Match 1 - Pumas vs Lions
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Topic: Match 1 - Pumas vs Lions
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Match 1 - Pumas vs Lions
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 5:39am
Friday 18 June in Nelspruit, kickoff 19:00
Referee: Cwengile Jadezweni Assistant Referees: Local TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen
Pumas: 15 Devon Williams, 14 Tapiwa Mafura, 13 Erich Cronje, 12 Ali Mgijima, 11 Etienne Taljaard, 10 Eddie Fouché, 9 Chriswil September, 8 Willie Engelbrecht, 7 Phumzile Maqondwana, 6 Francois Kleinhans, 5 Pieter Jansen van Vuren (captain), 4 Darrien Landsberg, 3 Marné Coetzee, 2 Simon Westraadt, 1 Corne Fourie. Replacements: 16 Dewald Maritz, 17 Eduan Swart, 18 Ignatius Prinsloo, 19 Brandon Valentine, 20 Daniel Maartens, 21 Ginter Smuts, 22 Matt Moore, 23 Liam Hendricks.
Lions: 15. EW Viljoen; 14. Jamba Ulengo, 13. Manuel Rass, 12. Dan Kriel, 11. Rabz Maxwane; 10. Fred Zeilinga, 9. Dillon Smit; 8. Francke Horn (Capt), 7. Vincent Tshituka, 6. Sibusiso Sangweni, 5. Reinhard Nothnagel, 4. Willem Alberts, 3. Carlu Sadie, 2. PJ Botha, 1. Nathan McBeth. Replacements: 16. Morne Brandon, 17. Banele Mthenjane, 18. Ruan Dreyer, 19. Ruhan Straeuli, 20. Emmanuel Tshituka, 21. Ross Cronjé, 22. Aidynn Cupido, 23. Duncan Matthews.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 8:38am
Kan nie sien hoe ons die een kan verloor nie. Pumas het lanklaas gespeel en moet sekerlik verroes wees.
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 8:57am
Flip, ek hoop jy's is reg. Ek het nie so goeie gevoel nie.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 12:02pm
Horn to lead Lions in Mbombela
The Lions will travel to Mbombela this weekend where they will face old foes, the New Nation Pumas in the first round of South Africa’s oldest and most prestigious competition, the Carling Currie Cup.
Lions head coach, Ivan van Rooyen, has picked a side filled with experience and youth, which will be captained by Francke Horn, who has returned from injury.
Exciting youngsters like Morne Brandon, Banele Mthenjane, Ruhan Straeuli, Emmanuel Tshituka and Aidynn Cupido will all look to make their debuts from the bench.
“We look forward to an exciting Currie Cup season, where we will play matches with very short turn-around times. Our next match will already be on Wednesday, 23 June at Emirates Airline Park when we will host DHL Western Province,” Rudolf Straeuli, CEO of Lions Rugby Company commented.
The match kicks off at 19:00.
Lions: EW Viljoen; Jamba Ulengo, Manuel Rass, Dan Kriel, Rabz Maxwane; Fred Zeilinga, Dillon Smit; Francke Horn (capt) , Vincent Tshituka, Sibusiso Sangweni, Reinhard Nothnagel, Willem Alberts, Carlu Sadie, PJ Botha, Nathan McBeth. Replacements: Morne Brandon, Banele Mthenjane, Ruan Dreyer, Ruhan Straeuli, Emmanuel Tshituka, Ross Cronjé, Aidynn Cupido, Duncan Matthews
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 12:08pm
Span opgedateer in die eerste pos
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 12:16pm
Wedstryd beamptes opgedateer. Weet nie wanneer laas SARU nie die lynregters vir Curriebeker aangestel het nie
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 12:31pm
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 2:28pm
WitBoer wrote:
Kan nie sien hoe ons die een kan verloor nie. Pumas het lanklaas gespeel en moet sekerlik verroes wees. | Ek dink die grootste fout wat ons kan maak is om die Puma span te onderskat.
