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    Posted: 14-Aug-2019 at 2:43pm

The Springboks have been challenged by Rassie Erasmus to make a resounding statement about the health of South African rugby in the team’s Farewell Test against Argentina at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria on Saturday.

Erasmus, the SA Rugby director of rugby, unleashed a new-look team to take on the Pumas on Wednesday, packed with players looking to secure a place in South Africa’s Rugby World Cup squad.

Eighteen of the team featured in the Castle Lager Rugby Championship-winning campaign but also included are five “newcomers” in the returning Siya Kolisi, Thomas du Toit and Wilco Louw (prop), Marco van Staden (looseforward) and potential debutant Scarra Ntubeni (hooker).

Kolisi has been named in the starting XV for a cameo role as he continues his carefully managed rehabilitation from a knee injury while the team is captained for the first time by the experienced Schalk Brits (hooker), who becomes the second oldest Springbok captain at 38 years and three months, and makes his first start in the green and gold since 2008.

The backline that helped overwhelm Australia at Emirates Airline Park a month ago has been re-united with the exception of scrumhalf, where Cobus Reinach gets an opportunity to start; while the pack features a new front row, a mighty Vodacom Bulls locking combination and a first start of the season for Marcell Coetzee alongside Kolisi and Rynhardt Elstadt.

The Springboks have lost only once in their past six Tests, gathering the momentum and consistency requested of them by Erasmus, and he has charged Saturday’s Boks to up the ante.

“No matter what has happened before this weekend, the momentum we will go to the World Cup with will depend on what happens on Saturday,” Erasmus said.

“Some of these players will know they are on the plane but for others it is make or break – and even if they don’t make the plane there will be six standby roles to be identified.

“We’ve picked a formidable pack and we saw what the backline did against Australia so I am really excited to see what they can do on Saturday to prove their own case and also show just how strong South African rugby is.”

Erasmus said Brits had temporarily taken the captaincy as Kolisi’s role was likely to be a short one.

“I’ve asked Siya to empty his tank and go as hard for as long as he can,” said Erasmus.

“I’ve told him he might even come off in the first half. He has played less than 50 minutes of Currie Cup rugby in the last 12 weeks but I needed him to have a taste of Test rugby again before we leave for Japan.”

Vice-captain Elton Jantjies will take over the leadership role in the event of Brits being replaced – opening the way for a debut by Ntubeni. The DHL Stormers hooker toured with the Springboks in 2013 and 2014 but has had a long wait to pull on the jersey for the first time in a Test.

Erasmus said the split between six forwards and two backs on the bench was to provide extra looseforward cover for Kolisi’s cameo return.

Frans Steyn would cover all of flyhalf, centre and fullback with Faf de Klerk the only other back replacement.

Season sensation Herschel Jantjies was slated to provide scrumhalf cover but he was withdrawn on Tuesday following a blow to his head in training. It is not expected to affect his potential inclusion in the Rugby World Cup squad.

“This is a massive Test for us against a fired-up Argentina team that will looking to end their Test campaign on a high,” said Erasmus.

“We’ve gained momentum over the Castle Lager Rugby Championship – the last thing we want to do is lose it.”

Saturday’s match against Argentina kicks off at 17h05 and tickets are available fromwww.ticketpro.co.za and the Loftus Versfeld ticket office.

 

The Springbok team to play Argentina in Pretoria (in order of name, franchise or club, caps and points):

15. Warrick Gelant (Vodacom Bulls), 6, 5 (1t)

14. Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks), 7, 25 (5t)

13. Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Bulls), 43, 60 (12t)

12. André Esterhuizen (Cell C Sharks), 7, 0

11. Dillyn Leyds (DHL Western Province), 9 5 (1t)

10. Elton Jantjies (vice-captain – Emirates Lions), 34, 239 (2t, 47c, 45p)

9. Cobus Reinach (Northampton, England), 11, 15 (3t)

8. Marcell Coetzee (Ulster, Northern Ireland) 29, 30 (6t)

7. Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse, France), 1, 0

6. Siya Kolisi (DHL Western Province), 41, 25 (5t)

5. Lood de Jager (Vodacom Bulls), 39, 25 (5t)

4. RG Snyman (Vodacom Bulls), 14, 0

3. Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), 14, 0

2. Schalk Brits (captain – Vodacom Bulls), 12, 5 (1t)

1. Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks), 9, 0

Replacements:

