouldn't have happened or blame whomever kicked it, fact is as the advancing player it was Kwagga's responsibility to ensure the safety of the player in the air. So he should have put in a legitimate challenge or pulled out and waited for the player to land and then smashed him. 100% his fault, and to quote Transvaal "en niemand gaan my standpunt ooit daaroor vernader nie!" Hahaha
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Transvaal
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or 3rd option the kick should never have been kicked
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valie
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Ja, THAT kick was actually launched by Elton. I'm still in two minds if the kick was badly executed or if Kwagga just totally misjudged it.
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Transvaal
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No, it wasn't Ross that kicked THAT up and under
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Niela
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Ross Cronje (I think) was the guy that kicked that up and under in 2017.
He used to kick a lot of those at one stage. Now we seemed to have moved away from that tactic in recent times. I must say, I also hate it. But its part of the game.... We've been poor receiving the kicks as well, it feels like Boeboes and Dyantyi in particular struggle under the high ball when they must jump for the ball. Losing those contests in the air also added to our issues this season. |
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valie
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Transvaal
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NEE....daar is nie plek vir skop en charge in rugby nie, en niemand gaan my standpunt ooit daaroor vernader nie! LOL!
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Lion4ever
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I have to agree with Valie. A well placed up and under, with a good chase will always put the receiving team under pressure. Poorly executed, and you simply gift the opposition the ball.
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Transvaal
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>>>'n Goeie up and under het altyd n plek.
NEE
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valie
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Dis maar dieselfde met mauls. Nie almal hou van mauls nie, maar niemand kla as sy span wen deur 4 of 5 driee vanaf mauls te druk nie. Die Up and under wat Kwagga se rooikaart veroorsaak het, was bloot n swak uitvoering. As Kwagga ook vir die bal gekompeteer het, was dit nooit n kaart nie, maar hy het Havili se bene los onder hom uit gehardloop.
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gertjie0000
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Stem saam met jou transvaal of jy skop n goeie skop vir gebieds voordeel of jy hardloop met die bal aan die regte kant van die geld
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Transvaal
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Ek is meer geneig om die speler wat die up-and-under geskop het, te blameer vir die verloor op Ellispark as die speler wat die rooi kaart gekry het. Up and unders is werklik iets wat nie in rugby hoort nie, in my opinie. Dis asof jy se ek weet nie regtig wat om met die bal te doen nie, kom ons kyk of jy dit kan vang as ek dit op jou skop of nie
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Niela
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We scored some "own goals" , that B team to Argentina case and point.
2017 I don't really blame Kwagga for the red card. He is a guy that gives 100% and he just looked up for a split 2nd and the ball already came down. The rule that says "If the player lands dangerously , its red" , is a joke. Its such a gamble, a player can land in so many different ways. That game was such a downer, was at the park getting beer for half time, then I heard a booo and saw the card, VERY disappointing! 2018 We were lucky , but if you look at the final, we actually dominated the game. We had all the territory and possession. Why did we lose? Same reason we lose most of our games. we simply concede to much points. Against the Bulls last week, we had much more ball, but they score tries with little ball. Our defense is our single biggest weakness. 2019 compared to 16/17/18, an absolute train smash. compare to 12/13/14 , what a great year. Its all relative. Things happen in cycles, we will bounce back. we have the talent coming trough. The only positive is that the guys will be hungrier next year. Could be just what we need. |
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Red_Machine
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2017 was a very close 2nd to the 2016 team and there a decision by Kwagga cost us the SR title. (And I still have a hard time forgiving him) 2018 if we are honest we were only there thanks to the conference system.
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Red_Machine
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What 2016-2018 shows me is continuity, which we lacked this season. Players need time to grow into the team and learn how the people around them play. I dont think we played 2 games in a row with the same starting 15 or game day 23.
But I agree with the sentiment that you cant lose the quality and quantity of players we did and expect to be contenders.
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valie
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vdwestjo
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Ja stem ons grootste verlies was Franco Mostert en hierdie jaar was ons baie dun in die losvoorspelers wat altyd ons sterk punt was. Maar die groot ligpunt is die getal jong spelers wat ons kon deurbring. Hopelik doen ons goed in die Currie Beker die jaar wat goeie dinge vir die toekoms sal voorspel
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Transvaal
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Mens verloor partykeer die groter prentjie uit die oog, ek dink as mens na hierdie stat kyk het Swys 'n baie moeilike taak gehad hierdie jaar.
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Transvaal
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En 11 van die wedstryd 23
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Transvaal
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So in vergelyking met laas jaar se finaal is net 7 spelers in die begin XV dieselfde
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