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Match 10 - Lions vs Bulls

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Topic: Match 10 - Lions vs Bulls
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Match 10 - Lions vs Bulls
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2021 at 12:17pm
Saturday 14 August at Ellis Park, kickoff at 13:30

Lions: 15. EW Viljoen; 14. Stean Pienaar, 13. Wandisile Simelane, 12. Burger Odendaal (Capt), 11. Rabz Maxwane; 10. Jordan Hendrikse, 9. Andre Warner; 8. Travis Gordon, 7. Sibusiso Sangweni, 6. Mark Snyman, 5. Ruben Schoeman, 4. PJ Steenkamp, 3. Carlu Sadie, 2. Jaco Visagie, 1. Sti Sithole. 
Replacements: 16. PJ Botha, 17. Nathan McBeth, 18. Jannie du Plessis, 19. Oupa Mthiyane, 20. MJ Pelser, 21. Ross Cronje, 22. Dan Kriel, 23. Manuel Rass.

Bulls: 15. David Kriel, 14. Madosh Tambwe, 13. Lionel Mapoe, 12. Harold Vorster, 11. Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10. Chris Smith, 9. Keagan Johannes, 8. WJ Steenkamp, 7. Muller Uys, 6. Arno Botha – Captain, 5. Janko Swanepoel, 4. Walt Steenkamp, 3. Jacques van Rooyen, 2. Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 1. Simphiwe Matanzima.
Replacements: 16. Schalk Erasmus, 17. Gerhard Steenekamp, 18. Mornay Smith, 19. Ruan Nortje, 20.Elrigh Louw, 21. Zak Burger, 22. Johan Goosen, 23. Stedman Gans



Replies:
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2021 at 3:30pm
Wonder of daar nie al weer 'n Covid probleem is nie, het nog nie ons span gesien nie


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2021 at 3:31pm
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In a short turn around from Wednesday, Sigma Lions head coach Ivan van Rooyen has made some rotational changes to the team that will host the Vodacom Bulls at Emirates Airline Park on Saturday.

 

In the starting line-up, PJ Steenkamp will partner with Ruben Schoeman for the first time this Carling Currie Cup season, while both Travis Gordon and Mark Snyman make their starting debuts.

 

On the bench, Jannie du Plessis, MJ Pelser, Dan Kriel and Manuel Rass are all welcomed to the fray. A Currie Cup debut awaits youngster Mandisi “Oupa” Mthiyane when he takes to the field from the bench.

 

The match kicks off at 13:30.

Sigma Lions: EW Viljoen; Stean Pienaar, Wandisile Simelane, Burger Odendaal (capt.), Rabz Maxwane; Jordan Hendrikse, Andre Warner; Travis Gordon, Sibusiso Sangweni, Mark Snyman, Ruben Schoeman, PJ Steenkamp, Carlu Sadie, Jaco Visagie, Sti Sithole. Replacements: PJ Botha, Nathan McBeth, Jannie du Plessis, Oupa Mthiyane, MJ Pelser, Ross Cronje, Dan Kriel, Manuel Rass


Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2021 at 4:37pm
Eina. Pyn.


Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2021 at 4:57pm
Ew Viljoen, Dan Kriel, Manny Rass. Ai, gaan n lang dag wees.


Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 7:51am
EW Viljoen must have a sex tape that he is blackmailing Cash with, how else does he keep getting picked??? He is KAK! Rather give Henco van Wyk a chance or give Simelane chance to make the position his own

And where is Kriel??? He was supposed to be fit


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 8:32am
lol... Net toe ek dink ons is darem ontslae van EW...
Ek is nie snaaks nie, maar ek dink die Bulle gaan ons roer vandag...


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 8:40am
Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

EW Viljoen must have a sex tape that he is blackmailing Cash with, how else does he keep getting picked??? He is KAK! Rather give Henco van Wyk a chance or give Simelane chance to make the position his own

And where is Kriel??? He was supposed to be fit

Ek wonder of Kriel nie sukkel met die nagevolge van Covid nie … Cash het n week terug gesê Kriel is nie gekies agv Covid Protocol … of hy Covid gehad het weet ek nie maar party mense sukkel maar met die nagevolge van Covid

Ek dink ons gaan Kriel eers in die rugby championship sien


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 8:45am
Jaco Kriel ?