16. Scarra Ntubeni (DHL Western Province), uncapped

17. Lizo Gqoboka (Vodacom Bulls), 1, 0

18. Wilco Louw (DHL Western Province), 12, 0

19. Marvin Orie (Emirates Lions), 2, 0

20. Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls), 2, 0

21. Kwagga Smith (Emirates Lions), 3, 0

22. Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), 23, 15 (3t)

23. Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France) 59, 132 (10t, 5c, 21p, 3d)

 

Facts and Stats:

 

Springbok Test caps:

  • The total number of Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is 276 – there are 117 in the backline and 159 amongst the forwards, with a further 82 caps on the bench.
  • The average caps per player in the backline is 17, the forwards’ average is 20, while the players on the bench average 13.
  • The average age of the starting fifteen is 27.
  • At 38 years and three months, Schalk Brits will be the oldest player ever to get his first taste of international captaincy in South African rugby history. However, Brits will be the second oldest captain in Springbok history behind Victor Matfield, who was 38 and 172 days old when he led the South Africa against Los Pumas in the bronze medal match at the 2015 Rugby World Cup.

 

Record Watch:

  • Elton Jantjies needs four conversions to join Morné Steyn on 15 career conversions against Argentina. He needs to score 22 points to join Handré Pollard (79 points) in second place for most career points against Argentina.
  • Morné Steyn is on top with 84 career points.

 

General:

  • This will be only the second time in just more than 25 years that the Springboks will host Argentina at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria.
  • The only other Test against Argentina at this venue was five years ago, on 16 August 2014, when Jean de Villiers’ Springboks scraped through in a low-scoring match with a seven point victory (13-6).
  • To date, the Boks have played 12 Tests matches against the Pumas on home soil, losing only once in Durban (25-37). Pumas wing, Juan Imhoff, scored three tries in that match to become the first and only player to date to achieve such a feat in this fixture.

 

Head to head in South Africa:

 

Played

Won

Lost

Drawn

PF

PA

TF

TA

Win %

12

11

1

0

465

232

58

22

92

 

Team records against Argentina in South Africa:

  • Most points: 73 – 17 August, 2013 in Johannesburg.
  • Most tries: 9 – 9 August, 2008 in Johannesburg and 17 August, 2013 in Johannesburg.
  • Most conversions: 9 – 9 August, 2008 in Johannesburg.
  • Most penalty goals: 4 – 28 June, 2013 in Port Elizabeth and 17 August, 2013 in Johannesburg.

 

Individual records against Argentina in South Africa:

  • Most points: 28 – Morné Steyn – 17 August, 2013 in Johannesburg.
  • Most tries: 2 – By seven players.
  • Most conversions: 9 – Butch James – 9 August, 2008 in Johannesburg.
  • Most penalty goals: 4 – Louis Koen – 28 June, 2003 in Port Elizabeth and Morné Steyn – 17 August, 2013 in Johannesburg.

 

All Test matches against Argentina:

 

Played

Won

Lost

Drawn

PF

PA

TF

TA

Win %

29

25

3

1

1 034

576

123

54

86

 

Team records:

  • Most points: 73 in Johannesburg on 17 August, 2013
  • Most tries: 9 in Johannesburg on 9 August, 2008 and on 17 August, 2013
  • Most conversions: 9 in Johannesburg on 9 August, 2008
  • Most penalty goals: 5 in Mendoza on 24 August, 2013 and in Salta on 10 August, 2019
  • Most drop goals: 1 on two occasions (5 November, 2005 and 15 August, 2015) in Buenos Aires.

 

Individual records:

  • Most points: 31 by Handré Pollard (2t, 3c, 5p) in Salta on 10 August, 2019
  • Most tries: 2 by fifteen players with the late James Small on two occasions.
  • Most conversions: 9 by Butch James in Johannesburg on 9 August, 2008.
  • Most penalty goals: 5 by Morné Steyn in Mendoza on 24 August, 2013 and by Handré Pollard in Salta on 10 August, 2019.
  • Most drop goals: 1 by each of Bolla Conradie in Buenos Aires on 5 November, 2005 and Patrick Lambie in Buenos Aires on 15 August, 2015

 

Career records:

  • Most caps: 17 – Tendai Mtawarira.
  • Most tries: Bryan Habana – 8
  • Most conversions: Morné Steyn – 15.
  • Most penalty goals: Morné Steyn – 18.
  • Most points: Morné Steyn – 84.

