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S15: Bloodied noses for Bok front-rankers

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    Posted: 03-Jun-2019 at 8:21am
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Mitigating circumstances? Yes, some … but an embarrassing day at the office for three highly-touted Springbok props nevertheless marked the latest round of Super Rugby.

On a weekend where the geographically distant Jaguares took themselves to within a whisker of securing the SA conference for the first time, the Stormers’ Steven Kitshoff, Wilco Louw and Frans Malherbe would not have looked back with any affection on their duties against the fired-up, comfortably victorious Lions at Emirates Airline Park.

Kitshoff is right up there with the currently injured Sharks veteran Tendai Mtawarira as premier-tier Bok loosehead, while tightheads Louw and Malherbe have similarly been among the most favoured engine-room staff for the national team in their specialist berth over the last couple of years.

So while the increasingly crippling spate of injuries in the Capetonians’ ranks has been a contributor, the battering their usually respected scrum took from the home outfit – it went some way to explaining the 41-22 outcome – was a major post-game talking point.

The Lions only have one current Bok in their own front row, juggernaut hooker Malcolm Marx, but with Dylan Smith and Carlu Sadie no less impressive beside him, their set-piece quickly earned ascendancy and then only tightened the grip mercilessly.

While the Stormers had to give a late, maiden start to Chad Solomon -- a mobile hooker but not the beefiest scrummaging factor in the role you will ever see – and mid-match injuries to both starting locks Eben Etzebeth and Cobus Wiese simply deepened their plight, it was still a strange, unsettling spectacle to witness the likes of Kitshoff, Louw and Malherbe having to pick themselves up in undignified fashion from the deck after being buckled backwards at several scrums.

Aided also by the sparkling nuisance value both on the deck and in open play by dynamic loose forward Kwagga Smith, the Lions produced vintage moments of attacking flair at times to run in six tries in the near-rout.

The handsome result catapulted them back to second in the conference and fifth overall, even though the Jaguares, now having completed a rosy Australasian tour with three precious wins from four fixtures, boast a nearly unassailable six-point lead in the group.

With just successive Buenos Aires clashes ahead against the Sharks (next weekend) and then the usually easy-meat Sunwolves to follow for the Argentineans, one further triumph from those clashes should do the conference-clinching trick.

It would give them an important home quarter-final, and leave the rest of the SA contingent simply fighting desperately to make the finals series cut, with unfavourable (away game-dominated) seedings.

Even the Blues in lowly 13th spot overall are not yet mathematically out of the running for the playoffs, indicating just how tense the closing fortnight of ordinary season will be.

The Lions may now be the most successful in log-points terms (35) of the strictly South African sides, but they have the Bulls (34) and Sharks (33) breathing down their necks.

That said, the Durban-based team did themselves no favours by getting nothing from their fractious home tussle with the Hurricanes – a 30-17 reverse – and renewed question marks around coach Robert du Preez’s use of backline substitutions.

On present form, the KwaZulu-Natalians look unlikely bets to cross the Atlantic and topple the buoyant Jaguares on Saturday, and they then round off with what might just be one of those “only room for one” sort of tussles with the Stormers, who are stretching their squad resources to the very limits, at Newlands.

One ray of light for Robbie Fleck’s charges is that, given their present injury crisis, the Sunwolves as next opponents in Cape Town is exactly the kind of assignment on paper that you would seek, while a few bumps and bruises to certain personnel heal (though they also have a worrisome, expanding list of players confirmed out for the season).

Next weekend’s fixtures (home teams first, all kick-offs SA time):

Friday: Highlanders v Bulls, 09:35; Reds v Blues, 11:45. Saturday: Crusaders v Rebels, 09:35; Waratahs v Brumbies, 11:45; Lions v Hurricanes, 15:05; Stormers v Sunwolves, 17:15; Jaguares v Sharks, 21:40. Bye: Chiefs.

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>>>it was still a strange, unsettling spectacle to witness the likes of Kitshoff, Louw and Malherbe having to pick themselves up in undignified fashion from the deck after being buckled backwards at several scrums.

LOL!
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Selfs die eerste skrum wat Sithole teen Malherbe gesak het, het Sithole die oorhand oor Malherbe gehad. Om nie eers van die heel laaste skrum van die wedstryd te praat nie, toe dit gelyk het asof die Stormers skrum 'n 5de tru-rat gevind het so vinnig is hulle agteruit. 
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Was baie lekker om te sien! Ongelukig dink ek Rassie se bok span is klaar gekies. En daarom het ek geen hoop dat die bokke die WC gaan wen nie
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Ja ons "no name" stutte het hul "bok" stutte se name lekker gat gemaak. As ons Sadie kan teken en vir volgende jaar weer Sadie, Smith, Jonker en Sithole kan hê sal dit great wees.
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Ons stutte is awesome. Ek was nog nooit oortuig van Sithole nie, maar sy spel vandat Smith beseer was is puik. En hy is ook nog lekker jonk.
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Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Ons stutte is awesome. Ek was nog nooit oortuig van Sithole nie, maar sy spel vandat Smith beseer was is puik. En hy is ook nog lekker jonk.