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 12:18pm
Ja Jaco Kriel, was op die bank vir die Cheetahs wedstryd en 'n hele paar veranderings is mos toe gemaak en Covid het die skuld gekry


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:22pm
Lekker koel hier op die park vandag, seker nog steeds 'n voorreg om die wedstryde te mag bywoon


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:23pm

Arno Botha will captain a much-changed Vodacom Bulls side that will take on the Sigma Lions in a Carling Currie Cup clash at Emirates Airline Park on Saturday afternoon.

Both sides are on the back of high-scoring mid-week fixtures which saw the Vodacom Bulls emerge emphatic 56-33 winners over Tafel Lager Griquas on Wednesday, while their rivals from across the Jukskei River played to a scintillating 44-44 tie with the Toyota Cheetahs.

With an expectation of a gruelling contest in Johannesburg, Vodacom Bulls director of rugby, Jake White, has opted to use the rotation policy to full effect with a total of nine changes made to the starting XV for Saturday’s clash, with the bulk of the starters from the mid-week game providing cover from the bench this weekend.

Among the changes is the half-back pairing of Keagan Johannes, at scrumhalf, and flyhalf Chris Smith who will receive starting berths. There will also be a changed front row as props Simphiwe Matanzima and Jacques van Rooyen will buckle down alongside hooker Jan-Hendrik Wessels for the clash.

Looking ahead to the game, White said: “We have yet another short turnaround from our previous match. It is therefore imperative that we utilise our squad effectively and implement our rotational policy wisely.

“We are at a crucial stage of the competition where teams are jostling for spots in the playoffs, and the Sigma Lions are very much in the race for a top four finish. Therefore, we expect them to come out guns blazing this weekend, and we will need to be on high alert and ready to counter whatever they throw at us.”

The match will kick off at 13h30 on Saturday, and it will be televised on SuperSport.

The Vodacom Bulls team to face the Sigma Lions is:

STARTERS:
15. David Kriel (Betway Centurion)
14. Madosh Tambwe (Pretoria)
13. Lionel Mapoe (Pretoria)
12. Harold Vorster (Northam)
11. Kurt-Lee Arendse (Betway Centurion)
10. Chris Smith (Harlequins)
9. Keagan Johannes (FNB Tuks)
8. WJ Steenkamp (Tuine)
7. Muller Uys (FNB Tuks)
6. Arno Botha (ABE Midas Naka Bulle) – Captain
5. Janko Swanepoel (Pretoria)
4. Walt Steenkamp (Betway Centurion)
3. Jacques van Rooyen (Tuine)
2. Jan-Hendrik Wessels (U20)
1. Simphiwe Matanzima (ABE Midas Naka Bulle)

IMPACT:
16. Schalk Erasmus (Tuine)
17. Gerhard Steenekamp (ABE Midas Naka Bulle)
18. Mornay Smith (Betway Centurion)
19. Ruan Nortje (ABE Midas Naka Bulle)
20. Elrigh Louw (FNB Tuks)
21. Zak Burger (Tuine)
22. Johan Goosen (ABE Midas Naka Bulle)
23. Stedman Gans (Northam)
24. Joe van Zyl (Harlequins)
25. Marco Jansen van Vuren (Pretoria)
26. Cornal Hendricks (Northam)
27. Stravino Jacobs (Harlequins)



Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:28pm
Ek sien nou eers die Bulle het 'n paar van hulle beste spelers op die bank gesit teen ons. 


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:29pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 0 vs #BlueBulls 0 - Kickoff!


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:30pm
Ek is die enigste siel in die media bank vandag, so die ander manne kyk by die huis op tv


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:32pm
Sadie het seergekry by die eerste skrum, dink hy's af


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:33pm
yip, niou moet jannie 77 minute speel


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:35pm
Jannie staan natuurlik 'n strafskop af by die eerste skrum waar hy sak


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:36pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 0 vs #BlueBulls 3 - 4m - PENALTY Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:38pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 3 vs #BlueBulls 3 - 7m - PENALTY Jordan Hendrikse


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:41pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 6 vs #BlueBulls 3 - 10m - PENALTY Jordan Hendrikse


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:47pm
Goeie lynbreek daar deur Simelane


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:49pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 9 vs #BlueBulls 3 - 18m - PENALTY Jordan Hendrikse


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:53pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 9 vs #BlueBulls 8 - 21m - TRY Janko Swanepoel


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:54pm
Hoe swak was daai verdediging van Rabz


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:54pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 9 vs #BlueBulls 10 - 22m - CONVERSION Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 1:56pm
EW met 'n belaglike skoppie, gaan oor die doodlyn