 

Match officials:

  • The match referee is Luke Pearce of England and this will be his second Test match as a referee with South Africa involved, in his 23rd career Test match.
  • The assistant referees are Andrew Brace (Ireland) and Pierre Brousset (France), while Irishman Simon McDowell is the TMO.
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Making Brits captain , whilst Kolisi is starting is a joke.

You cant make the captains armband so cheap, kolisi could be captain, then Brits can take over if Kolisi isnt on the field. 

I wonder if Rassie and Brits were having a few brandys on Saturday when they conjured up that idea   


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Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Making Brits captain , whilst Kolisi is starting is a joke.

You cant make the captains armband so cheap, kolisi could be captain, then Brits can take over if Kolisi isnt on the field. 

I wonder if Rassie and Brits were having a few brandys on Saturday when they conjured up that idea   


I have to agree... it's not even as if Brits is a certainty for the World Cup, nor a Springbok legend. Has he ever been captain at a lower level?
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Toe Brits vir die Rooibontes gespeel het wou julle hom almal kaptein maak, nou moan julle?

Hy leer vir Marx ordentlik ingooi by die lynstane.
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Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Toe Brits vir die Rooibontes gespeel het wou julle hom almal kaptein maak, nou moan julle?

Hy leer vir Marx ordentlik ingooi by die lynstane.
Ja, maar dit was in die ou millenium Wink
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Ja nee kyk, dit was darem baie jare terug toe hy nog ordentlike rugby gespeel het. Hy was daai tyd ongelukkig om nie die bok span te haal nie. Ek dink ook dit maak die kaptein posisie baie goedkoop om dit sommer net vir iemand op die fringes te gee vir 1 game.. 
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Ek was n moerse supporter van scalla, het nie n issue met hom in die span as 3de hakker nie, maar hy kan nie sommer net die kaptein wees nie. 

Ons het nou PSDT, WW, EE, Siya en Duane gehad in minder as 18 maande, nou Schalk ook.

die AB's het Read , en as hy nie speel nie, Whitelock of Cane. dis dit....
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ja nee kyk, dit was darem baie jare terug toe hy nog ordentlike rugby gespeel het. Hy was daai tyd ongelukkig om nie die bok span te haal nie. Ek dink ook dit maak die kaptein posisie baie goedkoop om dit sommer net vir iemand op die fringes te gee vir 1 game.. 
Die is nie n toets wat tel vir enigiets nie, en volgens wat ek vanoggend op die radio hoor is dat Rassie vir Kolisie net op sy eie game laat wil konsentreer, ipv kapteinskap.
Ons is in die professionele era, die coach moet doen wat die beste is vir die hele groep wat hy wil saamvat. Brits is obviously n leier in die squad, en het al baie spanne in sy lewe gelei as kaptein. Ek sou dink dat hy die kapteinskap goedkoop maak indien hy dit vir Vet Frans of so iemand gee.
Solank as daar net "method in the madness" is.
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Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ja nee kyk, dit was darem baie jare terug toe hy nog ordentlike rugby gespeel het. Hy was daai tyd ongelukkig om nie die bok span te haal nie. Ek dink ook dit maak die kaptein posisie baie goedkoop om dit sommer net vir iemand op die fringes te gee vir 1 game.. 
Die is nie n toets wat tel vir enigiets nie, en volgens wat ek vanoggend op die radio hoor is dat Rassie vir Kolisie net op sy eie game laat wil konsentreer, ipv kapteinskap.
Ons is in die professionele era, die coach moet doen wat die beste is vir die hele groep wat hy wil saamvat. Brits is obviously n leier in die squad, en het al baie spanne in sy lewe gelei as kaptein. Ek sou dink dat hy die kapteinskap goedkoop maak indien hy dit vir Vet Frans of so iemand gee.
Solank as daar net "method in the madness" is.

Is hierdie 'n offisiele toets, en kry die spelers wat speelkans kry nog 'n cap? In daai geval tel dit mos vir iets. En kan Kolisis nou regtig nie op sy eie game fokus EN nog besluit om pale toe te skop of nie..? 

