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The Lions next play the Cheetahs at Ellis Park on Saturday 24 October 2020, kickoff at 16:30.

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    Posted: 01-Oct-2020 at 6:53am
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The Bloemfontein-based team will have to find a new home, possibly the Super 8, after SA Rugby decided the Bulls, Lions, Sharks and Stormers will play in Europe from next year.

Cheetahs head coach Hawies Fourie said they don’t need to prove anything in next month’s local competition after being kicked out of Pro14 rugby.

SA Rugby’s General Council on Tuesday voted in favour of the four Super Rugby teams moving north to play in an expanded Pro16 competition from next year, while at the same time suggesting the Cheetahs should take part in a new Super 8 competition, which will involve teams from New Zealand, Australia, Fiji and Japan.

Harold Verster, the MD of the Cheetahs, said on Wednesday that if they take part in the Super 8 competition they would be able to make up for possible financial losses suffered by not playing Pro rugby.

“We are working on a model. I don’t think we would lose too much income if we entered the Super 8. Also, I believe we would be able to take care of our responsibilities,” said Verster.

The Cheetahs will also play in a new SA Cup competition where all 14 unions will be divided into two pools on historic log standings and contest a single-round competition to identify eight teams for a knockout stage of quarter-finals, semi-finals and final.

In the Currie Cup, the four mooted Pro Rugby Championship franchises – the Bulls, Lions, Sharks and Stormers – plus the top four non-franchise qualifiers from the SA Cup would contest the Currie Cup Premier Division over a double-round with semi-final and final.

The bottom six SA Cup teams will contest the Currie Cup First Division in a single-round competition before semi-finals and final.

Fourie said he found it tough to agree the Cheetahs are not good enough for Pro Rugby.

“I don’t think we really want to prove anything regarding (our exit of) Pro Rugby,” said Fourie. “We were willing to play in the competition in 2017 (when the structure of Super Rugby changed) and the Cheetahs did very well in the three seasons they were part of Pro Rugby,” said Fourie.

Fourie pointed to the fact that they had reached the quarter-finals and won 76% of their home games. “So there wasn’t a logical reason for me that we shouldn’t play in Pro Rugby … whether we win the Currie Cup or not,” he said.

“The Cheetahs have proved themselves over a period of time as one of the top teams in the country and for me there was no valid reason to kick us out of the competition,” he said.



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Ek stem dat dit nie regverdig is om die Cheetahs uit te skop nie en dit sonder dat hulle eers die kans in 'n promosie/ relegasie wedstryd gegun word om hulle plek te behou nie...
Ek is seker dat hulle ook saam enige van die ander spanne sou staan as die ander span net uit 'n kompetisie geskop sou word.... - O wag....
Kry maar vir julle. Julle was maar te gretig om van die Leeus ontslae te raak in 2013... Nou dat die wiel bietjie gedraai het wil julle huil? 7 jaar later en ek sukkel nogsteeds om enige meegevoel vir 'n Cheetah of Stormer se verlies... Inteendeel, ek ervaar 'n gevoel van schadenfreude...

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Ek en jy dink dieselfde oor die situasie, hulle het ons help uitstem uit SR in 2012 so nou is die skoen aan die ander voet, laat hulle maar vir hulle kry. Wiel het 8 jaar geneem om te draai maar draai het hy gedraai
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Like both of you, I have no tears for the Cheetahs or Kings.. They helped kick us out of SR back then, so kry maar vir julle die wiel draai
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Ek wonder of hulle dan n Frans Steyn en Ruan Pienaar sal kan hou?
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Hmmm, ek wonder maar net hardop. Wat gaan beter vir 'n span se kwaliteit rugby wees, om in 'n 2nd rate europese liga te speel of om teen die beste NZ en Aus spanne te speel? Ek sal nie te ontsteld wees as ek die FS was nie, dit kan 'n blessing in disguise wees
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Hmmm, ek wonder maar net hardop. Wat gaan beter vir 'n span se kwaliteit rugby wees, om in 'n 2nd rate europese liga te speel of om teen die beste NZ en Aus spanne te speel? Ek sal nie te ontsteld wees as ek die FS was nie, dit kan 'n blessing in disguise wees
Is so, maar ek dink nie Super Rugby kan sustainable wees met net 1 SA span nie...
Die Cheetahs het nou nie die grootste fanbase nie en dus gaan die inkomste uit uitsaairegte maar min wees. Weet ook nie hoe hulle die Aussie en NZ spanne gaan oorreed om al die kostes aan te gaan om al hulle spanne hierheen te vlieg om die cheetahs te speel nie.
Met die 4 groot SA spanne uit, verloor SR seker omtrent die helfte van hulle inkomste, wat kan beteken dat meer van die goeie NZ spelers inelkgeval eerder oorsee gaan speel, wat dan die kwaliteit baie gaan verswak.
Ek dink ook dat die hele storie in die lang termyn 'n groter negatiewe impak op NZ se rugby krag gaan he as op ons sin. 

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