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:02pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 9 vs #BlueBulls 15 - 28m - TRY WJ Steenkamp


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:03pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 9 vs #BlueBulls 17 - 29m - CONVERSION Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:08pm
TMO kyk vir 'n PJ Steenkamp drie


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:08pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 14 vs #BlueBulls 17 - 33m - TRY PJ Steenkamp


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:09pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 17 - 34m - CONVERSION Jordan Hendrikse


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:17pm
17-16 ook die rustyd telling


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:36pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 22 - 45m - TRY Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:38pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 21 vs #BlueBulls 22 - 48m - TRY Burger Odendaal


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:41pm
TMO reverses the try for a forward pass


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:42pm
En dan staan Jannie weer 'n strafskop af by die skrum


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:42pm
So dit gaan oup skrums wees seker, Jannie gaan af


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

TMO reverses the try for a forward pass
Dis belaglik. Die bulle het al met n hele paar forward passes weggekom


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:44pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 27 - 50m - TRY Gerhard Steenekamp


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:45pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 29 - 50m - CONVERSION Chris Smith


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:48pm
Wessels speel met hande in die ruck maar die ref mis dit conveniently


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:55pm
Hoekom moet ons nou met 14 man speel?


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:57pm
Wiele lyk my kom nou af vir ons


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:57pm
Die game is oor as n contest. Hulle kan maar netsowel die eindfluitjoe blaas.


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:58pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 34 - 60m - TRY Johan Goosen


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 2:59pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 36 - 60m - CONVERSION Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:03pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 16 vs #BlueBulls 41 - 64m - TRY Madosh Tambwe


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:07pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 21 vs #BlueBulls 43 - 68m - TRY Nathan McBeth


Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:12pm
nuwe reel dat Lions helfde v wedstryd met 14  man moet speel omdat twee vasskoppe seer gekry het v Lions maak glad nie sin vir my

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Lions4life


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:14pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 21 vs #BlueBulls 46 - 76m - TRY Zak Burger


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:15pm
#CurrieCup - #Lions 21 vs #BlueBulls 48 - 77m - CONVERSION Chris Smith


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:20pm
ook die eindtelling


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by vdwestjo vdwestjo wrote:

nuwe reel dat Lions helfde v wedstryd met 14  man moet speel omdat twee vasskoppe seer gekry het v Lions maak glad nie sin vir my
Ek stem saam met die reel... Skelm spanne soos die Cheetahs het die vorige uncontested scrum reel uitgebuit as hulle swaar kry in die skrums... Ek kry amper die gevoel dit is wat ons probeer het, maar het toe vergeet vn die nuwe reel...
Kom ons kyk of Jannie speel in die volgende wedstryd...


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:28pm
Oms punteverskil op die log begin nou lagwekkend raak... Ons kan op 'n -100 eindig...

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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:34pm
nooit gedink ons sal ooit wen nie, maar moet se odendal was blerrie goed gewees vie my, al gedink wat die score sonder hom sou gewees het? Maar ja dis nie lekke om so naweek in naweek uit te verloor nie...something needs to change drastically 


Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:44pm
Dit begin met die coach. Game plan en strukture op aanval en verdediging is pateties.

Niks gaan verander onder die huidige coach nie



Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 3:58pm
Daar was tye in die eerste helfde waar ons pak vir lang periodes in beheer was, maar ons het slegs 3 strafskoppe daarvoor te wys. Die nuwe slot PJ Steenkamp het belowend gelyk. Agterlangs was dit net Odendaal en Simelane wat die verdediging besig gehou het. Van verdediging wasdaar soos gewoonlik min te bespeur.


Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by Lion1986 Lion1986 wrote:

Dit begin met die coach. Game plan en strukture op aanval en verdediging is pateties.

Niks gaan verander onder die huidige coach nie


Om soos Kaizer chiefs supporters net die fingers na die afrigter wys, is 'n mors van tyd. Wie ook al 'n fiksheids coach as hoofafrigter aan stel, en hom opsaal met junior en skool afrigters, is die eerste een wat moet gaan.


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by emiel1 emiel1 wrote:

Originally posted by Lion1986 Lion1986 wrote:

Dit begin met die coach. Game plan en strukture op aanval en verdediging is pateties.

Niks gaan verander onder die huidige coach nie


Om soos Kaizer chiefs supporters net die fingers na die afrigter wys, is 'n mors van tyd. Wie ook al 'n fiksheids coach as hoofafrigter aan stel, en hom opsaal met junior en skool afrigters, is die eerste een wat moet gaan.
Stem.


