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BULLSFAMILY WELCOMES JAKE WHITE

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Topic: BULLSFAMILY WELCOMES JAKE WHITE
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: BULLSFAMILY WELCOMES JAKE WHITE
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2020 at 4:40pm
https://bullsrugby.co.za/bullsfamily-welcomes-jake-white/?fbclid=IwAR216MED4xLezVJE1-3XtaT7MSkDlwSKmbqh0ze8WIzwTnNajp6apMg8kes" rel="nofollow - https://bullsrugby.co.za/bullsfamily-welcomes-jake-white/?fbclid=IwAR216MED4xLezVJE1-3XtaT7MSkDlwSKmbqh0ze8WIzwTnNajp6apMg8kes

The Blue Bulls Company are excited to confirm that Jake White has signed on as Director of Rugby and will be officially joining the #BullsFamily effective immediately until the 2023 World Cup.

The former Springbok coach and Rugby World Cup winner assumes the position vacated by Alan Zondagh, who stepped down earlier this year.

White has recently been coaching the Toyota Verblitz in Japan and joins the Vodacom Bulls with over four decades of coaching experience stretching back to the early 1980s. His global experience at the highest levels, particularly in Vodacom Super Rugby as the former head coach of both the Cell C Sharks and Brumbies, will benefit the Vodacom Bulls as they continue to add to their resources.

Blue Bulls Company CEO, Alfonso Meyer, shared his sentiments on White’s impending arrival.

“We are extremely excited with Jake’s decision to join us. His credentials speak for itself and we know his contributions are only going to improve our rugby across the board. Jake’s appointment is yet another step in the right direction as we endeavour to take this brand into a new era. We wish him well in his new role,” said Meyer.

White expressed his eagerness at getting the ball rolling, “The Vodacom Bulls brand has always been a powerhouse in rugby, and respected around the world. There’s a great history and heritage here, and I’m looking forward to adding my contribution to the Bulls’ legacy. The shareholders, Remgro, Patrice Motsepe and the BBRU, together with the staff, have an amazing ambition to not only take the Bulls back to number one, but also re-invent and re-mould the face of rugby in this country.”

White is a straight forward man, and didn’t sugar coat the need to start winning, “We need to re-build a winning culture at Loftus, and that will no doubt bring the fans back to their beloved Loftus Versfeld. This won’t be easy, but we are up for it.”

The former Bok coach is also keen to do his bit to indirectly contribute to the national setup, “It’s no secret that our franchise rugby needs to be strong for the Boks to be strong. I’m looking forward to doing whatever it takes help keep them at number one.”




Replies:
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2020 at 4:46pm
How long will Pote last?


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2020 at 5:32pm
So its the Bulls' turn to have White for 1 season.....


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 8:31am
Either way, die bulls mik hoog. White het sy foute (soos almal maar), maar niemand kan stry hy is 'n massive signing vir hulle. 


Posted By: AK 
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 8:35am
Hierdie gaan in trane eindig


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 10:56am
Originally posted by AK  AK  wrote:

Hierdie gaan in trane eindig
Ek is geneig om dalk saam te stem.


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 11:23am
Dit mag net dalk trane van blydskap wees. White se styl sal goed pas by die Bulle. Sy strukture is baie goed en hyt n baie goeie track record.

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Posted By: AK 
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Dit mag net dalk trane van blydskap wees. White se styl sal goed pas by die Bulle. Sy strukture is baie goed en hyt n baie goeie track record.

White is `n tweede Mitchell. Gee hom genoeg tyd en dan maak hy mense kwaad en spelers draai dan teen hom.... Hy bly ook nooit lank op `n plek.... Hy skep ook altyd politiek in `n unie..... Ek kan nie sien dat dit gaan werk nie.....


Posted By: Rooibonte8
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2020 at 7:21pm
Hoeka vandag die 2011 CC final gekyk, kon nie help om the sien how goed ons spelers afgerig was en hoe min foute hulle gemaak het nie, onder Mitchell, ek reken daar was ander invloed in 2012. Miskien sou n Mitchell weer die huidige slapgat Leeu span regruk


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2020 at 7:49am
Of White die regte aanstelling vir die Bulle is of nie, een ding is seker, die bulle sy bestuur het ambisie en skroom nie om die beste afrigter te soek vir hulle span nie, net 'n kwessie van tyd voor hulle weer SA se beste span is... 
Ons aan die ander kant stel onervarr afrigters aan en boonop is sy hulp afrigters ook onervare...