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 3:02pm
Krappies? Hendricks? Pelser? Roelof Smit? Odendaal? Visagie?
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 3:18pm
valie wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Kan nie sien hoe ons die een kan verloor nie. Pumas het lanklaas gespeel en moet sekerlik verroes wees. | Ek dink die grootste fout wat ons kan maak is om die Puma span te onderskat. | Met daai spankeuse het ons hul beslis klaar onderskat. Of is dit agv manne wie nie kan speel nie agv Covid?
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 3:44pm
Attie Karate wrote:
valie wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Kan nie sien hoe ons die een kan verloor nie. Pumas het lanklaas gespeel en moet sekerlik verroes wees. | Ek dink die grootste fout wat ons kan maak is om die Puma span te onderskat. | Met daai spankeuse het ons hul beslis klaar onderskat. Of is dit agv manne wie nie kan speel nie agv Covid? | Ek dink isolasie agv die Covid gevalle is die rede vir die grootskaalse veranderinge.
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Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 4:15pm
Corne Fourie terug waar hy begin het
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Posted By: Chris
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 4:17pm
Ek lees nou net op Facebook dat Hacjivah Dayimani en Wiehan Herbst word geleen aan die WP en Sharks onderskeidelik.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 4:21pm
Ek het gesien Herbst speel by die Sharks maar het gehoop dis permanent. hy is maar akker
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Posted By: Chris
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 4:22pm
Hiermee kan ek nie stry nie
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2021 at 4:23pm
Onthou die turnaround tussen wedstryde is KORT, ons speel Woensdag weer teen WP
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Posted By: Scrubba
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:21am
Currie cup will run alongside the United Rugby Champ from September correct ? means we need a squad of 60 odd players.... or will curie cup be doen by the time that comp starts ?
Worried about Dayimani... once he has tasted the fruits of the cape i fear we wont be seeing him again.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:43am
I think they plan to wrap up the Currie Cup before URC starts
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Posted By: L13
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:19am
Sadly his contract is up at the end of the currie cup so this "loan" isn't really a loan. It's him starting at WP/Stormers. Serious loss for the Lions, I don't think there is another player in SA right now with his size, speed and skill. Actually makes me so angry thinking about how our "talented" coach is throwing away the incredible group of juniors we had over the last 3 years.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:46am
L13 wrote:
Sadly his contract is up at the end of the currie cup so this "loan" isn't really a loan. It's him starting at WP/Stormers. Serious loss for the Lions, I don't think there is another player in SA right now with his size, speed and skill. Actually makes me so angry thinking about how our "talented" coach is throwing away the incredible group of juniors we had over the last 3 years. | I hear and feel your frustration. I also think Dayimane has got loads of potential. Unfortunately he tends to sometimes disappear in games, and it seems like he doesnt like defending that much.
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:56am
valie wrote:
L13 wrote:
Sadly his contract is up at the end of the currie cup so this "loan" isn't really a loan. It's him starting at WP/Stormers. Serious loss for the Lions, I don't think there is another player in SA right now with his size, speed and skill. Actually makes me so angry thinking about how our "talented" coach is throwing away the incredible group of juniors we had over the last 3 years. | I hear and feel your frustration. I also think Dayimane has got loads of potential. Unfortunately he tends to sometimes disappear in games, and it seems like he doesnt like defending that much. |
He had a couple of good moments, but he never lived up to the hype. Not a huge loss. We have very good loosies
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 10:02am
Niela wrote:
valie wrote:
L13 wrote:
Sadly his contract is up at the end of the currie cup so this "loan" isn't really a loan. It's him starting at WP/Stormers. Serious loss for the Lions, I don't think there is another player in SA right now with his size, speed and skill. Actually makes me so angry thinking about how our "talented" coach is throwing away the incredible group of juniors we had over the last 3 years. | I hear and feel your frustration. I also think Dayimane has got loads of potential. Unfortunately he tends to sometimes disappear in games, and it seems like he doesnt like defending that much. |
He had a couple of good moments, but he never lived up to the hype. Not a huge loss. We have very good loosies |
He has it in him to be great, but it seems not to be working out at the Lions for him. Injuries at crucial times, playing with niggles, too much media hype, etc play havoc on young, promising players.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 10:06am
Back to the game.
