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    Posted: 04-Mar-2019 at 9:01am
By Brenden Nel

A visibly irritated Swys de Bruin will head back to the drawing board for answers Monday morning after the mauling his Emirates Lions side took at the hands of the Vodacom Bulls on Saturday.

De Bruin wasn’t a happy man after the 30-12 defeat – the first time in four years that a South African franchise has outplayed them on their home turf and the first victory in seven years for the Bulls across the Jukskei.

And to make matters worse, the normally slick and fluid Lions machine stuttered and were hardly in the game, looking a lot tamer than the side that surged to three consecutive Vodacom Super Rugby finals.

De Bruin made no excuses, but didn’t hide the fact the was far from happy with his charges.

“No excuses, we were outplayed by a much better team on the day and we will have to go work very hard to rectify our mistakes, but congratulations to them, they outplayed us. They taught us a rugby lesson.

“Look, we will have to go analyse. We didn’t have the ball for the first 24 minutes. We just never saw the ball. We need ball to play, we are that type of team. The word they use is suffocate, we battled in the air – I will have to go count, all the aerial kicks, I don’t think we caught one. So no one to blame – it starts with me, and I will take it from there,” De Bruin said.

And while the team was missing inspirational captain Warren Whiteley they would not use it as an excuse either.

“No excuses, we have a squad system. It doesn’t matter that (Rhyno) Herbst and those guys have their first cap, and they play against Duane and those boys. It is Super Rugby and we have to man up and we didn’t man up.”

There was a brief flutter in the second half when the Lions got their hands on the ball and scored two tries, and it seemed as if they were about to make a comeback, but it was snuffed out by the boot of Handre Pollard, who kicked 20 points on the day.

“We’ve been behind before, you guys know it, and we did come back. I thought at stages here we go, but we had some terrible knocks. Just when I thought this is the time to come back, so all will be forgotten and we just have to finish.

“Our discipline was nowhere, we kick through and we just have to trap the guy, we are three guys on one and we go and make a high tackle and we relieve all the pressure. If you give silly penalties away then you are not going to win games.”

De Bruin said there would be some soul-searching in the team ranks this week to rectify it before they face the Jaguares, and this simply wasn’t good enough.

“It starts with me, we must be man enough to rectiy this and we can’t be happy whatsoever. Because it is sport, I will always back the guys – win or lose. We aren’t playing to win or lose, we are playing to score tries. We scored two tries and it was not enough. They scored two tries, and what was the difference? The kicks. When they put it down they kicked it over. It’s disappointing stuff.”

The Lions will name their team for the Jaguares on Thursday

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"Because it is sport, I will always back the guys – win or lose. We aren’t playing to win or lose, we are playing to score tries. "

Hierdie stelling maak gladnie sin nie. So ons kan 10 driee druk en die game verloor maar hy sal dan gelukkig wees??? Vir 'n span en afrigter wat so 'n obsessie het met driee druk vaar ons maar regtig vrot in daai afdeling!!!
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

"Because it is sport, I will always back the guys – win or lose. We aren’t playing to win or lose, we are playing to score tries. "

Hierdie stelling maak gladnie sin nie. So ons kan 10 driee druk en die game verloor maar hy sal dan gelukkig wees??? Vir 'n span en afrigter wat so 'n obsessie het met driee druk vaar ons maar regtig vrot in daai afdeling!!!
Stem, dis n rare ingesteldheid...
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

"Because it is sport, I will always back the guys – win or lose. We aren’t playing to win or lose, we are playing to score tries. "

Hierdie stelling maak gladnie sin nie. So ons kan 10 driee druk en die game verloor maar hy sal dan gelukkig wees??? Vir 'n span en afrigter wat so 'n obsessie het met driee druk vaar ons maar regtig vrot in daai afdeling!!!
As ons dan net driee druk!! Maar ons het oor 3 wedstryde 'n volle 7 driee gedruk en al 7 was deur ons voorspelers... 
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Dit is fine om te wil score, maar kom eers in die game.. ons het in die verlede ons gatte afgewerk om spasie te skep, deesdae verwag die ouens net daar is spasie, niemand maak spasie nie. 

Jy kan nie rugby speel as jy nie die vuil werk eerste doen nie, om te score kom  vanself as mens die harde werk in gesit het. Ons is planloos.. en dit begin by Swys en Kie. Die ouens is nou so gecoach dat hulle glad nie vir hulself kan dink nie.


