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The Lions have a skipper vacancy for next year’s Super Rugby tournament due to the inspirational No 8s continued injury troubles … and Jantjies is putting his hand up.

If Elton Jantjies wanted to state his case for the Lions’ Super Rugby captaincy in 2020, he wouldn’t need words.

Instead, the Springbok flyhalf has already done so through his actions after returning from a triumphant World Cup campaign, believes injured regular skipper Warren Whiteley.

“Elton was so eager to start training again with the rest of the squad that coach Cash (Van Rooyen) actually had to tell him he needs another few days of rest,” the popular and inspirational No 8 said at a promotional event this week.< width="1" height="2" border="0" style="-sizing: border-; display: block; margin: 12px auto;">< width="1" height="2" border="0" style="-sizing: border-; display: block; margin: 12px auto;">

“He’s just such a professional in his own right. You could probably label him the ultimate professional.”

Jantjies is one of quite a few senior players more than suitable for captain’s armband, having served as the official vice-captain in this year’s campaign.

Malcolm Marx’s elevation into the main role following Whiteley’s injury-ravaged season at his expense was a talking point.

“Without officially endorsing him, I can say with the utmost confidence that Elton would be an excellent captain,” said Whiteley.

“He’s been so loyal too. He’s still highly motivated after he extended his contract for another two years. He brings unbelievable experience to the table.”

The 32-year-old workhorse admits though that his own oodles of experience will be confined to helping out with coaching as his recovery from a knee injury remains a “waiting game”.

“I’m taking it day-by-day,” he said.

At least the void is offset substantially by the recruitment of veteran former Springbok prop Jannie du Plessis.

“He’s been with us for almost three weeks now and, frankly, he’s been an inspiration,” said Whiteley.

“Jannie’s been unbelievable. He’s so motivated to provide insights and wisdom. It’s so amazing to see. After all, this is a guy who’s seen it all in his illustrious career. He’s won a World Cup, a Rugby Championship and had a decorated franchise career too.

“He’s constantly giving advice to the youngsters. He drives them, and they drive him to still give his best. It’s a great dynamic to have in any team.

“Jannie really should be considered an extra coach in the Lions setup. He told me just the other day that he did a lot of formal coaching at (French club) Montpellier, so he’s quite comfortable with it. I had no idea that he’s been doing it for such a long time already. What a bonus.”

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Elton is the only viable option to captain the side next year,

I would however still like to see him at 12 and Gianni at 10
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Soos iemand alreeds opgemerk het, meeste spanne speel deesdae met 'n reus op 12, so as jy twee klein outjies op 10 en 12 speel gaan jy waarskynlik daai kanaal tussen 10 en 12 die hele 80 minute moet verdedig. Gianni het goed gelyk op 10 voor hy beseer is, en ek sal eerder wil sien dat hy en Jantjies roteer op 10
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Stem, Shaun is dalk n beter roep op 12 met Jantjies en Gianni op 10. 

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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Soos iemand alreeds opgemerk het, meeste spanne speel deesdae met 'n reus op 12, so as jy twee klein outjies op 10 en 12 speel gaan jy waarskynlik daai kanaal tussen 10 en 12 die hele 80 minute moet verdedig. Gianni het goed gelyk op 10 voor hy beseer is, en ek sal eerder wil sien dat hy en Jantjies roteer op 10

Dit is waar , maar die hele groot 12 ding is vir my ook maar ook outdated. 

Ons Sal die beste 15 spelers op die park moet hé as ons wil compete , as ons 2 goeie spelers in dieselde posisie het , dan moet ons dinge biethie rond skuif 
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Wel, ons het 3 goeie losskakels wat almal gametime gaan wil he. Cash sal mooi moet beplan hoe hy hul gaan roteer om almal gelukkig te hou. 

Dit is goed om te hoor dat Jannie so positiewe invloed op die squad het. Ek hoop maar hy speel so goed soos hy praat
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Jantjies wat elke game 80minute speel gaan ons uitvang een van die dae, so hulle beter seker maak die ander ouens kry kans om sy las te manage, hy kannie so aanhou speel nie.
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Wel, ons het 3 goeie losskakels wat almal gametime gaan wil he. Cash sal mooi moet beplan hoe hy hul gaan roteer om almal gelukkig te hou. 

Dit is goed om te hoor dat Jannie so positiewe invloed op die squad het. Ek hoop maar hy speel so goed soos hy praat

100% , dis hoekom elton 12 moet speel.

Laat die nuwe bloed 10 speel en elton kan help met die game managemnet van 12 af. Hy was great die tye wat hy 12 gespeel het. 

Sy defense is maar die issue as hy en Gianni saam speel, so ons moet dit net goed beplan
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Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Dit is waar , maar die hele groot 12 ding is vir my ook maar ook outdated. 



Vertel dit vir die Sharks en Stormers wat Esterhuizen en De Allende op 12 speel, probleem vir ons is dat ons weet hulle speel daar en met 2 kleinerige spelers op 10 en 12 skep jy net vir jouself 'n probleem
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Ons kan baie spekuleer oor wie waar moet speel, maar ek dink ons moenie te verbaas wees as ons starting 15 vir die eerste SR game as volg lyk nie:

15 Boeboes
14 Skosan
13 Simelane
12 Dan Kriel
11 Ulengo
10 Elton (C)
9 Ross
8 Alberts/Dayimane
7 Brink
6 Marnus/ Roelof
5 Orie
4 Ruben Schoeman
3 Jannie/Sadie
2 Jansen/Campher
1 Dylan

16 Campher/Jansen
17 Sithole
18 Sadie/Jannie
19 VD Sluys
20 Roelof/Marnus
21 Dayimane/Alberts
22 Warner
23 Greene/Matthews

Hoewel ek ook baie graag van ons jong talent in aksie sal wil sien, weet ek nie of Cash hulle die eerste paar games in die diepkant gaan ingooi nie. Ek dink hy gaan begin met tried and trusted, voordat hy hulle stelsematig gaan integreer.