Ek voel ons gaan basics baie goed moet doen en amper ñ perfekte game moet speel om te wen. Goeie geleentheid vir baie spelers om hand op te steek, want die spelers wat uit is met covid gaan nie vinnig weer speel nie.
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Posted By: Tiny
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 11:57am
Ons was nog die hele jaar verroes as jy my vra. Hoe sterk ons diepte is of groep is om CB te wen sal ons later weet. Ek like baie van die nuwe manne, hopelik kan ons bietjie beserings vry gaan. Bietjie tyd om meer as een game in n ry te wen.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:06pm
Hoe kan ons nie ñ borg kry vir die CC nie?
En moenie my kom vertel van covid nie...
Swak, vernederend.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:08pm
Pateties daar deur Maxwane. Sulke twak hoort nie op hierdie vlak. Hy beter regmaak.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:27pm
Kan iemand my sê wat EW Viljoen ons bied?
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:31pm
Nie veel.
Sjoe, maar ons is swak op die aanval. Steeds 1 - 1.
Balretensie is baie goed, maar dit help nie as niemand pass en elke 1st receiver gaan net in kontak in nie.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:33pm
Sangweni druk eerste drie
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:50pm
Al weer 'n paar sagte oomblikke wat ons seermaak
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:51pm
Dink julle die "bestuur" sal wakker skrik as ons hier verloor? Ek twyfel.... Dink ons sal so aan ploeter totdat ons uit die Pro14 ,of wat ookal dit nou genoem word, geskop word....
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:52pm
18-10 vir die Pumas rustyd
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:54pm
Fourie sit lekker vir Sadie ore aan in die skrums, ai.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:54pm
Ons lyk maar swak sover. 2 keer al n man aan die buotekant gehad wat nie gemerk is nie en elke keer breek ons binnetoe. Lyk nie of die manne mekaar vertrou nie.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:55pm
Ons kry pak in die skrums en dit gee goeie momentum vir die Pumas. Help ook nie dat ons onbesonne dinge aanvang nie, EW Viljoen se aanslaan, Zeilinga se aanslaan, Kriel se swak skop veldop...alles dinge wat ons kos
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:59pm
klink my ek mis niks nie..
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 7:59pm
Blameer dit maar op swak bestuur, swak afrigter of swak spelers. Maak nie saak nie. Vir my is almal nie op standaard op hierdie stadium nie.
Als is Covid se skuld. ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:05pm
Ek dink partymal spandeer die afrigters meer tyd aan bewegings as aan die basics dis waar als begin en dit is waar ons groot probleem le
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:12pm
gertjie0000 wrote:
Ek dink partymal spandeer die afrigters meer tyd aan bewegings as aan die basics dis waar als begin en dit is waar ons groot probleem le | Ek glo ook ons spelers is eenvoudig nie goed genoeg nie. So eenvoudig soos dit.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:16pm
Dreyer op vir Sadie op vaskop.... Kan hy swakker doen as wat Sadie so vêr gedoen het?
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:17pm
Gelukkig is Fourie af...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:18pm
ons het 30 minute om die een te red, hoop maar ons skrik wakker
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:19pm
WitBoer wrote:
Gelukkig is Fourie af... | Jinne daai het seer gelyk, hoop hy is oraait.
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:26pm
Wat vir my shocking is ons kom uit n kompetisie waar die pumas nie rerag gespeel het nie en hulle sit ons so ore aan
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:29pm
gertjie0000 wrote:
Wat vir my shocking is ons kom uit n kompetisie waar die pumas nie rerag gespeel het nie en hulle sit ons so ore aan |
Jip... Dit wys ons nou mooi waar ons is.... Kan ons die Griquas wen?