En Brits is die 3de keuse haker in die groep.. 
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ja nee kyk, dit was darem baie jare terug toe hy nog ordentlike rugby gespeel het. Hy was daai tyd ongelukkig om nie die bok span te haal nie. Ek dink ook dit maak die kaptein posisie baie goedkoop om dit sommer net vir iemand op die fringes te gee vir 1 game.. 
Die is nie n toets wat tel vir enigiets nie, en volgens wat ek vanoggend op die radio hoor is dat Rassie vir Kolisie net op sy eie game laat wil konsentreer, ipv kapteinskap.
Ons is in die professionele era, die coach moet doen wat die beste is vir die hele groep wat hy wil saamvat. Brits is obviously n leier in die squad, en het al baie spanne in sy lewe gelei as kaptein. Ek sou dink dat hy die kapteinskap goedkoop maak indien hy dit vir Vet Frans of so iemand gee.
Solank as daar net "method in the madness" is.

Is hierdie 'n offisiele toets, en kry die spelers wat speelkans kry nog 'n cap? In daai geval tel dit mos vir iets. En kan Kolisis nou regtig nie op sy eie game fokus EN nog besluit om pale toe te skop of nie..? 

En Brits is die 3de keuse haker in die groep.. 
Ek dink dis maar n kwessie van wat vir Rassie die belangrikste is - om die toets te wen, of om die fringe spelers en beseerdes vir oulaas kans te gee om hulle kleim af te steek op n plek in die wereldbeker groep. Onthou, baie van die spelers wat Saterdag speel, het nog bitter min speelkans gekry. Ek vermoed dat Brits waarskynlik die "B span" wat teen die kleiner lande sal speel, sal aanvoer.
Kolisi gaan ook heelwaarskynlik net 40 minute speel. Die verskil tussen n amateur afrigter en n professionele afrigter in hierdie geval sou wees dat die amateur afrigter  alles sal insit om in n wereldbeker jaar elke liewe toets te wen, selfs ten koste van sy groep spelers, as dit moet.
Die professionele afrigter, of afrigter met n professionele mindset sal hierdie tipe toets, waar daar niks op die spel is nie, gebruik om seker te maak hy vat die regte spelers saam wereldbeker toe.
Dit maak mos sin dat hy eerder in die wedstryd proefnemings doen as in die wereldbeker.
Die feit is dat wanneer die wereldbeker verby is, niemand eers hierdie toes gaan onthou nie, tensy daar nou rerig iets buitengewoon gebeur.


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Valie, dit is alles goed en wel. Ons was nie besig om sy span keuses te bevraagteken nie, dit is baie obviously n B span vol fringe spelers wat speelkans kry. Die punt is, die erkende bok kaptein begin die toets, en al weet ons hy gaan nie die hele game speel nie, moet hy mos kaptein wees? Brits kon instaan as kaptein die oomblik wat Kolisi afgaan..

Wanneer mens eendag na die lys van bok kapteine kyk gaan Brits se naam daar wees. Daar is nie in hakies langsaan dit was n B span in 'n nikswerd toets nie.. 
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Valie, dit is alles goed en wel. Ons was nie besig om sy span keuses te bevraagteken nie, dit is baie obviously n B span vol fringe spelers wat speelkans kry. Die punt is, die erkende bok kaptein begin die toets, en al weet ons hy gaan nie die hele game speel nie, moet hy mos kaptein wees? Brits kon instaan as kaptein die oomblik wat Kolisi afgaan..

Wanneer mens eendag na die lys van bok kapteine kyk gaan Brits se naam daar wees. Daar is nie in hakies langsaan dit was n B span in 'n nikswerd toets nie.. 
Maak dit regtig so baie saak wie die kaptein is en wie nie?
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Onthou Brits is eintlik daar as n mentor vir die jonges. Sover werk Rassie se planne soos n bom, dankie tog ons het nie meer n afrigter wat nie uit die boks kan dink nie. Al die spelers in die squad het ten minste n speelkans gekry. 
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Onthou Brits is eintlik daar as n mentor vir die jonges. Sover werk Rassie se planne soos n bom, dankie tog ons het nie meer n afrigter wat nie uit die boks kan dink nie. Al die spelers in die squad het ten minste n speelkans gekry. 
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