SF 2 - South Africa vs Wales
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Topic: SF 2 - South Africa vs Wales
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: SF 2 - South Africa vs Wales
Date Posted: 21-Oct-2019 at 8:13am
| Sondag 11 uur ons tyd in Yokohama |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2019 at 9:41am
| Wallis was maar swak teen Frankryk, en was dalk gelukkig om te wen. As hulle so teen ons speel, behoort ons nie te sukkel nie. Ons moet asseblief net nie dieselfde as teen Japan speel nie, want dis nie 'n goeie idee om vir Wallis 80% balbesit te gee en te dink ons sal hulle klop nie |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2019 at 10:21am
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Theoretically easy. I mate of mine reminded me of an interesting conflict of interest for mr Garces. If the Boks lose, he should be the ref in the final (As Owens is in the other SF and cant ref a wales game) So some extra motivation for him to "Let wales win"
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2019 at 12:21pm
| Volgens wat ek gehoor het Was Peyper bo Owens gekies om die semi-finaal te blaas, totdat daai foto uitgelek het. So dit klink vir my of Garces 'n baie goeie kans het om die finaal te blaas, behalwe as hy die naweek heeltemal die kluts kwyt raak en 'n groot blaps maak |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2019 at 1:59pm
That’s Great news
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Transvaal wrote:Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2019 at 2:43pm
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 10:08am
| Afskop oor 'n uur, ek hoop die Bokke wen, maar ek dink die twee spanne is baie gelyk en enige iets kan gebeur! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 1:07pm
| 19-16 vir die Bokke. In 'n semi-finaal gee niemand om vir mooi rugby nie, solank jy net wen. Hoop maar net Rassie het 'n plan vir Engeland, want ek dink hulle is heelwat sterker as Wallis |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 4:02pm
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Kyk, as ons so gespeel het teen Japan het ons dalk verloor. Baie swak game deur beide spanne. Ons 1-on-1 verdediging was nie goed nie. Gelukkig het Wallis net so baie unforced errors soos ons gemaak. Sal hlad nie omgee as Willemse speel bo Willie nie. Nou 2 weke na mekaar wat hy meer tjol aanjaag as goed. Marx speel ook glad nie volgens sy standaard nie. Maar ons het gewen, ek het nie gedink ons gaan dit verby 1/4 maak voor die WC begin het nie. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 6:46pm
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Ai ons as 'n nasie is maar 'n baie negatiewe klomp. Ons het teen die Sesnasie kampioene gewen, en as die telling gelyk was, kon ons die laast skop pale toe geskop het, so ons kon eintlik met 6 punte wen, wat meer is as wat NZ mee gewen het.... oh wag, NZ het verloor? Is dit nie NZ verskoning oor hoekom hulle nie perform het in die RC en al die Bokke ondersteuners (veral die ouens op die website) se rede oor hoekom ons dit gewen het nie? Omdat NZ hul oë op die WB het nie. Wel ons het die RC beker en het verder as NZ gekom in die wêreldbeker ook nog. Not too bad. Dan wen ons die sesnasie kampioene en die span wat nog net 'n paar weke voor die WC 1ste in die wêreld was, en ons ondersteuners kyk tipies net na die ander semi en sê ons is nie so goed soos die en daai span nie. Whatever! As negatiwiteit 'n siekte was, was meer as twee derdes van SA se populasie as lankal dood. De Allende se drie was seker ook maar net lucky, maar as dit 'n Engelsman was, was ons almal in ons noppies oor hoe sterk die ou is en het ons gewens hy was in ons span. Ja ons aanval is nie great nie, maar dit is 'n WC semifinaal, niemand gaan baie drieë score nie. Terwyl ons die meeste drieë sover het in die WC soos dit staan anyway. Seker ook nie goed genoeg nie. Die eerste twee jaar wat Ackerman ons afrigter was in SR (2014 & 2015) het
ons ook net gefokus op defence. Of is jul geheue regtig so kort?