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:30pm
ek voel net die hele bestuur en afrigting set ons op vir disaster
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:30pm
Nie seker witboer jy vra my vas hoor
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:31pm
30-10...wat 'n verleentheid
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:33pm
N ding wat stonehouse en akkers in gemeen het albei weet hoe om talent raak te sien want hulle sit met min geld en kyk selfs faf het daar begin
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:35pm
Hier is ñ hele paar spelers wie regtig hard probeer en hulle gatte af jol (meestal voorspelers), dan is daar ñ paar wie nou regtig nie in ons span hoort nie (meestal agterspelers).
Dratiese veranderings is nodig. Gou.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:36pm
Attie Karate wrote:
Hier is ñ hele paar spelers wie regtig hard probeer en hulle gatte af jol, dan is daar ñ paar wie nou regtig nie in ons span hoort nie.
Dratiese veranderings is nodig. Gou. |
Begin by die bestuur en werk ondertoe...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:39pm
True loin wrote:
ek voel net die hele bestuur en afrigting set ons op vir disaster | Dit voel so- stel afrigter aan wie nog nooit afgerig het nie; koop spelers wie nie presteer het by hul vorige spanne nie.
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:43pm
Ek dink leeus moet kyk na n ou soos stonehouse ja ek weet hy kan n moeilike ou wees maar net so dink ek kan Jake dieselfde ou wees maar hulle kry die resultate
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:47pm
gertjie0000 wrote:
Ek dink leeus moet kyk na n ou soos stonehouse ja ek weet hy kan n moeilike ou wees maar net so dink ek kan Jake dieselfde ou wees maar hulle kry die resultate |
Wwl... Stonehouse met sy "no names" het ons vandag mooi gewys hoe rugby gespeel moet word...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:47pm
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:51pm
Ek het dit nogal oorweeg om so duisend op die Pumas te sit toe los ek dit liewers want het nogal gedink ons kan dit doen is spuit ek kon so 3000 gemaak het
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 8:54pm
Patetiese vertoning. Duidelik het ons die Pumas lelik onderskat.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:04pm
Nee ffs... Kan ona asb 'n afrigter kry wat ten minste al 'n Hoërskool se 1ste span afgerig het... Fanie Schoonraad by Hoêrskool Jan Viljoen sal ten minste die spelers kry om in hulself te glo....
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:05pm
Ek het tot dusver op die draad gesit wanneer dit kom by ons afrigting span. Maar na vanaand is ek oortuig, ons kort verandering, en ons kort dit NOU!
En nie net afrigters nie, spelers ook!
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:07pm
Nuwe afrigters moet NOU aangestel word sodat hul kan begin voorberei vir die United rugby championship
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Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:12pm
presies my punt, hoe kan ons afrigting span hul so onderskat, dit se..
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:13pm
Miskien nou tyd om soos die Kaizer Chiefs supporters Ellispark toe te march... Al 10 van ons wat oorbly...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:13pm
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:24pm
WitBoer wrote:
Kan iemand my sê wat EW Viljoen ons bied? |
Ek wou die selfde vraag vra oor Ulengo, Kriel en Zeilinga (en dan het ons nog na twee jaar Dunvan Mathews nog op die boeke). Dan laat gaan ons Dayimani, wie tensy sy tekortkominge, 'n beter spelskepper as enige iemand wat vanaand in die Leeu trui gespeel het.
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:26pm
Leeubok wrote:
Nuwe afrigters moet NOU aangestel word sodat hul kan begin voorberei vir die United rugby championship |
Ek dink ons probleme le baie dieper as net afrigting
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:29pm
emiel1 wrote:
Leeubok wrote:
Nuwe afrigters moet NOU aangestel word sodat hul kan begin voorberei vir die United rugby championship |
Ek dink ons probleme le baie dieper as net afrigting |
Dit sal ten minste n begin wees
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 9:44pm
Absolutely pathetic performance by the Lions, it just shows what a well coached team can do.. Jimmy Stonehouse needs to be brought into the Lions union..
