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Emirates Lions Announcement: Swys de Bruin

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaBz0r Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-May-2019 at 3:28pm
Eks so moeg vir die Swys en Joey storie. 
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Simba Simba wrote:

Kyk ek is glad nie bly oor enige van die 2 nie. Vir my moes Joey weggejaag gewees het want hy het die Unie se naam geskaad na al die gesukkel om weer op die map te kom en goeie ruby te speel en toeskouers te lok. Die Unie se Bestuur het ook nie die saak reg hanteer nie.

Swys het vir my die skip gespring en dit het al my vertroue in hom laat verloor. Dit was te skielik vernaam toe die span hom regtig nodig gehad het. As hy dit so maklik eenkeer gedoen het kan hy dit mos sommer weer so maklik doen. Watse versekering het ons dat dit nie weer sal gebeur nie?
 
Al hierdie dinge dra ook by tot die vordering van die span. So - ek is glad nie 'n gelukkige ondersteuner nie.
I met with Rudolf today. The Lions followed processes. Joey did not mess with any female staff member of the Lions. Evidence leaves some doubt as to what actually happened between him and the lady in question. The Lions could only charge Joey with bringing the company in to disrepute. He has duly been found guilty by a competent and experienced independent labour lawyer. The Lions followed the recommendations by the lawyer. He has received a final warning plus remedial action that he has to undertake. He is deeply upset that he brought the GLRU into disrepute, and believes that he will be able to prove his innocent. Him and his family have to bear the legal costs of the case. So I think that he has received punishment enough for this.
Yet, an "independent" court in a first world country found him guilty beyond reasonable doubt... 
Those racist Aussies must have thought that the Lions will fire him and thus leave us without a quality defense coach causing us to leak tries and miss the playoffs!!! 
Oh wait....  

So it would've been different if he did it with a female GLRU employee? I don't understand the reasoning here. As Tvl said, he was found guilty in an Aus court for a sexual offence. If that is not serious enough to dismiss someone I don't know what is. 
Then he could have been charged with sexual misconduct by the GLRU. We get very emotional when it comes to sexual misconduct charges. Short and tall of it is that it is a he said/she said case. There is evidence that points to lack of animosity between Joey and his accuser. If anyone wants more clarity, contact Rudolf and allow him to explain the situation. They followed the recommendations by the labour consultant. Firing him would have opened another can of worms. 
The so called first world courts also make mistakes. I know of someone who was convicted and imprisoned in a far worse case than this. Eventually the accused was found not guilty and the courts had to release the accused. And compensate for time spent in jail. So lets not kid ourselves that everything is hunky dory with the Aus legal system, or anywhere else in the world. 



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Yes, people do get emotional regarding actions that could affect their daughters/sisters/wives. No legal system is perfect, but the reason that a civilized society has one is that there is a way of judging the guilt or innocence independently without depending on biased parties such as administrators or labor consultants.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leeubok Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2019 at 8:16am
Verbeel ek my of is daar n thread weg? Die een waar ons die huidige toestand van die unie bespreek het?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Transvaal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2019 at 8:19am
Ek moes so ruk terug skoonmaak en het toe threads verwyder waarin ons vir so 6 maande niks in gese het nie, dalk het dit so in die slag gebly. Die webwerf was oor ons toegelate spasie limiet en ek wou nie 'n groot boete betaal nie.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leeubok Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2019 at 8:39am
Nee dit was 'n thread waarop ons gister nog gechat het. Oor spelers verliese en die agteruitgang van die span se spel en so aan.. Behalwe as ek nou stupid is en dit netnie raaksien nie
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Transvaal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2019 at 8:43am
Nee het beslis nie in die laaste paar dae 'n thread delete nie, maar daar is ander mense met admin regte
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