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White’s plea to SA Rugby: Allow us bigger squads

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    Posted: 24-May-2021 at 3:54pm
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“I know a request has been made for us to be allowed to make our squads bigger than the player cap of 45, and that’s from all four unions, not just the Bulls."

Many male rugby fans will know the feeling of the wife complaining about there being too much rugby over the weekend, but Bulls coach Jake White certainly seems to have a legitimate complaint when he expressed his concern over all the different demands on his players that will happen next month.

The Bulls, starting with their match against the Lions on Saturday, have three rounds of Rainbow Cup SA games left and, with them sitting top of the log at the moment, they will have their eyes on the final against the winners of the Pro14 in Europe on June 19.

But they could also have to play in the Currie Cup that weekend, and it is likely that the Springboks could be in camp as well.

“I know a request has been made for us to be allowed to make our squads bigger than the player cap of 45, and that’s from all four unions, not just the Bulls,” White said on Friday.

“If we play in the Rainbow Cup final on June 19, we could also have a Currie Cup game and the Boks could be out too. The U20s also have a competition starting. But we’re only allowed 45 players so I’m not sure what we can do, can we choose club players?

“We’re waiting to hear from SA Rugby, but we’re all in the same boat. In fact, the Sharks could have 10-12 players in the Springbok camp, so I’m not sure how they would pick two full teams. But as a coach I want to produce Springboks, I want guys like Cornal Hendricks, Stedman Gans and Elrigh Louw to play for the Boks and the list goes on.”

The quandary requires some nifty selecting and player management, and the elevation of Chris Smith to the position of starting flyhalf against the Lions on Saturday, with Morne Steyn being rested, is an obvious example of this.

White has given Smith plenty of game time in the last year and the 26-year-old has shown he has the qualities and temperament of a top franchise player.

“Even with Morne playing so well, we realise we are not going to have him forever and part of the plan is to groom the next flyhalf,” White said.

“If we lose Morne to an extended Springbok squad then we have to play Chris. He has come on in some pressure games and played very well. He’s got the talent, he plays quickly and he has a great passing game. There’s no panic, he’s started enough times.

“It’s good for him to get some game-time now and he has grown in the last year. Every practice he plays against Morne, so he can see what makes him different. But Chris has got something different too and he’s the No 2 flyhalf that has played the most out of all the franchise 10s. So we have a lot of faith in him, we’re ready to get the best out of him.”

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do we have the cc fixtures?
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Ek het dit nog nie gesien nie
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Goue Leeu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2021 at 7:38am
White en die Bulle wil net nog spelers koop met hul miljoene...
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Dink hulle wangle klaar die stelsel, van hierdie jong ouens steek hulle weg op die klubs se boeke. 
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Dink dieselfde Pabzor
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Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.
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Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.
LOLLOLLOL
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Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.
LOLLOLLOL

Yes Blou. Lanklaas gechat. Wink
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Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.

Die Bulle ook nie.. hulle moes ander mense se geld vat :) Ek lees dat DHL n gedeelte van Damian se salaris betaal.. wonder of dit die geval is met al daai groot name daar by die Bulle.. Seker n algemene ding? 
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Dis mos eintlik teen die reels is dit nie?
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Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.

Die Bulle ook nie.. hulle moes ander mense se geld vat :) Ek lees dat DHL n gedeelte van Damian se salaris betaal.. wonder of dit die geval is met al daai groot name daar by die Bulle.. Seker n algemene ding? 
Is so. Glassfit betaal ook seker maar van ons spelers se salarisse. Iemand hoog op in Fidelity hetmy vertel dat Beast, toe hy by die Sharks was, en nog n paar  R40k per maand by Fidelity gekry het, net om af en toe n corporate appearance te doen
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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Dis mos eintlik teen die reels is dit nie?

Vra maar vir Sarries.. wie weet rerig wat waar is.. en wat nie. Maar sulke goed kom heeltyd op, so daar sal seker waarheid wees in dit.

Miskien word dit gesien soos die ouens wat helfde van hulle salaris by SARU kry? Die ander helfde tel seker nie teen die span se salary cap  nie? So die span trek dubbel voordeel uit dit uit?


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Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.

Die Bulle ook nie.. hulle moes ander mense se geld vat :) Ek lees dat DHL n gedeelte van Damian se salaris betaal.. wonder of dit die geval is met al daai groot name daar by die Bulle.. Seker n algemene ding? 
Is so. Glassfit betaal ook seker maar van ons spelers se salarisse. Iemand hoog op in Fidelity hetmy vertel dat Beast, toe hy by die Sharks was, en nog n paar  R40k per maand by Fidelity gekry het, net om af en toe n corporate appearance te doen

Dis 'n goeie besigheids plan. Ek dink dit werk maar so in baie professionele sporte. F1 gaan jy byvoorbeeld nerens kom sonder persoonlike sponsors nie.


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Originally posted by OomPB OomPB wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Blou Blou wrote:

Leeus kan nie eers spelers op die boeke bekostig nie.
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Yes Blou. Lanklaas gechat. Wink

Oom Paarl. Ek hoop dit gaan goed daar in die kaap.

Oom loop seker nie meer lyne nie? (COVID nie teenstaande nie)
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Isn't this in effect what Saracens got caught for? Getting a third party (be it the owner or a sponsor) to "top up" players' salaries through "business/investment contracts" or "endorsements" to get around salary caps?
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Originally posted by L13 L13 wrote:

Isn't this in effect what Saracens got caught for? Getting a third party (be it the owner or a sponsor) to "top up" players' salaries through "business/investment contracts" or "endorsements" to get around salary caps?

Exactly, that is how they were able to pay players more than the salary cap. But it's not legal. Not sure what the SA rules about this are though
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