Corne Fourie couldn't push a shopping trolley down an escalator when playing for the Lions, now all of a sudden he is pushing Carlu Sadie backwards.. WTF?
Maxwane needs to take a lot of the blame for this loss, if he had've jotted down that try all the momentum would've been with us.
Lastly, are there no beter players available than EW Viljoen and PJ Botha??? FFS they suck
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Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 10:17pm
Leeus het hul Springbokke gemis
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 11:21pm
Daar is ñ paar manne wie wel hul harte uit gespeel het vanaand. Sangweni, beide Tshitukas, Horn, Smit, Rass het hard probeer. Cupido was ons beste speler en hy het so kort rukkie gespeel.
Al ding wat my meer geskok het as ons planloosheid op die aanval is dat ons nie ñ borg het nie.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 11:24pm
OomPB wrote:
Leeus het hul Springbokke gemis | Toe Alberts af gaan het daar sommer alklaar koppe begin hang.
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 18-Jun-2021 at 11:40pm
Leeubok wrote:
emiel1 wrote:
Leeubok wrote:
Nuwe afrigters moet NOU aangestel word sodat hul kan begin voorberei vir die United rugby championship |
Ek dink ons probleme le baie dieper as net afrigting |
Dit sal ten minste n begin wees |
Ek dink dit sal nie eers 'n begin wees nie. Op wat ons tot dusver gesien het die afgelope jaar en half teen gemiddelde opposisie, het ons dalk 'n dosyn (en dis 'n baie optimistiese skatting) of wat spelers wat internasionaal kan kompeteer, met dalk nog so half dosyn wat potensiaal om te onwikkel. Ons sit voorlangs met 'n paar belowende maar baie groen spelers, terwyl ons agterlangs probeer kompiteer met spelers wat dit nerens anders kon maak nie. Selfs Jake White sou kwalik enige iets kom uitrig met die lot.
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Posted By: L13
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 12:26am
Once again - no obvious game plan and no pattern of play from the lions. We beat the odd "big" team mostly because of individual brilliance or because the game becomes fast and loose. We all want to think that we've turned the corner but the reality is the result is just down to luck. Against composed teams we get thrashed.
Some perspective - Cash is the longest serving coach at any of the "big" unions, yet our team looks like it is still trying to find their style and game plan. By now we should know exactly what the lions will do on attack and defense. How they will set up and what they will look to do with and without the game....and yet we don't because it seems to change every game. This teams has no identity.
The majority of the players are good enough. And in a good system even average players look good. Coaches should develop players but our players don't develop or even get worse. Now, just like 10 years ago if you want to be a bok you can't play for the lions. Tambwe and Green were the start, Dayimani following and soon all our good youngsters will leave. Because who wants to play for clueless coach, in a losing team, with no hope of a springbok call up.
How do we turn up the heat on management? Who do we email or petition? Because this rot needs to stop.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 8:38am
"How do we turn up the heat on management? Who do we email or petition? Because this rot needs to stop."
I'd support a petition for change. Last night was just unacceptable. We are the laughing stock of sa rugby. I see rugby 365 is already making fun of us
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 8:46am
Dis nie die verloor wat mens moerig maak nie.. het gedink dit gaan moeilik gaan in Nelspruit met 8 van ons beginspelers uit. Dis dat dit nie lyk of die ouens weet hoe om aan te val nie en die skokkende basics met tye!! Ons het eintlik die eerste helfte oorheers, maar steeds tandeloos gelyk met die bal in die hand en keer op keer besit onnodig afgestaan. Baie frustrerend om te kyk na so geploeter.
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 10:33am
Leeubok wrote:
"How do we turn up the heat on management? Who do we email or petition? Because this rot needs to stop."