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2020 at 8:01am
Die Bulls haal darem geld uit in hierdie donker tye.. Miskien was Jake n bargain.. maar ek glo nie.


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2020 at 8:01am
Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Of White die regte aanstelling vir die Bulle is of nie, een ding is seker, die bulle sy bestuur het ambisie en skroom nie om die beste afrigter te soek vir hulle span nie, net 'n kwessie van tyd voor hulle weer SA se beste span is... 
Ons aan die ander kant stel onervarr afrigters aan en boonop is sy hulp afrigters ook onervare...

Stem, presies hoe ek ook daaroor voel


Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 01-Apr-2020 at 11:20am
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by WitBoer WitBoer wrote:

Of White die regte aanstelling vir die Bulle is of nie, een ding is seker, die bulle sy bestuur het ambisie en skroom nie om die beste afrigter te soek vir hulle span nie, net 'n kwessie van tyd voor hulle weer SA se beste span is... 
Ons aan die ander kant stel onervarr afrigters aan en boonop is sy hulp afrigters ook onervare...

Stem, presies hoe ek ook daaroor voel
I believe Cash has huge potential, We have some really good names in the coaching team. I believe that there is only one guy that should be replaced. I also think that the GLRU should appoint a DOR. He can align the age group and school boy coaching structures, but above all, give Cash and co a helping hand. Our 2 biggest problem areas are attack, where we just seem to lack penetration. We have lots of possession, but don't seem to know how to turn that into points at the moment. Our second area of concern is still defense. We seem to be able to defend well for periods, then lose structure and fall apart. 


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 7:26am
Lion4ever, on what basis do you believe that Cash and the rest of our coaching team are good?

They're a bunch of nice guys, yes. Home grown, couple of fan favourite ex players etc. But in terms of results on the field, there hasn't been much to write home about, has there?


Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 8:43am
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Lion4ever, on what basis do you believe that Cash and the rest of our coaching team are good?

They're a bunch of nice guys, yes. Home grown, couple of fan favourite ex players etc. But in terms of results on the field, there hasn't been much to write home about, has there?
Cash managed a CC final in his 2nd year as CC coach. Last year under Julian we had a devastating scrum, and Lemmer did well with the forwards. WW is a great motivator and tactician. Sean Erasmus has a stellar reputation as a school boy coach. Unfortunately Niel seems to be way out of his depth at the moment. What surprises me is that our fitness is not as good as it should be. We have a coaching team that under the right circumstances could develop into a formidable team. However, with the coaching teams relative inexperience and the inexperience we have among the playing staff, it is has turned into the perfect storm that has battered us as a union, team and fans.


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 9:47am
So how long would you give this team with the current results, before you start making changes? Do you sacrifice 1 SR season? 2? 2 and hope it'll get better in year 3?

I don't disagree with anything you said. I also like all of them, and I also think they all have potential. BUT I think we need a JW/Eddie Jones/Plumtree/XXXX, a head coach with international experience and a winning track record. Someone who can lead and develop the rest of our inexperienced coaching team (and players of course)


Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 10:32am
Snaaks genoeg, van al ons afrigters het nog net Joey enige sukses behaal op o/21 vlak. Die res het nog geen sukses behaal op enige vlak nie...


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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 10:39am
Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Snaaks genoeg, van al ons afrigters het nog net Joey enige sukses behaal op o/21 vlak. Die res het nog geen sukses behaal op enige vlak nie...

Eish, dis nogals ironies ne. Joey is mos terug by die leeus? In watter posisie nouweer?


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 10:48am
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Snaaks genoeg, van al ons afrigters het nog net Joey enige sukses behaal op o/21 vlak. Die res het nog geen sukses behaal op enige vlak nie...

Eish, dis nogals ironies ne. Joey is mos terug by die leeus? In watter posisie nouweer?
Ek dink hy is weer by die juniors.


Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Snaaks genoeg, van al ons afrigters het nog net Joey enige sukses behaal op o/21 vlak. Die res het nog geen sukses behaal op enige vlak nie...

Het die juniors nie iets gewen toe Neil daar was nie?