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 4:35pm
Dit is ook waar


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 5:31pm
Dalk is dit n geval van it has to get worse to get better. As die seisoen dan nou n gemors moet wees maak dit n ordentlike gemors. Dalk skrik die wat nou met oop oe sit en slaap wakker as die sirkus leeus die laughing stock van rugby in Europa word...


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Dalk is dit n geval van it has to get worse to get better. As die seisoen dan nou n gemors moet wees maak dit n ordentlike gemors. Dalk skrik die wat nou met oop oe sit en slaap wakker as die sirkus leeus die laughing stock van rugby in Europa word...
Dit is 'n gegewe op die stadium


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 7:38pm
SUG... 


Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2021 at 7:59pm
OuchOuchOuch

Bly ekt die ene gemis!


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 8:21am
Ek sien Rapport het n artikel oor die leeus se afrigters. Daar kom blykbaar groot veranderinge met verskillende afrigtings spanne vir die Rugbychampionship en Curriecup. Blykbaar is Cash en Sean Erasmus in die spervuur. Dalk, net dalk, het die too bestuur wakker geskrik...


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 8:27am
Soos baie mense reeds gese het, dit is onmoontlik dat die fout net by die afrigters le, baie van die spelers is nie op standaard nie. Gister was dit baie duidelik dat ons net nie op die vlak van die Bulle is nie


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 9:48am
Ek stem. Maar ek dink dat n afrigter kan help met n mental shift, iets wat Leeus rerig kort. Ek sien gister n foto waar die Bulle skrumskakel die bal laat loop, rondom die skrum is drie leeu spelers. Ons skrumskakel is besig om aan gang te kom maar die ander twee spelers, onder andere Simelane, staan hande op knee en volg bal met hulle oë. Jy hoef nie die talentvolste te wees nie maar liewe genade, wys net jy wil speel. Daardie tipe kultuur moet aangespreek word...


Posted By: LIONS4EVA
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 10:32am
Die Leeus moet ontslae raak van die volgende ouens :
Jannie du Plessis - Maak aanhoudende foute, strafskoppe, onthou die griekwas game op Ellis Park, gister 2 strafskoppe, bied niks regtig nie.
PJ Botha - het baie swak hande
Warner - begin beter speel, maar nie ons antwoord op 9 nie.
Ulengo - Het nie nog vleuels nodig nie en bied niks aan die span nie
EW Viljoen - Skokkend
Rass - wat hulle in hom sien weet ek nie.
Dan Kriel - een dimensioneel en maak foute
Visagie - geen wonder die bulle wou hom nie meer he nie.
Dreyer - leer hy nie meet sy voete so ver terug in die skrum.nie??

Wat gaan aan met die lynstane, eerste 2 gister, lyk of hulle mekaar eerste keer ontmoet. Al die spanne target ons lynstane.
Moet nie eers van verdediging praat nie, moet ons 4 of meer driee n game afstaan?


Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 10:40am
Ons spelers is beslis ook nie so fiks soos in die verlede nie en dit is totaal onaanvaarbaar want kondisionering is nie onderhandelbaar in rugby nie. 'n Speler wat nie honger is nie en nie alles gee vir sy spanmaats nie, hoort eenvoudig nie in die span nie. Dit wys gewoonlik op verdediging en ons het 'n paar spelers wat nie alles gee op verdediging nie. Die Bulle is nie op papier of talentgewys beter as ons nie maar hulle is hongerder, sterker, fikser en sit alles in vir mekaar tot die laaste fluitjie blaas.


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 11:02am
Originally posted by LIONS4EVA LIONS4EVA wrote:

Die Leeus moet ontslae raak van die volgende ouens :
Jannie du Plessis - Maak aanhoudende foute, strafskoppe, onthou die griekwas game op Ellis Park, gister 2 strafskoppe, bied niks regtig nie.
PJ Botha - het baie swak hande
Warner - begin beter speel, maar nie ons antwoord op 9 nie.
Ulengo - Het nie nog vleuels nodig nie en bied niks aan die span nie
EW Viljoen - Skokkend
Rass - wat hulle in hom sien weet ek nie.
Dan Kriel - een dimensioneel en maak foute
Visagie - geen wonder die bulle wou hom nie meer he nie.
Dreyer - leer hy nie meet sy voete so ver terug in die skrum.nie??