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Ten minste vat hy verantwoordelikheid daarvoor. Ek hoop net hy en sy brains trust werk nou aan die tekortkominge, en sort die dissipline uit. Toe ek gister weer die game kyk, het ek, behalwe vir die eerste 30 minute tog die idee gekry dat ons die game kon wen. Die Bulle was nie soveel beter as ons, as wat die media te kenne wou gee nie, ons het net te veel foute gemaak, en was een dimensioneel, en het heeltemal in hulle hande in gespeel. Toe Ross opkom het ons meer direk begin speel, en toe begin die gate oopgaan, want toe het ons hulle begin dwing om tackles te maak. As ons van die begin af so gespeel het, het ons hulle outlast.

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Ek dink darem nie Swys bedoel dat dit okay is as ons verloor maar drieë druk nie. Dink hy probeer sê dat ons op ons prosesse fokus wat daar is om drieë te produseer.. en as mens dit goed doen behoort die wenne vanself te kom. Probleem is ons maak te veel foute en daarom sal enige plan of proses onsuksesvol wees. Wel ek hoop dis wat hy bedoel!!!

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Originally posted by Goue Leeu Goue Leeu wrote:

Ek dink darem nie Swys bedoel dat dit okay is as ons verloor maar drieë druk nie. Dink hy probeer sê dat ons op ons prosesse fokus wat daar is om drieë te produseer.. en as mens dit goed doen behoort die wenne vanself te kom. Probleem is ons maak te veel foute en daarom sal enige plan of proses onsuksesvol wees. Wel ek hoop dis wat hy bedoel!!!
Dis soos ek dit ook verstaan, en dis goed, maar n strafskop wat n sitter is, skop jy nie kantlyn toe nie. Scoreboard pressure was Saterdag ons grootste vyand. Ons moet dit ons vriend maak.
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Ons het net so veel driee as hulle gedruk. Die verskil is dat hulle met skoppe, 18 punte meer as ons gehad het.
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Ek weet hy bedoel nie driee druk is belangriker as wen nie.. maar hel, lyk dit enigsins of ons probeer driee druk met die agterlyn? Nee dit doen nie, die ouens kry staan staan die bal, daar is geen switches of enigiets wat ons die laaste 3 seisoene so goed gemaak het nie. So ek verstaan nie hoe sy fokus op driee druk is, maar dis die area waarin ons die swakste doen?
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Agterlyn kort 'n moerse shakeup... die ouens is te gamklik in hulle posiesies....

Tyd vir die jong outjies om 'n run te kry...
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We started to look more dangerous when Ross came on and also that new center. Can't remember his name. Suddenly we started to look a bit more dangerous. However, we have to give huge credit to the Bulls. They came with a game plan and executed very well. The plan was to starve us of possession. This they did very well in the first half. In fact, with all that possession, I am surprised that they did not score more.

We seem to lack our creativity in the midfield. Elton is a bit off his game at the moment, and our centers don't seem to know how to cope with the rush defence.
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Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

We started to look more dangerous when Ross came on and also that new center. Can't remember his name. Suddenly we started to look a bit more dangerous. However, we have to give huge credit to the Bulls. They came with a game plan and executed very well. The plan was to starve us of possession. This they did very well in the first half. In fact, with all that possession, I am surprised that they did not score more.

We seem to lack our creativity in the midfield. Elton is a bit off his game at the moment, and our centers don't seem to know how to cope with the rush defence.
I agree about Ross, he definitely made a positive impact when he came on.

I said this on another thread, but it is aligned with some of your points:
1. We need two centers. Harold and Lional have been very poor.
2. Marnus and Kwagga cannot be on the field at the same time, unless we have a big, strong, mobile lock or #8 to give us some grunt and mongrel. 
3. Reynolds needs to be given a chance, even if that means moving Elton to #12. 
4. Marz needs to do some soul searching, the "best hooker in the world" was taught a rugby lesson by a 37yo. Add that to his disastrous 1st outing as captain and things are looking bleak, at one lineout he "stripped his moer" and just one handed tossed the ball at the lineout because they couldn't get the call right.  
5. Our basic skills are nonexistent, too many missed tackles, too many knock ons, too many high ball spills.  
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