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 02-Apr-2020 at 5:10pm
Die unie het juis die juniors se swak resultate einde 2019 gebruik om van Joey en Bart ontslae te raak


Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 03-Apr-2020 at 11:19am
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

So how long would you give this team with the current results, before you start making changes? Do you sacrifice 1 SR season? 2? 2 and hope it'll get better in year 3?

I don't disagree with anything you said. I also like all of them, and I also think they all have potential. BUT I think we need a JW/Eddie Jones/Plumtree/XXXX, a head coach with international experience and a winning track record. Someone who can lead and develop the rest of our inexperienced coaching team (and players of course)
That's why I think a DOR could be the answer. Clearly Cash needs a guiding hand, and someone who can step in when things get a bit rough iro of results


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 03-Apr-2020 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

So how long would you give this team with the current results, before you start making changes? Do you sacrifice 1 SR season? 2? 2 and hope it'll get better in year 3?

I don't disagree with anything you said. I also like all of them, and I also think they all have potential. BUT I think we need a JW/Eddie Jones/Plumtree/XXXX, a head coach with international experience and a winning track record. Someone who can lead and develop the rest of our inexperienced coaching team (and players of course)
That's why I think a DOR could be the answer. Clearly Cash needs a guiding hand, and someone who can step in when things get a bit rough iro of results

Ok, that could work yes. So instead of firing Cash, just get a DOR to help guide them... But then you need someone like I suggested originally


Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 03-Apr-2020 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by Lion4ever Lion4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

So how long would you give this team with the current results, before you start making changes? Do you sacrifice 1 SR season? 2? 2 and hope it'll get better in year 3?

I don't disagree with anything you said. I also like all of them, and I also think they all have potential. BUT I think we need a JW/Eddie Jones/Plumtree/XXXX, a head coach with international experience and a winning track record. Someone who can lead and develop the rest of our inexperienced coaching team (and players of course)
That's why I think a DOR could be the answer. Clearly Cash needs a guiding hand, and someone who can step in when things get a bit rough iro of results

Ok, that could work yes. So instead of firing Cash, just get a DOR to help guide them... But then you need someone like I suggested originally
Definitely someone of that caliber


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 03-Apr-2020 at 12:16pm
A DOR seems to be a good suggestion. However I would also like to see some good signings in the playing ranks. We are very thin on good SR players with experience, and here I'm not talking about players past their prime. We could have done with a lock like Jason Jenkins.


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2020 at 8:01am
Julle het seker die naweek in die koerant gesien dat Jake White redelik baie aankope beplan. De Allende, Vrystaat se slot en nog n paar ander. Dink dit is die Remgro geld wat nou praat. Ook gesien daai wilde Vrystaat haker Dweba is oppad Frankryk toe. Glo steeds dat man is Bok materiaal...


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2020 at 12:01pm
Nie gesien nie. Maar as dit is wat hy besig is om te doen dan glo ek hy maak al klaar 'n verskil. 

Jammerte dat Dweba oorsee gaan. 


Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2020 at 9:15am
Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Julle het seker die naweek in die koerant gesien dat Jake White redelik baie aankope beplan. De Allende, Vrystaat se slot en nog n paar ander. Dink dit is die Remgro geld wat nou praat. Ook gesien daai wilde Vrystaat haker Dweba is oppad Frankryk toe. Glo steeds dat man is Bok materiaal...

Selfs ou Remgro gaan spending moet check.. ek reken die Bulle het n groot fout gemaak in hulle timing van Jake aanstel. 


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2020 at 10:59am
Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Originally posted by Vaal Leeu 3 Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:

Julle het seker die naweek in die koerant gesien dat Jake White redelik baie aankope beplan. De Allende, Vrystaat se slot en nog n paar ander. Dink dit is die Remgro geld wat nou praat. Ook gesien daai wilde Vrystaat haker Dweba is oppad Frankryk toe. Glo steeds dat man is Bok materiaal...

Selfs ou Remgro gaan spending moet check.. ek reken die Bulle het n groot fout gemaak in hulle timing van Jake aanstel. 

OF, hulle timing was perfek. Met die breek in super rugby het Jake tyd om assessments te doen in terme van waar die bulls swak doen. Soos hy al klaar begin doen het met speler aankope.. En teen die tyd wat hulle weer kan begin oefen is ek seker hy gaan 'n klomp planne in plek he. 