Tecklenburg en Whiteley was bo die tackle stats en julle ouens (ek ingesluit) was almal
so trots daaroor. Ons is in die final manne! Wen of verloor is ons die best Suidelike span in die wêreld in minder as twee jaar met Rassie in beheer.
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 6:30am
| Well said, dink jy het n punt. England was bitter goed maat soos jy noem vergeet ons Wallis het hulle geklop in die laaste paar jaar... |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 7:30am
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Goed gese Tunalion, MAAR net 'n paar ander dinge om aan te dink. Ek sal nie se ons is nou die beste suidelike halfrond span nie. NZ is nie nou ewe skielik 'n swak span nadat hul teen 'n baie goeie Engelse span verloor het. NZ sal tien teen een nogsteeds ons gat skop 9 uit elke 10 keer. Ons pad na die finaal was baie maklik. Eerstens teen NZ verloor, daarna Italie, Namibia en Canada gewen. Japan in die quarters was self n maklike game, en Wallis was maar baie swak hierdie WC. Maak nie saak wat hulle voor die WC vermag het nie. Daarteenoor het Eng eers vir Aus en die vlg nwk vir NZ geklop. Dit wil gedoen word! Die ander ding wat ek opgemerk het was die Engelse spelers se reaksie na hul wen teen NZ. Hul het nie soos ons soos mal goed op en af gespring van vreugde nie.. Dit se maar net vir my hulle is vol selfvertroue en weet hulle kan enigiemand wen. Ek het nie gedink ons sal dit so ver maak nie, so well done Rassie en bokke, jul het my baie aangenaam verras! En natuurlik sal ek baie bly wees as ons die beker wen! Ek dink Eng is 'n baie beter span as ons, maar dalk het hul klaar hul finaal gespeel teen NZ, so enigiets kan gebeur
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 7:59am
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Ons is dalk nie die "beste" span nie , maar as ons het die rugby championship gewen en ons is in die RWC final, ons kan nie te k*k was nie. Ja ons het n makliker pad gehad, Ireland was no 1 gerank en kon nie japan wen nie, ons kon. Wallis het die 6 nations gewen, en ons het wallis gewen. Lets look at the glass half full. If we combine our gutsy defense with a solid attack, we will be unbeatble. Winning a RWC on the road to become the best is a pretty nice little cherry on top. We also have a B&I lions tour in 2 years, if we can build on this base, add some attacking flair, we will be hard to beat. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 8:31am
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Latest World Ranking after the semi-finals: http://www.lionsworld.co.za/worldranking.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lionsworld.co.za/worldranking.html |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 9:40am
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21 Springboks have scored 12 or more tries in test matches, they are: http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmosttries.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmosttries.html |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 9:44am
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22 Springboks have scored 120 or more points in test matches, they are: http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmostpoints.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmostpoints.html |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 9:46am
Wel ons het die RC beker en is in die WC final. Waar is NZ, Aus en Arg? So by default is ons beter as hulle in 2019. Die world Rankings stem saam dat ons nou die beste Suiderlike span is. Wie weet wat volgende jaar gaan gebeur en dit maak nie saak nie. Ons is NOU die beste. En daardie eerste game het Garces sy kop verloor en was starstruck. Ons het net twee penalties gewen teen die ABs, die 1ste een in die 2de minuut en die 2de penalty in die 78ste minuut, dit met all die side entries, offsides, scrums wats ons gedominate het waar die NZ stut se elmboog op die grond was, die ABs vuilspel (Read clothesline, punches, etc). Hul een drie het juis gekom na so 'n skrum so dit was 'n crazy game