Hy het verseker vir Malherbe 'n les geleer Saterdag, en dit se seker baie
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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

>>>it was still a strange, unsettling spectacle to witness the likes of Kitshoff, Louw and Malherbe having to pick themselves up in undignified fashion from the deck after being buckled backwards at several scrums.

LOL!


Is nie n strange sight vir my nie, want ekt dit al in ander games ook al gesien. Weet nie van wanneer af maak almal uit dat die Stormers so n goeie skrum het nie...
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Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

>>>it was still a strange, unsettling spectacle to witness the likes of Kitshoff, Louw and Malherbe having to pick themselves up in undignified fashion from the deck after being buckled backwards at several scrums.

LOL!


Is nie n strange sight vir my nie, want ekt dit al in ander games ook al gesien. Weet nie van wanneer af maak almal uit dat die Stormers so n goeie skrum het nie...

Kitshoff is gewoonlik 'n goeie skrummer en Louw is goed in die los vir 'n stut, maar kan nie regtig skrum nie. Malherbe kon nog nooit skrum nie en was ook nog nooit goed in die los nie.

Gqoboka en Nyakane doen ook nie sleg sover die jaar nie.


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Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

>>>it was still a strange, unsettling spectacle to witness the likes of Kitshoff, Louw and Malherbe having to pick themselves up in undignified fashion from the deck after being buckled backwards at several scrums.

LOL!


Is nie n strange sight vir my nie, want ekt dit al in ander games ook al gesien. Weet nie van wanneer af maak almal uit dat die Stormers so n goeie skrum het nie...

Kitshoff is gewoonlik 'n goeie skrummer en Louw is goed in die los vir 'n stut, maar Malhebe kon nog nooit skrum nie en was ook nog nooit goed in die los nie.

Gqoboka en Nyakane doen ook nie sleg sover die jaar nie.


Al waar Kitshoff gewoonlik uitstaan vir my is in sy algemene spel en verdediging, maar nie op stut nie. Weet nie van wanneer af beskou mense hom as n gedugte skrummer nie?
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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Ons stutte is awesome. Ek was nog nooit oortuig van Sithole nie, maar sy spel vandat Smith beseer was is puik. En hy is ook nog lekker jonk.

Hy het verseker vir Malherbe 'n les geleer Saterdag, en dit se seker baie


Ek dink Julian doen fantastiese werk met ons stutte. Ten minste een afrigter wat sy sout werd is....
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Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Ons stutte is awesome. Ek was nog nooit oortuig van Sithole nie, maar sy spel vandat Smith beseer was is puik. En hy is ook nog lekker jonk.

Hy het verseker vir Malherbe 'n les geleer Saterdag, en dit se seker baie


Ek dink Julian doen fantastiese werk met ons stutte. Ten minste een afrigter wat sy sout werd is....
Ek stem oor Julian. Ek dink eintlik ons hele afrigtingspan doen nie sleg as n mens in ag neem hoeveel ontwrigting ons al gehad het nie. Van die games wast ons verloor het was ook eerder spelers se skuld ipv afrigters. ( Aanslane, en omkeer besit ens.)
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Die Stormer skrum is net goed die eerste paar minute want hulle totale gewig is so plus minus 920kg en hulle lê net op hulle opponente. Maar as daai dik ouens begin moeg raak dan is hulle maar flou. Ek het juis gewonder hoekom Frans Malherbe so rooi in die gesig was. Seker maar omdat hy op 'n wynplaas bly??? D
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The Lions HAVE to sign Sadie as a permanent player, if he goes back to the Cape we are in serious trouble because none of our replacement props come close.
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Originally posted by Simba Simba wrote:

Die Stormer skrum is net goed die eerste paar minute want hulle totale gewig is so plus minus 920kg en hulle lê net op hulle opponente. Maar as daai dik ouens begin moeg raak dan is hulle maar flou. Ek het juis gewonder hoekom Frans Malherbe so rooi in die gesig was. Seker maar omdat hy op 'n wynplaas bly??? D

Hehe. Ek dink ou Frans se gesig raak al rooi wane hy sy tokse se veters vasmaak! Ek kannie glo daai ou is 'n bok..
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Ek is werklik nie n aanhanger van Daantjie Voortrekker (Malherbe) nie. Behalwe sy spel wat geen indruk maak nie lyk hy ook altyd asof iemand sy suigstokkie gesteel het...
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