Ek weet hy is nie almal se cup of tea nie, en maak baie vyande waar hy gaan. Maar mens kannie stry dat hy die credentials het om 'n sukkelende span om te keer in 'n wenspan nie.


Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 21-Apr-2020 at 6:19pm
Ek Lees Jake al klaar Baie besig

Meanwhile, the report added that White could shake up the Bulls coaching staff up by luring in Russell Winter and Joey Mongalo.


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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-May-2020 at 12:25pm
Nou net op twitter gesien:

Bulls have officially unveiled Russell Winter as the team's new forwards coach.


Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 22-May-2020 at 2:09pm
Ja nee almal lui nog aan covid 19 skok maar die Bulle bou voort.... 

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Once a Lion always a lion


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 22-May-2020 at 9:34pm
Jip, baie mense het met my gestry toe ek dit oorspronklik gesê het, maar Jake White gaan baie goed doen by die Bulle. Watch this space. Mense gaan hulle woorde sluk in n jaar of twee. Jy hoef nie buddies te wees om n sukses te maak nie, maar ek glo regtig Jake se "bad" mense verhoudings is nie waar nie. Om bo uit te kom, gaan mens op ander se tone moet trap, veral die wat nie saam werk nie en dit is hierdie mense wat die stories aandra en nie wil erken die fout was by hulle nie.


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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-May-2020 at 7:45am
Jake White het 'n wereldbeker gewen, so geen manier hoe hy 'n slegte afrigter kan wees nie, dis die toppunt wat 'n rugbyafrigter kan bereik, wat kan jy beter doen?

Verder het die Leeus hom as konsultant gebruik in 2009, en dit was die einde van Eugene Eloff by die Leeus, maar in plaas daarvan om toe vir Jake die afrigter te maak, donner ons rond vir 'n paar maande met skoolafrigter Hans Coetzee in die Curriebeker en stel toe vir Dick Muir as Super Rugby afrigter vir 2010 aan, en ons almal weet wat toe gebeur het. 


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 10:22am
https://www.netwerk24.com/Sport/Rugby/kontrak-drama-marx-mag-nie-waai-se-leeus-ultimatum-vir-wp-oor-psdt-20200524" rel="nofollow - https://www.netwerk24.com/Sport/Rugby/kontrak-drama-marx-mag-nie-waai-se-leeus-ultimatum-vir-wp-oor-psdt-20200524

Weet nie of julle mense gesien het nie marx is nog nie helemal weg nie hulle betwis sy kontrak sy kontrak


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 12:02pm
En ek sien die leeus onderhandel met drie bul spelers, Burger Odendaal, Jaco Visagie en Divan Rossouw en dit lyk of die kanse goed is dat al drie leeus toe kom hulle is nie in Jake se planne nie ek dink veral Burger sal n groot aanwins vir ons wees hy het baie ondervinding en Jaco Visagie is darem beter as die twee hakers wat ons tans het


Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 12:40pm
[QUOTE=gertjie0000]En ek sien die leeus onderhandel met drie bul spelers, Burger Odendaal, Jaco Visagie en Divan Rossouw en dit lyk of die kanse goed is dat al drie leeus toe kom hulle is nie in Jake se planne nie ek dink veral Burger sal n groot aanwins vir ons wees hy het baie ondervinding en
 Jaco Visagie is darem beter as die twee hakers wat ons tans het[/QUOTE

Hoop dis waar al drie glad nie te sleg...... Ons afrigters moet net die beste uit hul bring


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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 12:56pm
Jy kan nie n speler dwing om te bly nie. Sy hart is weg, behalwe vir moontlike geld is daar geen waarde om hom te probeer dwing om te bly nie...


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 1:05pm
Ek stem Vaalleeu maar ek dink nie sy hart is weg nie hy was opgewonde om terug te kom na die leeus was dit nie vir die covid storie nie sou hy gebly het so ek dink dis maar meer n hoop dat hy dalk kon bly


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by gertjie0000 gertjie0000 wrote:

Ek stem Vaalleeu maar ek dink nie sy hart is weg nie hy was opgewonde om terug te kom na die leeus was dit nie vir die covid storie nie sou hy gebly het so ek dink dis maar meer n hoop dat hy dalk kon bly
As sy hart nie "weg" was nie, hoekom het hy dan sy kontrak gekanselleer? Nee wat, dit kan geen positiewe daarin wees om 'n speler te probeer hou wat wil gaan nie.