waar die ref als geblaas het teen ons wat hy kon, maar niks vir ons nie en ons het steeds met net 10 punte verloor. Doen jouself 'n guns en gaan kyk na die game weer en besluit maar vir jouself of ons net 2 penalties verdien het in daardie game. En 'n penalty is massief in WC games (en Rugby in die algemeen). Ek weet ook nie hoe kan jy sê Wallis was so swak in die WC nie? Hulle is definitief in die top4 spanne en die rankings wys dit ook. Hulle het dalk nie opgedaag vir die Frankryk game nie, maar nogsteeds gewen (nie hul fout Frankryk het 'n rooikaart gekry nie). En Wallis het nes Engeland ook vir Aus geklop. Ek dink Engeland het ook nie ge'celebrate' nie, want hulle het uiters moeg gelyk na die game in my opinie. Dalk gee hulle ons pakslae, dalk nie, ten minste het ons dit so ver gemaak vir die eerste keer in 12 jaar, maar Suid-Afrikaners wil altyd rede hê om pessimisties te wees en hulself te ondermyn teen ander lande. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 9:50am
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28 Springboks have played in 60 test matches or more, they are: http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmostcaps.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lionsworld.co.za/bokmostcaps.html |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 10:53am
Tuna, ek is realisties, nie pessimisties nie. Jy kan se wat jy wil, maar ons het danksy die verloor teen die AB's in die groep fase 'n makliker roete finaal toe as die ander kant van die draw. NZ is nie in die finaal nie omdat hulle teen 'n baie goeie Engelse span verloor het. Dit beteken nie noodwendig ons is nou ewe skielik 'n beter span as hulle omdat ons verder gevorder het nie! Ek haal aan wat Tvl onlangs in 'n ander thread gepost het: "Van die laaste 10 toetse teen NZ het ons net 1 gewen, en net 3 van die laaste 20". Ek is nie 'n NZ fanboy nie, ek wys maar net uit ons moet ons voete op die grond hou en realisties wees. Rassie het die span gevat van nerens na 'n WC finaal en verdien al die krediet wat na hom toe kom, maar ons span het 'n hele paar swak skakels, en ons gameplan van "skop elke bal donners hoog en tackle dan die wit waks uit hulle uit" gaan nie teen almal werk nie. So ek hoop maar ons varieer bietjie die spel teen Eng, anders kan ek nie sien hoe ons hul gaan wen nie |
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 11:49am
England are a formidable side, but then so are we. I believe SA has some tricks up their sleeves. But so has England, but have they got it in them to lift themselves for that last game?
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 12:16pm
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Ja that's the thing, everyone is hoping Eng are spent after beating Aus and Nz in consecutive weeks. I certainly hope so, and I also hope that Rassie has a few tricks up his sleeve for this game. We'll have to wait and see. Japan certainly punched above their weight this WC, but you'd expect the boks to beat them 9/10 times. I'd certainly prefer to play them than Ireland (even though they beat Ireland)
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 2:10pm
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Everyone keeps saying SA is such a boring team, yet we are leading the try scoring stats. Yeah, some teams played one less game, however, even when looking at average tries per game, we are right up there. And our defence is the best in the comp. Only 4 tries conceded. @Leeubok, once again you are referring to past years and am missing what I am saying. I am speaking about 2019 and not the past 2 years or 10 games head to head vs another team, etc. Currently we are the best Southern Hemisphere team. NZ lost quite heavily to Aus in the RC and finished 3rd, not 2nd. We won the thing and am in the final of the WC. In 2019, we have the better results from all SH teams, hence we are the best SH team for this year. Only 1 loss against NZ's 2 losses (Aus & Eng). Heck, they only beat Arg by 4 points in the first game. I am failing to comprehend how they are better than us in 2019.
