Print Page | Close Window

SF 1 - New Zealand vs England

Printed From: Lionsworld
Category: Rugby Competitions
Forum Name: Rugby World Cup
Forum Description: Rugby World Cup
URL: http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=8306
Printed Date: 28-Apr-2024 at 11:30pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: SF 1 - New Zealand vs England
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: SF 1 - New Zealand vs England
Date Posted: 21-Oct-2019 at 8:12am
Saterdag 10 uur ons tyd in Yokohama



Replies:
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 21-Oct-2019 at 11:40am
Hierdie gaan n MOERSE game wees!


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 10:53am
Goeie wedstryd sover, Engeland is 10-0 voor rustyd.


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 12:01pm
Engeland wen 19-7...nogal 'n upset


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Engeland wen 19-7...nogal 'n upset

England just won the World Cup - FOR SOUTH AFRICA!!!


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 12:11pm
Niela ek weet nie ek is positief maar ek kan nie dink dat ons engeland se pak sal kan vat  nie


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 12:22pm
it will be very tough , I just don’t see England playing 3 flawless games in a row... 

This was their final , they played like it was their final and celebrated like their final. 

I’ve always felt we have England’s number , should have beaten them at Twickenham. 

Will be tough , but they are beatable 


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 1:03pm
Ek weet nie, met die speech na die game, het Owen Farrel nog heel gefokus gelyk vir my. Gaan die beste twee defences teen mekaar wees volgende week (as Garces ons nie opskroef more nie).


-------------
Go LIONS!!!!!


Posted By: Tin
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 3:41pm
fokus maar eers op Wallis


Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 3:55pm
Eerste ref wie ek sien die All Blacks penaliseer vir van die kant af by ruck, onkant en 'sack'/van die kant af by mauls. Well done Nigel!!!


-------------
Up the Vaal!


Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 3:57pm
Verder was All Blacks ook glad nie opgewasse in kontak nie. Eng het gerieflik oor die voordeellyn gekom, varal in eerste 30 minute.

Ook, Hansen se spelpatroon met Barret op flank en om te skop het glad nie gewerk nie. Takties en fisies was hul uitoorlê.


-------------
Up the Vaal!


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Eerste ref wie ek sien die All Blacks penaliseer vir van die kant af by ruck, onkant en 'sack'/van die kant af by mauls. Well done Nigel!!!


En ook eintlik penaliseer by die skrums, ens. ABs het vir die eerste keer wat ek kan onthou meer penalties afgestaan as wat hulle gewen het, want ref het bietjie balls gehad vir n slag.


-------------
Go LIONS!!!!!


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 4:54pm
Nie ooit gedink ek sal vir die Ingelse skree nie maar ek het vandag. Was n baie goeie game. Dink ok die Ingelse het vandag tenk leeggemaak...




Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 4:55pm
Ek se nog die hele week wie vandag gewen het wen die wereldbeker.  Bokke of Wallis sal nie die engelse wen volgende week nie 


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2019 at 9:04pm
Very interesting how many South Africans write us off. 

We have the best set piece and the best defense. Just because Faf kicks the ball , doesn’t mean we can’t win test matches. We’ve scored more points and more tries than any other team , dis we have easier games ?? Maybe here and there , but 2 years ago we lost against Italy , now we gave them a PROPER hiding. 

Italy would have been preparing for our games for the last 2 years , the knew they would have to beat us to play in the play offs. 

Scotland and Ireland beat England in the last 2 years , they are all out of the comp. 

We might not like the game plan , that doesn’t matter , if we win then the rest is history. 

I’ve been very disappointed with the lions , playing an amazing brand of running rugby , losing in 3 finals. If the boks win, boring as it may be , that becomes irrelevant. 




Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 8:38am
Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Very interesting how many South Africans write us off. 

We have the best set piece and the best defense. Just because Faf kicks the ball , doesn’t mean we can’t win test matches. We’ve scored more points and more tries than any other team , dis we have easier games ?? Maybe here and there , but 2 years ago we lost against Italy , now we gave them a PROPER hiding. 

Italy would have been preparing for our games for the last 2 years , the knew they would have to beat us to play in the play offs. 

Scotland and Ireland beat England in the last 2 years , they are all out of the comp. 