I'd support a petition for change. Last night was just unacceptable. We are the laughing stock of sa rugby. I see rugby 365 is already making fun of us | They can take our players, but they will never take our prideeeeee. Viva revolution
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Posted By: L13
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 11:20am
@Goue Leeu that's the issue. Losses happen, it's part of the process. Heck the Bulls lost to us a few weeks ago. The problem we have is - win or lose we have no game plan or structure. And from a coaching team that has been place for 2 or more seasons that is unacceptable.
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 1:02pm
dink met al die artikels van hoe “kak” ons was, sal daar genoeg druk op hulle wees om iets te doen. Of miskien nie 😂 wat n grap!
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2021 at 5:51pm
Bietjie iets anders ek sien Harlequins het vir bristol geupset in die semis en tyron green twee drie gedruk hulle was 28-0 agter tpe draw hulle toe druk tyron in ekstra tyd een van hulle twee driee het gedink hulle gaan pakslae kry
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 6:51am
Goue Leeu wrote:
Dis nie die verloor wat mens moerig maak nie.. het gedink dit gaan moeilik gaan in Nelspruit met 8 van ons beginspelers uit. Dis dat dit nie lyk of die ouens weet hoe om aan te val nie en die skokkende basics met tye!! Ons het eintlik die eerste helfte oorheers, maar steeds tandeloos gelyk met die bal in die hand en keer op keer besit onnodig afgestaan. Baie frustrerend om te kyk na so geploeter. | Presies, ons het geboer in hul kwartgebied. Geen dringendheid en rigting van die agterspelers, want jul weet nie wat om te doen nie.
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Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 7:17am
Julle het n goeie kans teen WP woensdag.
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 8:47am
Met 'n sterker span beskikbaar het ons seker 'n kans Woensdag, maar ek sal nie geld daarop sit nie.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 10:29am
Leeubok wrote:
"How do we turn up the heat on management? Who do we email or petition? Because this rot needs to stop."
I'd support a petition for change. Last night was just unacceptable. We are the laughing stock of sa rugby. I see rugby 365 is already making fun of us | Ek stem saam dat ons druk op die bestuur moet sit.Hier is die epos wat ek via die Lions website vir Rudolph gestuur het:
Beste Rudolph
As 'n getroue Transvaal/Leeus/Goue Leeus ondersteuner vir meer as 30 jaar al, wil ek graag n paar goed van my hart af kry.
Eerstens baie dankie vir die harde werk wat jy en jou span, ten spyte van baie moeilike omstandighede doen om Leeu Rugby lewendig en gesond te probeer hou. Wanneer n span deur n moeilike tyd gaan, moet dit n baie ondankbare werk wees wat julle doen.
Dit bring my by die volgende punt: Ons (en ek se "ons", want vir Leeu ondersteuners is die unie en span soos familie) huidige vorm:
1. Die span maak aanhoudend basiese foute, wat ons wedstryde kos.
2. Vaste fasette is sub standaard. Skrums is 1 week goed en volgende week swak. Om van lynstane nie eers te praat nie. Kortliks - dit lyk nie of die ouens dit ooit oefen nie, as mens dit moet vergelyk met die ander spanne.
3. Die sisteem by die leeus. Volgens wat ek waarneem by ander unies is daar oor al die spanne in n unie n gemeenskaplike brand of spelpatroon, maw as n speler van n laer span af inkom weet hy presies wat om te doen. By ons lyk die spelers wat inkom heeltemal uit hul diepte uit.
4. Spelers bestuur. Spelers word by ons nie gekies nie, en gaan na ander unies toe om daar te gaan uitblink en kans staan om Bokke te word, soos Madosh Tambwe, James Venter ens. Dis onrusbarend om te hoor van Malcolm Marx wat een van die beste spelers in die wereld is, wat wil terug kom SA toe en nie dadelik deur ons genader word om terug huis toe te kom nie, maar met WP onderhandel.