Wat gaan aan met die lynstane, eerste 2 gister, lyk of hulle mekaar eerste keer ontmoet. Al die spanne target ons lynstane.
Moet nie eers van verdediging praat nie, moet ons 4 of meer driee n game afstaan?

Met meeste van hierdie moet ek ongelukkig saamstem, behalwe darem seker Warner, vir nou dink ek hy is ons nommer 1 skrummie, en ons kan Dreyer hou solank dit as loskop is, hy is NIE 'n vaslop nie, en dan wil jy altwee ons hakers laat gaan, wat moeilik gaan wees want ek sien nie wie ons het om die 2 te vervang nie


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 11:08am
Maar ek kan 'n paar meer noem...Rabz druk baie driee vir ons, maar hy jaag net so lekker aan, hy staan ten minste 'n paar strafskoppe per wedstryd af, Sangweni probeer baie hard maar staan ook baie strafskoppe af.

In super Rugby was ons daai 3 seisoenne in 'n ry so suksesvol omdat ons bitter min strafskoppe afgestaan het. Begin by jou dissipline, staan net eenvoudig geen strafskoppe af nie, strafskoppe maak jou dood in rugby want dit gee momentum aan die opponent, veral as jy 2 of 3 in 'n ry afstaan, wat ons deesdae heeltemal te veel doen


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Soos baie mense reeds gese het, dit is onmoontlik dat die fout net by die afrigters le, baie van die spelers is nie op standaard nie. Gister was dit baie duidelik dat ons net nie op die vlak van die Bulle is nie
Ek stem saam. In n perfekte wereld kon ons weggekom het met dit, maar die realiteit is dat ons met n magdom eerstekeuse spelers sit wat nie speel nie, weens beserings, covid en watter ander redes ookal. Ek het geen probleem dat ons jong spelers deurbring nie, ek het ook geen probleem met die feit dat ons bou nie. Ek het selfs geen probleem met die feit dat ons n fiksheids afrigter hoofafrigter maak nie (alle goeie hoofafrigters moes tog seker erens begin). Ek het wel n probleem met die feit dat ons  in 2 jaar omtrent 10 springbokke verloor, en dan probeer ons hulle replace met ouens soos Visagie, Dan Kriel en EW. Met die salaris wat daai ouens gekry het, moes ons ten minste 5 ander Bokke (spelers op bok standaard, wat by ander unies sal begin) en 5 spelers wat ook klop aan die deur kon koop.


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:13pm
Wat ek ook moet byse, is dat ons tot op 50 minute in die game was. Ons aanval, sowel as ons defence was op daai stadium glad nie sleg nie. Daarna het die wiele begin afkom en die feit dag ons met 14 man moes speel, het glad nie gehelp nie.
Wat my verder dronkslaan, is dat ons die hele seisoen sover baie box kicks gedoen het, iets waarmee Warner regtig begin goed raak het. Ons het nie een skop op Arendse, wat duidelik ongemaklik onder die hoe bal was, gesit nie. Ek hou van Stean Pienaar, maar hy bied regtig min op vleuel, behalwe vir die feit dat hy sterk is. Hy is nie goed in die lug nie, en word gedurig op verdediging uitgevang.


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by LIONS4EVA LIONS4EVA wrote:

Die Leeus moet ontslae raak van die volgende ouens :
Jannie du Plessis - Maak aanhoudende foute, strafskoppe, onthou die griekwas game op Ellis Park, gister 2 strafskoppe, bied niks regtig nie.
PJ Botha - het baie swak hande
Warner - begin beter speel, maar nie ons antwoord op 9 nie.
Ulengo - Het nie nog vleuels nodig nie en bied niks aan die span nie
EW Viljoen - Skokkend
Rass - wat hulle in hom sien weet ek nie.
Dan Kriel - een dimensioneel en maak foute
Visagie - geen wonder die bulle wou hom nie meer he nie.
Dreyer - leer hy nie meet sy voete so ver terug in die skrum.nie??

Wat gaan aan met die lynstane, eerste 2 gister, lyk of hulle mekaar eerste keer ontmoet. Al die spanne target ons lynstane.
Moet nie eers van verdediging praat nie, moet ons 4 of meer driee n game afstaan?
Ek self is nie 'n Warner fan nie, maar hy is op die stadium ons beste 9.