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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-May-2020 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by gertjie0000 gertjie0000 wrote:

Ek stem Vaalleeu maar ek dink nie sy hart is weg nie hy was opgewonde om terug te kom na die leeus was dit nie vir die covid storie nie sou hy gebly het so ek dink dis maar meer n hoop dat hy dalk kon bly
Hy wou baie graag terugkom Leeus toe, en ek glo hy sou wou bly, maar dat hy net soos Pieter Steph probeer om sy belange te beskerm. Kom ons kyk maar wat gebeur. Ek hoop hy bly.


Posted By: ROOIHART
Date Posted: 27-May-2020 at 9:58am
Ek wonder net. 

Ons is in jaar 1 van die infasering van die speler-budgets wat volgens Rassie se nuwe kontraktering-model afgedwing gaan word op unies. Binne 3 jaar moet almal daaraan voldoen. Ter verfrissing. 

- Senior squads maks 45 spelers en R60 miljoen spandering per unie.

- Junior squads : Unlimited spelers tot by R10 miljoen.

Wonder net hoe dit die Bulle se spandering beinvloed indien enigsins?
Persoonlik verstaan ek nie hoekom ons beperkings enigsins eers sal wil instel...laat die manne miljoene insit in die spel as hulle wil. Dis egter Rassie se model so ek sal nou met hom stry nie. Seker hy het sy redes vir die beperking.


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 27-May-2020 at 11:27am
Ek wonder net hoeveel spelers mag ons nog koop as ek kyk na die 45 spelers reel en hoeveel het ons op die oomblik op die boeke 


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 27-May-2020 at 11:42am
Originally posted by ROOIHART ROOIHART wrote:

Ek wonder net. 

Ons is in jaar 1 van die infasering van die speler-budgets wat volgens Rassie se nuwe kontraktering-model afgedwing gaan word op unies. Binne 3 jaar moet almal daaraan voldoen. Ter verfrissing. 

- Senior squads maks 45 spelers en R60 miljoen spandering per unie.

- Junior squads : Unlimited spelers tot by R10 miljoen.

Wonder net hoe dit die Bulle se spandering beinvloed indien enigsins?
Persoonlik verstaan ek nie hoekom ons beperkings enigsins eers sal wil instel...laat die manne miljoene insit in die spel as hulle wil. Dis egter Rassie se model so ek sal nou met hom stry nie. Seker hy het sy redes vir die beperking.
Ek dink ook dis n simpel idee, want dit maak ons unies eerder swakker as sterker. Ek dink die rede is dat elke keer as n goeie SA speler oorsee gaan, ontwikkel ons erens weer n jong laaitie in sy plek, wat sodoende Rassie se spelers poel baie vergroot.


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-May-2020 at 11:01am
Hie ek dit verstaan, is dat hulle gekyk het na wat die gemiddelde unie in SA realisties kan bekostig in n jaar. Dit is soos die salary caps in Engeland en die UEFA fairplay reëls in die Champions League (sokker) sodat unies nie n hroot gat vir hulself grawe nie, veral as daar iets sou gebeur soos die span word relegeer in hul domestic kompetisie (of n bonatuurlike ramp gebeur) en hulle verloor heelwat van hul inkomste vir n seisoen.

Ek glo hulle weet wat die gemiddelde borgskap inbring in SA em die gemiddelde gelde wat unies maak, saam met die gemiddelde uitgawes en het dit daarop gegrond. Ek is glad nie teen dit nie. Sonder dit gaan ons spanne wil kompeteer met oorsese spanne, terwyl ons maar met besef ons rand kan nie kompiteer met oorsese geldeenhede nie (al is dit net vir een speler, soos die Sharks wat Beast n belaglike bedrag betaal het die laaste paar jaar).


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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 28-May-2020 at 11:10am
Vir my maak dit ook nie lekker sin nie. Al wat vir my sin maak is dit verhoed dat 1 franchise soveel sterker word as die ander, omdat hy meer geld het om ster spelers te koop. Maar oor die algemeen beteken dit nou die SA franchises kan nog minder met oorsee kompeteer vir ster spelers. Hul kannie 'n paar miljoen vir een speler gee en die res moet dan minder kry nie.  



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