5. Die spelers se attitude: dit lyk nie of daar enige "fight" in die span is nie. Is daar dan geen trots meer in die trui nie? As jy dit vergelyk met n span soos Griekwas wat, al is hulle n baie kleiner unie as ons, ten minste lyk of hulle wil speel, lyk dit of daar n klomp van ons spelers net daar is vir die geld.
6. Speler kontraktering: Ons het tans genoeg vleuels in ons unie vir ongeveer 4 spanne, maar steeds hou ons aan om vleuels te koop, dit terwyl ons duidelik n probleem op slot het.
Ek wil nie net kritiseer nie, maar is daar enige vorm van accountability vir die gemors waarna ons teen die Pumas moes kyk? Dit was n donker dag vir Leeu rugby. Wat gaan die bestuur doen om seker te maak dit gebeur nie weer nie?
Ek is betrokke by n online forum waar Leeu ondersteuners bymekaarkom, en hoewel ek nie noodwendig daarmee saamstem nie, is die algemene gevoel dat die afrigting span nie opgewasse is nie, en moet hulle vervang word of daar moet n tipe van direkteur van afrigting aangestel word, om die leiding te neem. Dit moet natuurlik n ervare afrigter met n bewese rekord wees.
Ekself glo die afrigting span moet die kans gegee word om dinge reg te stel, en dat ons as ondersteuners die groter plan moet kans gee om te ontvou (ek hoop daar is so iets), maar ek hoor al van ondersteuners wat n epos vir die borge wil stuur om in te gryp.
Van borge gepraat - ek hoop ek is verkeerd, maar dit lyk nie of ons n borg vir die Curriebeker reeks het nie. Nog n rede om ons vorm n prioriteit te maak. Niemand gaan hulle naam wil koppel aan dit wat ons Vrydagaand teen die Pumas gesien het nie.
Ek het nou klaar gekla, en wil graag die span alle sterkte toewens met die eerskomende week se wedstryd teen die WP. Hopelik speel die spelers tot hul potensiaal en spring die bal n slag vir ons reg. Ons het regtig nodig om n wen kultuur te begin kweek.
Sterkte.
Leeu Groete
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 10:56am
Goue Leeu wrote:
Met 'n sterker span beskikbaar het ons seker 'n kans Woensdag, maar ek sal nie geld daarop sit nie. | Ek glo nie ons gaan ñ soveel sterker span hê nie. Sommigge mense kom nie so vinnig oor covid nie.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 12:00pm
Valie, baie goeie epos daai van jou. Laat weet of jy enige terugvoering kry
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 1:04pm
Valie , ek dink jy kan aansoek doen vir 'n diplomatiese pos met so 'n brief. Persoonlik dink ek nie daar is die kundigheid op administratiewe vlak of afrigtingsvlak nie in die land nie, en ons het het nie die geld on 'n bekwame internasionale afrigter te bekostig nie. Ek dink dit was net Johan van Graan en JP Ferreira met Munster wat impak op Europese vlak kom maak (ek dink JP Ferreira se rol in Ackerman se sukses is totaal onderskat).
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 1:09pm
Leeubok wrote:
Valie, baie goeie epos daai van jou. Laat weet of jy enige terugvoering kry | Dankie ek maak so. Ek glo nie ek gaan dadelik terugvoer kry nie, want ek dink nie my epos is die enigste een in Rudolph se inbox nie, maar ek post dit hier sodra ek iets kry.
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2021 at 4:33pm
emiel1 wrote:
(ek dink JP Ferreira se rol in Ackerman se sukses is totaal onderskat).
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Stem, die dream team daai. Nie n klomp wat hier en daar iets wil doen of na kyk nie.
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Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 10:29am
Is Edwil vd Merwe al by die Leeus?