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 2:38pm
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@TunaLion The problem is that everyone just looks at our kicking game and they revert to saying that we are a "bad side", You make very valid points. We have only lost ONE GAME all year. The ozzys lost to Wales and thrashed the All blacks. We quite easily beat Australia and toughed it out against wales. Supporters are confusing results and winning with a nice brand of rugby. NZ play a very nice brand of rugby, but they just haven't been on the winning side as often as in the past. NZ's whole aura changed when we beat them in 2018 . They won all the stats, but lost the game. Just for interest sake, here are the sides in 2018. Teams: New Zealand 15 Jordie Barrett, 14 Ben Smith, 13 Anton Lienert-Brown, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Rieko Ioane, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read (captain), 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Squire, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Sam Whitelock, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 Karl Tu'inukuafe Substitutes: 16 Liam Coltman, 17 Tim Perry, 18 Ofa Tu'ungafasi, 19 Patrick Tuipulotu, 20 Ardie Savea, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 Jack Goodhue, 23 Damian McKenzie South Africa 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Jesse Kriel 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Beast Mtawarira, 18 Wilco Louw, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Francois Louw, 21 Ross Cronjé, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Cheslin Kolbe I've highlighted the guys that didnt start (In the same position), from that test vs the semi finals in both sides. 11 of the NZ 15 changed, that is significant. 12 months out from a world cup, that is major. NZ decided to change their game after they lost to us. It backfired on them the starting XV in 2018 were also availbale for the england game (Although some didnt even mke the RWC squad - Franks) 6 of our 15 changed. 3 of these 6 , are injured or banned (WW, Dyanti and Kriel). That means only 3 okes were available and didn't start. Kitshoff, Marx and Mostert. Now, I would have dropped Willie a long time ago , but Rassie is obviously trying to build continuity. I think Marx and Kitshoff are better than beast and bongi, BUT in the last 20 minutes , when the game is actually won or lost, who would you rather want on the field?? |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 2:59pm
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And for what its worth , here is the england side that we played in 2018 vs the semi final 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Owen Farrell (captain), 11 Mike Brown, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Curry, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 Nick Isiekwe, 4 Maro Itoje, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 2 Jamie George, 1 Mako Vunipola Only 5 players that started vs the boks in June at Ellis park , didnt start against the AB's in the same position. Jonny May, swaped wings and Robshow retired. Lawes came back from injury. So they have also opted to build consistency for the world cup. People say we beat a 2nd string England side in June, I disagree. It was our first game with our new coach and our new defensive system. Nienaber said it will take at least 10 tests for the boks to fully buy in and understand our defensive system. So we were actually a little under cooked for the England tests , yet we won. I don't fear England, we CAN BEAT THEM, yest they are favorites , we are underdogs. Lets keep it like that. They will have the pressure, we will have the belief, what a good situation to be in!! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 3:10pm
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Tuna you are contradicting yourself. You say look at this years results only, and I am. Against the AB's we drew one and lost one. And the loss was very recent, in the WC pool game. So how can we be better than them if we haven't beaten them yet this year? |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 3:16pm
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Look, I also am also not massive fans of many of the players in the current SA team and am very biased towards Lions players. Heck, I would personally drop more than half of the current Springbok side in favour of players I prefer (mostly Lions), but then again my team would play an entirely different gameplan and also probably not be in the World Cup final. So luckily I am not the coach and I have started to give credit where credit is due as Rassie has done more than I would be able to achieve in my wildest dreams. We also need to realize Rassie plays a different game plan to that of the Lions, NZ, etc. So while a player is good in one team with a specific gameplan, doesn't mean he will be good in another team with another gameplan. The following is a list of players I wouldn't even have in my WC squad, but have proved that they deserve to be there: - Damian De Allende : probably the form inside centre at this world cup, his defence is outstanding, his workrate