We might not like the game plan , that doesn’t matter , if we win then the rest is history. 

I’ve been very disappointed with the lions , playing an amazing brand of running rugby , losing in 3 finals. If the boks win, boring as it may be , that becomes irrelevant. 



Agreed.

The brand of rugby isn't as important as results. Everyone likes watching running rugby, but we only care about winning. Winning will have people watching, at home and in the stands.


-------------
Up the Vaal!


Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 8:59am
Don't think anything wrong with the Lions brand of rugby. Many teams have won SR titles and world Cups with attacking play. As long as defense, ball retention and basics are correctly implemented, it all boils down to limiting mistakes and imposing your game plan, which is where good coaching comes into play (ie Jones & Mitchell). England, the way they played this far, are certainly the team to beat, but anyhing can happen in a final.


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by Attie Karate Attie Karate wrote:

Eerste ref wie ek sien die All Blacks penaliseer vir van die kant af by ruck, onkant en 'sack'/van die kant af by mauls. Well done Nigel!!!
Ek het dit ook nogal opgemerk...


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 6:15pm
the lions played the best rugby of all sides from 16-18 , yet we didn’t win. 

Why didn’t we win?? Defense defense defense . We didn’t even have a defensive coach , in this day and age. What were the lions thinking , how we for the love of G , did not appointed a defense coach is a joke. In 2019 we had Joey , what a joke. 

People can say the boks are backwards , boring ect ect. Defense is 50% of rugby , we have 15 very committed players on the field. They wear their hearts on their sleeves . They will tackle all day every day. The lions had 3 years to learn that lesson , te we couldn’t , we just “wanted to score tries” . And yes it was beautiful to watch , but if we had that gold medal around our necks I couldn’t care less , we didn’t. 

The boks however can (and probably will)


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

the lions played the best rugby of all sides from 16-18 , yet we didn’t win. 

Why didn’t we win?? Defense defense defense . We didn’t even have a defensive coach , in this day and age. What were the lions thinking , how we for the love of G , did not appointed a defense coach is a joke. In 2019 we had Joey , what a joke. 

People can say the boks are backwards , boring ect ect. Defense is 50% of rugby , we have 15 very committed players on the field. They wear their hearts on their sleeves . They will tackle all day every day. The lions had 3 years to learn that lesson , te we couldn’t , we just “wanted to score tries” . And yes it was beautiful to watch , but if we had that gold medal around our necks I couldn’t care less , we didn’t. 

The boks however can (and probably will)


Very true. We all love attacking rugby, however great defence tends to trump great offence. Take the NZ vs England semi as a case in point of this. NZ had no answers and were making these ridiculous kicks when even outside England's 22 desperately searching for some space. Beudan & Jordi Barret looked like amateurs and simply choked - they even had worse games then Willie vs Japan. Their kicks were coming off the side of their boots and they barely made 15m with some of their clearance kicks. All because of the defence and being gatvol of being tackled silly.


-------------
Go LIONS!!!!!


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 6:59pm
Ek dink nie dit was verdediging wat ons in 2016 tot 2018 laat verloor het nie, Super Rugby het baie te doen met om die finaal by die huis te speel, so jy moet baie seker maak jy speel die finaal by die huis. Die een keer toe ons dit reg kry, was daar ongelukkig een breinpoep en kry ons 'n rooi kaart wat dit toe baie moeilik maak om te wen


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2019 at 9:30pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Ek dink nie dit was verdediging wat ons in 2016 tot 2018 laat verloor het nie, Super Rugby het baie te doen met om die finaal by die huis te speel, so jy moet baie seker maak jy speel die finaal by die huis. Die een keer toe ons dit reg kry, was daar ongelukkig een breinpoep en kry ons 'n rooi kaart wat dit toe baie moeilik maak om te wen

In 2018 we dominated territory and possession. We attack and attack and attack , couldn’t score. Commies had a clean break and we didn’t finish. 

The saders took their chances , is that good attack or weak defense ? If your coach’s policy is to “score tries” at all costs , then chances are it was weak defense. 

Defense was an after thought at the lions. 

The boks built their game around sting defense. It’s not like we can’t attack (loftus vs NZ last year). But we tend to be on the right side of the scoreboard when we play a pressure game.



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd. - https://www.webwiz.net