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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Ek sien Rapport het n artikel oor die leeus se afrigters. Daar kom blykbaar groot veranderinge met verskillende afrigtings spanne vir die Rugbychampionship en Curriecup. Blykbaar is Cash en Sean Erasmus in die spervuur. Dalk, net dalk, het die too bestuur wakker geskrik...
Kan iemand die artikel plaas? Sal dit graag wil lees.


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Posted By: LIONS4EVA
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:52pm
Dan moet ons n top 9 koop en Warner van die bench laat speel.


Posted By: LIONS4EVA
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:55pm
Kan iemand my ook asb verduidelik, hoekom hardloop ons ouens nie mer spoed op die bal op die aanval nie? Alles word in slow motion gedoen. Ons aanval is baie baie een dimensioneel. Ons maak dinge so moeilik vir ons self, selfs 5m van die lyn af. Hendrikse moet ook sy defence op skerp, hy word gemerk in die 10 channel.


Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Originally posted by LIONS4EVA LIONS4EVA wrote:

Die Leeus moet ontslae raak van die volgende ouens :
Jannie du Plessis - Maak aanhoudende foute, strafskoppe, onthou die griekwas game op Ellis Park, gister 2 strafskoppe, bied niks regtig nie.
PJ Botha - het baie swak hande
Warner - begin beter speel, maar nie ons antwoord op 9 nie.
Ulengo - Het nie nog vleuels nodig nie en bied niks aan die span nie
EW Viljoen - Skokkend
Rass - wat hulle in hom sien weet ek nie.
Dan Kriel - een dimensioneel en maak foute
Visagie - geen wonder die bulle wou hom nie meer he nie.
Dreyer - leer hy nie meet sy voete so ver terug in die skrum.nie??

Wat gaan aan met die lynstane, eerste 2 gister, lyk of hulle mekaar eerste keer ontmoet. Al die spanne target ons lynstane.
Moet nie eers van verdediging praat nie, moet ons 4 of meer driee n game afstaan?

Met meeste van hierdie moet ek ongelukkig saamstem, behalwe darem seker Warner, vir nou dink ek hy is ons nommer 1 skrummie, en ons kan Dreyer hou solank dit as loskop is, hy is NIE 'n vaslop nie, en dan wil jy altwee ons hakers laat gaan, wat moeilik gaan wees want ek sien nie wie ons het om die 2 te vervang nie

Warner het verbeter, maar bly maar steeds baie een-diminsioneel, veral op aanval. Ek dink as die top bestuur enige verstand gehad het (iets wat tot dusver by hulle ontbreek) , dan sou hulle so spoedig moontlik op hulle kniee  gaan en 'n offer aan Ruan Pienaar maak. Ons het gister die eerste 25 minute in hulle halfgebied geboer, met meerdergeid besit en voorvoetbal, maar kon net 'n 6 punte kussing opbou. Die groot verskil was dat toe hulle die eerste keer voorvoetbal gehad het, het hulle spelskeppers in Smit, Vorster en Mapoe gehad om hulle buite agterspelers en voorspelers in gaping te sit, en dit het aangehou tot die damwalle gebreek het. Dit is ongelukkig grootliks ons verhaal van die afgelope 2 seisoene.


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 2:04pm
Laat gaan die "excess fat"... Dreyer, du Plessis, Kriel (is 'n groot fan maar glo nie hy is sy salaris werd op die stadium nie), Alberts (glo nie hy ie goedkoop nie), Ulengo, Viljoen, Dan Kriel ens....
Break the bank en kry vir Mostert en Marx terug en stel vir Stonehouse aan as Hoofafrigter. Dan kan ons miskien ten minste kompeterend wees in die URC.


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Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 9:09am
Sal liewers Franco Smith voorstel as hoofafrigter met Swys de Bruyn as tegniese adviseur. Swys is baie goed om met jong spelers te werk en die beste uit hulle te kry!

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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 10:47am
Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Laat gaan die "excess fat"... Dreyer, du Plessis, Kriel (is 'n groot fan maar glo nie hy is sy salaris werd op die stadium nie), Alberts (glo nie hy ie goedkoop nie), Ulengo, Viljoen, Dan Kriel ens....
Break the bank en kry vir Mostert en Marx terug en stel vir Stonehouse aan as Hoofafrigter. Dan kan ons miskien ten minste kompeterend wees in die URC.
Ek stem saam oor die excess fat. Dreyer sal ek nog dalk hou, want hy doen goed op loskop, en sy work rate is gewoonlik hoog. Ek is baie teleurgesteld oor Jaco Kriel. Hy het vir die 3 jaar wat hy by ons geteken het, wat seker al einde van die jaar verstryk, seker nog nie eers 5 games gespeel nie. Hy het nou weer geteken, so ek hoop ons sien hom meer in die volgende 3 jaar. Alberts was okei, maar stem saam oor die res, veral Marx en Mostert.