excellent (at rucks), he has great positioning, makes meters with every run and scored an insane try vs Wales. Also manages to make excellent steals/penalties from rucks when within our 22. Fits perfectly with Rassie's game plan. It is hard for me to believe how I used to mock this guy, just a few months ago even. I feel ashamed. - Lukanyo Am : Great defence, high workrate and also steals a few balls at rucks/disrupts ball from opposing runners arms. Deceptively quick and runs good lines. - Siya Kolisi : Just like we don't understand how the other SA franchises don't see the value in some of our players from past (or present) such as WW / Tecklenburg / Mostert, he has a great workrate and pops up at almost all the rucks, which makes fans not notice him as he doesn't steal the show as he always has his head in a ruck to disrupt the opponents ball and slow it down. The Springboks don't always try to steal the ball, which is strange for me and not in line with the teams I support, however it works for us as those few seconds he disrupts at every ruck is vital for our defence line to get back in shape. Also manages to make at least one or two monster hits every game. - Vermeulen : Makes a lot of meters every game (most of the semi), excellent ball control at scrums, great in defence and also manages a few monster hits. Not my type of eighthman, but fits the Springboks gameplan like a glove. - Frans Malherbe : I was pleasently surprised by his stats this past weekend and another player one doesn't always see, but manages to do the unseen dirty work. Has been solid in the scrums at the world cup thus far. - Mbonambi : Punches above his weight. Excellent line out throwing and great in the mauls. Allround solid player. I also prefer him to start above Marx (even though I rate Marx much higher) as it allows Marx to really thrive against tired the tired opponents in the second half. It is an 80 minute game with 23 man teams go watch Eddie Jones' response to a question about him "dropping" Ford last week, then you will start to understand this reasoning of Marx being on the bench. I only understood why Marx doesn't start after seeing Eddie's response as well to be honest. - Lood De Jager : Just like Mostert, he tackles everything that moves (see his stats for this year's SR with the Bulls), very solid in general play and excellent target in the lineouts. - Kolbe : while he would have been in my starting team for evey game this year, we all laughed at his selection last year (me included). Oh boy how he shut us up pretty quickly. Probably the best wing in the world at the momenbt. Great under the high ball, in defence, in attack, has a good boot on him, even tries to counter ruck at times. And manages to make some intercepts and score some ridiculous tries. What more can one want from your wing? - some other players like Beast, Pollard, Mapimpi, Nkosi, Francois Louw, etc. all proved themselves during the past few games. Maybe weird with Beast starting, but it is the same situation as with Mbonambi. Rassie is ahead of his time with the use of his bench and his selection of a match 23 instead of just loading your starting 15 with the best. I love the term "Bomb Squad" and also fits in with Eddie Jones' comments. Seems as though the two best and tactically astute coaches made it to the final. Then, there are a few player who I would still not choose, but because of the turnaround of the past two years, I trust Rassie has his reasons. This is players such as Willie Le Roux, Jesse Kriel (injured) & Eben. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 3:25pm
I am not contradicting myself, you are unfortunately not reading my posts completely. I did state I am not speaking about head to head results. I said I am referring to this year and my statement is that we are the best team thus far in this year (2019) as we only lost once. I am speaking about all matches of all teams vs all opponents and the year's (2019) achievements. I don't know how a team ranked 3rd in the RC and lost twice this year (2019) is better than a team that won the RC and is in the WC final and only lost once this year. The only disrepency is that the team who came 3rd in the RC is named NZ and that makes them better (in 2019) than the team that only lost once and won the RC. Just head to head they are better, that does not make them the better team. Our achievements are better than NZ's this year (2019). ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:23pm
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Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:25pm
| Res van die wereld speel rugby om elke 4 jaar dir wereld beker te wen die ABs speel rugby om elke jaar alles te wen |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:32pm
Seriously monster, you too? Read my post, I was clearly referring to this year (2019) and SA's achievements this year vs NZ's achievements this year (not head to head or past years or anything like that). ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:33pm
Except this year (2019).......... ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:35pm