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 11:21am
OomPB wrote:
Is Edwil vd Merwe al by die Leeus? | Nee, hy kom eers na die CC, as ek reg is.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 2:21pm
Ek sit nou so en dink... Ek weet nie of ek kans sien om gou weer 'n wedstryd te kyk nie... Dit is regtigwaar vernederend vir die "brand" om sulke vertonings te lewer. Gn wonder niemand stel belang om ons te borg nie... Ek weet ook nie of ek die URC gaan volg wanneer dit begin nie... As ons beste span (Bulle) so verneder word deur een van die Pro14 se swakker spanne, gaan ons deelname in die kompetiese in 'n nagmerrie ontaard... Ek hoop eerlikwaar dat SA Rugby eerder maar besluit om ons en die Cheetahs in 'n kwalifiserende wedstryd te laat speel vir 'n plek in die URC.
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 3:24pm
WitBoer wrote:
Ek sit nou so en dink...Ek weet nie of ek kans sien om gou weer 'n wedstryd te kyk nie... Dit is regtigwaar vernederend vir die "brand" om sulke vertonings te lewer. Gn wonder niemand stel belang om ons te borg nie... Ek weet ook nie of ek die URC gaan volg wanneer dit begin nie... As ons beste span (Bulle) so verneder word deur een van die Pro14 se swakker spanne, gaan ons deelname in die kompetiese in 'n nagmerrie ontaard... Ek hoop eerlikwaar dat SA Rugby eerder maar besluit om ons en die Cheetahs in 'n kwalifiserende wedstryd te laat speel vir 'n plek in die URC. |
Dis nie asof die Cheetahs veel beter doen as ons nie. In hul laaste 2 westryde het hul teen daai invitational span verloor, en daarna teen nog iemand, kan nou nie onthou wie nie. Maar ek onthou albei was baie vernederend
Ek sien nogsteeds uit na die URC. Ek dink die bulls het maar net 'n baie k@k af dag gehad. Hulle, sharks en wp behoort redelik goed te doen dink ek. Die leeus, ja ek weti...
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 4:20pm
Attie Karate wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Leeus het hul Springbokke gemis | Toe Alberts af gaan het daar sommer alklaar koppe begin hang. | Alberts is uit vir die res van die CC. Ag fork! Sterkte!
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 4:24pm
Attie Karate wrote:
Attie Karate wrote:
OomPB wrote:
Leeus het hul Springbokke gemis | Toe Alberts af gaan het daar sommer alklaar koppe begin hang. | Alberts is uit vir die res van die CC. Ag fork! Sterkte! | Ek sien Michael Rhodes gaan weg by Saracens. Hy is 33. Hy speel baie soos Mostert, net n bietjie meer agressief. Miskien kan hy kom uithelp op slot.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 4:41pm
Sou Jaco kriel nie weer Junie begin speel nie?
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Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2021 at 5:18pm
Eks bekommerd oor woensdag se wedstryd.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 22-Jun-2021 at 8:01am
OomPB wrote:
Eks bekommerd oor woensdag se wedstryd. | Bekommerd of jul met 50 punte gaan wen of nie ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 22-Jun-2021 at 11:06pm
Ek sien Cash se op die pers video dat daar harde woorde gepraat is na die puma game.
Wat ook i teressant was is dat hy genoem het dat die span in die laaste 3 weke net 4 keer kon oefen agv omstandighede. Ek neem aan dit was covid related. Geen wonder ons het so gesukkel in die vaste fasette nie...
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Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2021 at 6:30am
valie wrote:
Ek sien Cash se op die pers video dat daar harde woorde gepraat is na die puma game.
Wat ook i teressant was is dat hy genoem het dat die span in die laaste 3 weke net 4 keer kon oefen agv omstandighede. Ek neem aan dit was covid related. Geen wonder ons het so gesukkel in die vaste fasette nie... |
Lyk vir my meer asof hulle die laaste 3 jaar nie meer oefen nie
Dit sal intresant wees om die statestiek te sien hoeveel van hulle games teen die WP Bulle en Sharks hulle die laaste 3 jaar gewen het ... sekerlik minder as 30%
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