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Laat gaan die "excess fat"... Dreyer, du Plessis, Kriel (is 'n groot fan maar glo nie hy is sy salaris werd op die stadium nie), Alberts (glo nie hy ie goedkoop nie), Ulengo, Viljoen, Dan Kriel ens....
Break the bank en kry vir Mostert en Marx terug en stel vir Stonehouse aan as Hoofafrigter. Dan kan ons miskien ten minste kompeterend wees in die URC.
Ek stem saam oor die excess fat. Dreyer sal ek nog dalk hou, want hy doen goed op loskop, en sy work rate is gewoonlik hoog. Ek is baie teleurgesteld oor Jaco Kriel. Hy het vir die 3 jaar wat hy by ons geteken het, wat seker al einde van die jaar verstryk, seker nog nie eers 5 games gespeel nie. Hy het nou weer geteken, so ek hoop ons sien hom meer in die volgende 3 jaar. Alberts was okei, maar stem saam oor die res, veral Marx en Mostert.

Wat is Jaco Kriel se nuutste issue nouweer, by the way?


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 2:38pm
Stem 100% met alles wat tot dusver gese is. Stel 'n ordentlike coach aan en raak ontslae van spelers wat nie daar hoort nie. En soos ek al 'n paar keer gese het, the sooner the better sodat die nuwe afrigter tyd het om voor te berei vir die pro14


Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 3:10pm
dit lyk of straeuli ons nuwe coach binnekort kan wees 


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 3:21pm
Eish...


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by True loin True loin wrote:

dit lyk of straeuli ons nuwe coach binnekort kan wees 
Dit moet 'n grap wees...


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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 3:51pm
Sounds like an arsonist trying to take credit for extinguishing the fire he started.


Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2021 at 3:58pm
dis wat gelees het op DSTV SUPERSPORT, Dis nie beslis. Van rooyen's kontrak eindig in October. "significant changes to be made" 


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 6:52am
https://supersport.com/rugby/news/210816_Is_Straeuli_returning_to_coaching%20" rel="nofollow - https://supersport.com/rugby/news/210816_Is_Straeuli_returning_to_coaching

Is the former Springbok coach Rudolf Straeuli set to re-enter the coaching arena?

All indications are that the Sigma Lions will be undergoing a restructuring soon after a string of poor results and the future for coach Ivan van Rooyen does not look good at all.

While no definitive announcement has been made, the Lions have indicated they will be looking at making significant changes to their coaching team ahead of their entry into the United Rugby Championship in September.

There is no doubt the coaching results of the current team aren’t what they need to be and it is understood there is significant unhappiness with this at the moment in the Ellis Park corridors.

Add to this the fact that Van Rooyen’s contract ends in October, as well as all of his assistant coaches and it is looking more and more likely that there will be a change of guard soon.

Which begs the question, what will that change of guard look like?

Whispers have already put it that Straeuli, who has not actively coached since leaving the Springboks, will return to the coaching role, and relinquish his title as chief executive of the Lions.

This will mean he will effectively take over the role of Director of Rugby at the franchise, with former Pumas and current Ellis Park Company CEO Pieter Burger likely to take over as chief executive of the franchise.

Part of the problem at the moment is that it already just over a month before the URC starts and there is not only little time to find a replacement, but there are also very few candidates available at the moment that can be recruited.

Straeuli returning to coaching would at least help the Lions out as he is already employed while Van Rooyen’s elevation to coach, which was one of the stranger decisions to come out of Ellis Park in a while, could see him returning to the strength and conditioning role he fulfilled before being given the coaching gig.

Already there have been reports that Warren Whiteley, the former Bok captain, is set to join the Sharks as lineout coach while the futures of the rest of the coaching team is uncertain.

Straeuli told Supersport.com when asked if he was returning to coaching that there was definitely restructuring on the cards at the Lions.

“We are looking at restructuring because of the fact that the URC and Currie Cup will overlap this season. Hopefully we will have some news soon,” he said in a whatsapp message.

Van Rooyen lamented the “expensive mistakes” his side had made in their loss to the Bulls this past weekend - the Pretoria side’s biggest win in decades in Johannesburg.