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I am speechless guys. Don't know how much more clear I can be in what I am saying. I started underlining and marking things in bold, while repeatedly stating not head to head and that I am referring to only 2019. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 4:39pm
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Yes, monster, in historical view, NZ is the best ever sportsteam (bestwinning % of all time all that), they are world class, etc, etc, beat us in head to head this year. I am not argueing any of that. My statement from the start was that we achieved more than them this year (2019) and for 2019 is the best SH team (2019) - if one looks at trophies and amount of matches lost (our 1 vs their 2). That is all. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 5:07pm
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Ek weet nie of dit net ek is nie, maar dit voel vir my asof die All Blacks 2 jaar gelede reeds ge peak het. Ja hulle het die laaste 2 jaar meeste van hul games gewen, maar hulle was in van die toetse teen ons, en teen ander spanne soms vir my vulnerable. In die laaste 2 jaar het hulle ook verloor teen ons, Engeland, n baie average Aus span en teen Ierland. Engeland was baie Goed Saterdag. Ons was nie goed teen Wallis nie, maar tog effektief. Ek dink Engeland het volgens hul potensiaal gespeel, en ons nie. Ons kan baie verbeter, maar ek weet nie of Engeland hulle game nog vreeslik kan lig nie. As elke springbok volgens sy vermoe speel, kan ons hulle wen.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 5:16pm
RE: All Blacks- dink Hansen het bietjie foute gemaak. Speel sonder Crotty en Ben Smith was risky en Barret op 7 in semi? Vleuls alhoewel goed, te onervare. So ook Richie op 10. Hy het seker nog nooit daar gespeel op internasionale vlak nie, nou kom try hy dit in WC semi?  Ons was baie goed teen Japan, maar pap teen Wallis, ek wonder (hoop) of Eng nie dalk tenk leeg gemaak het nie. Ek weet nie, maar ek dink nou nie Eng is sulke erge oorweldigende gunstelinge nie. Maar wag, die week is jonk. Eddie moet nog begin met sy stories. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2019 at 6:46pm
100% , if you look at my 11/15 analysis . They panicked !!!
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 7:27am
What you're trying to say is that the bokke have done better than the AB's in competitions this year. We won the rugby champs and made it to the WC final. Head to head they still kick our arse, but they've slipped up in important games this year.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 7:38am
Die AB's het juis baie kritiek gekry oor hul te veel ou manne in die span gehad het, wat toe op n stadium begin kleitrap het. Praat jy van Richie Mo'unga op 10? Hy het 14 test caps.. Stem oor Barret, daai trick het nie gewerk nie. Dink Eng het net uitstekend gespeel op die dag, en die AB's nie kans gegee om in die game te kom nie. Ek hoop ook maar hulle tank is leeg na daai game..
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 8:12am
Daai ou amnne was steeds great in SR, maar nou ja. Dis maar hul saak. Nee sorry, Barret op 7. Ek worry nou nie verder oor die ABs nie. Go Bokke!!! ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 8:22am
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Weet nie of julle manne die deal gesien het van Sonnybil nie dis 'n span in canada as hy dit vat is hy die beste betaalde rugby en rugby league spelers 6.2miljoen dollar vir 'n twee jaar kontrak dis so tussen 80 en 90 miljoen rand lekker aftrede pakket  |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 8:26am
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The 2 teams that made it to the final have had a very consistent team. in RWC you need consistency. Obviously you cant keep all the players even if they keep on not performing, but the bulk (80%) must stick. We've done that and so did england. New Zealand made 8 changes PLUS 3 positional changes since losing to the boks in 2018. 11/15 changed. Steve Hansen pushed his "Innovation" to far, the Barret and Mo'unga thing could have worked, but he should implemented it earlier. He effectively dropped Ben Smith to make space for Mo'unga. Then he dropped Ioane , the world player of the year in 2017. Ben Franks, probably the best 3 in the world, also didn't make the cut, because he opted for "running props". Hindsight is a perfect science , but NZ lost the plot a little. Rassie on the other hand is a little "too loyal". Willie le Roux , case and point. He has been absolutely terrible!! |
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 9:53am
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 10:03am
| Amper verstik ek in my koffie toe ek Earl Rose se naam lees...nou moet ek seker weer terapie kry om van hom te probeer vergeet....donker tyd in die Leeus se geskiedenis |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 10:39am
| Dink die Bokke het 'n beter kaans teen Engeland as teen die AB's, veral as ons verdediging hulle in foute in kan forseer. Maar ons sal drasties moet verbeter en die Rose sal ook 'n afdag moet he. |
Posted By: Tin
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 10:52am
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2019 at 11:03am
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