“Today was a bit different than previously. Going down to 14 and losing setpiece structure and shape, we didn’t recover from that. A couple of mistakes made it tough. I can sit here and say it was debutants, but they are still representing the Lions. It doesn’t help, it doesn’t look good,” he said.

“I can’t say the same thing every time I sit here, but we are learning expensive lessons every week. The small errors are expensive.”

The Lions are sixth out of seven teams in the Currie Cup, with just two wins, three draws and five losses in their 10 games. The only side below them - the Toyota Cheetahs - is three points below them with a game in hand



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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 6:56am
Well... Glo darem nie hy kan slegter doen as Cash nie en dit is as Direkteur van Rugby, so hopelik stel hulle dan darem 'n hoofafrigter aan, maaaaaarrrrrrr.....
Ons weet dat Straeuli hou van inmeng en micro manage, so die afrigter gaan nie veel ruimte gegun word om sy eie ding te doen nie.
Kom ons kyk maar hoe die dobbelstene val...


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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 9:02am
Hierdie kan dalk in n groter disaster eindig as wat dit nou is....


Posted By: Lionsinpta
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 11:22am
Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

https://supersport.com/rugby/news/210816_Is_Straeuli_returning_to_coaching%20" rel="nofollow - https://supersport.com/rugby/news/210816_Is_Straeuli_returning_to_coaching

Is the former Springbok coach Rudolf Straeuli set to re-enter the coaching arena?

All indications are that the Sigma Lions will be undergoing a restructuring soon after a string of poor results and the future for coach Ivan van Rooyen does not look good at all.

While no definitive announcement has been made, the Lions have indicated they will be looking at making significant changes to their coaching team ahead of their entry into the United Rugby Championship in September.

There is no doubt the coaching results of the current team aren’t what they need to be and it is understood there is significant unhappiness with this at the moment in the Ellis Park corridors.

Add to this the fact that Van Rooyen’s contract ends in October, as well as all of his assistant coaches and it is looking more and more likely that there will be a change of guard soon.

Which begs the question, what will that change of guard look like?

Whispers have already put it that Straeuli, who has not actively coached since leaving the Springboks, will return to the coaching role, and relinquish his title as chief executive of the Lions.

This will mean he will effectively take over the role of Director of Rugby at the franchise, with former Pumas and current Ellis Park Company CEO Pieter Burger likely to take over as chief executive of the franchise.

Part of the problem at the moment is that it already just over a month before the URC starts and there is not only little time to find a replacement, but there are also very few candidates available at the moment that can be recruited.

Straeuli returning to coaching would at least help the Lions out as he is already employed while Van Rooyen’s elevation to coach, which was one of the stranger decisions to come out of Ellis Park in a while, could see him returning to the strength and conditioning role he fulfilled before being given the coaching gig.

Already there have been reports that Warren Whiteley, the former Bok captain, is set to join the Sharks as lineout coach while the futures of the rest of the coaching team is uncertain.

Straeuli told Supersport.com when asked if he was returning to coaching that there was definitely restructuring on the cards at the Lions.

“We are looking at restructuring because of the fact that the URC and Currie Cup will overlap this season. Hopefully we will have some news soon,” he said in a whatsapp message.

Van Rooyen lamented the “expensive mistakes” his side had made in their loss to the Bulls this past weekend - the Pretoria side’s biggest win in decades in Johannesburg.

“Today was a bit different than previously. Going down to 14 and losing setpiece structure and shape, we didn’t recover from that. A couple of mistakes made it tough. I can sit here and say it was debutants, but they are still representing the Lions. It doesn’t help, it doesn’t look good,” he said.

“I can’t say the same thing every time I sit here, but we are learning expensive lessons every week. The small errors are expensive.”

The Lions are sixth out of seven teams in the Currie Cup, with just two wins, three draws and five losses in their 10 games. The only side below them - the Toyota Cheetahs - is three points below them with a game in hand





Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 1:43pm
Die artikel is nie heeltemal korrek as hulle se Streauli se laaste afrigtings job was toe hy die bokke afgerig het nie. Hy was daarna by n oorsese klub hoofafrigter, en het ook in sy tyd by die Sharks ook die o 21 of o 19 span afgerig.


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 5:36pm
"There is no doubt the coaching results of the current team aren’t what they need to be and it is understood there is significant unhappiness with this at the moment in the Ellis Park corridors."

mens sal so flippen hoop ja!


Posted By: Blou
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2021 at 8:07am
Julle kort iemand met 'n drie jaar plan.



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