Spelers wat hierdie jaar ernstig kan kompeteer vir n plek as n starter is:

Greene
Tiaan Swanepoel
Stiaan Pienaar
Louritz van der Schyff
Lombard
Shaun Reynolds
Dillon Smit
Francke Horn
Massyn
De Villiers
Tshituka
Vermaak
Nothnagel
Herbst
Nthlabakanye
Frans van wyk
Johannes Jonker
PJ Botha
Daai Marco haker wat van die Pumas af kom
Leo Kruger
Nathan Macbeth

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Ek dink weer Greene sal begin op 14 en Skosan op 11. Stiaan moet op die bench wees. Ulengo moet eers bewys hy het weer vorm.

Roelof saam met Marnus in die beginspan sal die ouens dood maak.

Verder ja.. is maar tried en trusted in n sekere mate.


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15 Boeboe 14 Greene 13 Simelane 12 La Grance 11 Skosan 10 Elton 9 Dillon Smith 8 Brink 7 Roelof 6 Marnus 5 Orie 4 Schoeman 3 Sadie 2 Camp her 1 Smith        16Jansen 17 Sithole 18 Jannie 19 Alberts  20 daimani 21 Ross 22 giani Lombard 23 Dan Kriel Sou hou van die span
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As ons Alberts teken, sien ek hom op 4 en nie 8 nie. Dink nie hy sal sommer op 8 sak nie. Ons het genoeg diepte by die loosies en ons probleem is op slot. 

Sy bynaam was ook "Vic" by die lions, hy het goed gedoen by die lystane.

 
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Hy sal verseker slot speel as ons hom teken
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Die hele Jannie vs Sadie ding is ook eintklik n coin toss. 

wil jy experience op die veld he die laaste 20 of eerste 20. 

Ek sal maklik vir Jannie wou bench, maar klink of hy nogals indruk maak by die span en moet dalk start 
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Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Die hele Jannie vs Sadie ding is ook eintklik n coin toss. 

wil jy experience op die veld he die laaste 20 of eerste 20. 

Ek sal maklik vir Jannie wou bench, maar klink of hy nogals indruk maak by die span en moet dalk start 

Lekker ding is mens kan hulle afhaal en opsit soos benodig.
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Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Elton is the only viable option to captain the side next year


Dit mag dalk so wees, maar ek hou nie baie daarvan dat iemand net kaptein is omdat daar niemand anders is nie. Ek glo ook nie EJ se temprament is van so aard dat hy spelers kan lei nie. Eerder dat hy hul kan opsweep teen die ref.


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Kom ons gee Elton 'n kans. Hy was een van die mees loyale Leeus spelers selfs toe ons uit Super rugby geskop is. Ek is seker die jong spelers gaan na hom opkyk en vir hom speel!!
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Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Die hele Jannie vs Sadie ding is ook eintklik n coin toss. 

wil jy experience op die veld he die laaste 20 of eerste 20. 

Ek sal maklik vir Jannie wou bench, maar klink of hy nogals indruk maak by die span en moet dalk start 

Lekker ding is mens kan hulle afhaal en opsit soos benodig.


Stut is ten minste die een plek waar ons nie 'n probleem gaan hê nie. Ons het baie diepte daarso.
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Originally posted by vdwestjo vdwestjo wrote:

Kom ons gee Elton 'n kans. Hy was een van die mees loyale Leeus spelers selfs toe ons uit Super rugby geskop is. Ek is seker die jong spelers gaan na hom opkyk en vir hom speel!!


Dit is baie waar. Hy is ons mees ervare speler ooit en het by ons gestaan deur dik en dun. Wens net Gianni gee hom 'n goeie "go" vir losskakel, want wanneer daar kompetisie is vir sy posisie is wanneer hy die beste speel. Soos toe Marnitz nog by ons was.... Daardie kompetisie het die beste uit albei van hulle gebring.
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Gee Elton wat hom toekom by is lojaal ja,  goeie speler ja, is ons dankbaar ja, is by met sy gatwip houding teenoor refs n kaptein NEE, ons sal moet ander kaptein vind

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Originally posted by Rooibonte8 Rooibonte8 wrote:

Gee Elton wat hom toekom by is lojaal ja,  goeie speler ja, is ons dankbaar ja, is by met sy gatwip houding teenoor refs n kaptein NEE, ons sal moet ander kaptein vind


Kom ons gee hom 'n kans, hopelik na sy crazy oomblikke in Durban en die Leeus se reaksie daartop het hy sy houding bietjie verander. Die management span sal ook met hom hopelik gewerk het om sy gedrag te verander as kaptein aangesien hy nou oorweeg word daarvoor.
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Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Originally posted by Rooibonte8 Rooibonte8 wrote:

Gee Elton wat hom toekom by is lojaal ja,  goeie speler ja, is ons dankbaar ja, is by met sy gatwip houding teenoor refs n kaptein NEE, ons sal moet ander kaptein vind


Kom ons gee hom 'n kans, hopelik na sy crazy oomblikke in Durban en die Leeus se reaksie daartop het hy sy houding bietjie verander. Die management span sal ook met hom hopelik gewerk het om sy gedrag te verander as kaptein aangesien hy nou oorweeg word daarvoor.

Elton was die official vice captain vir die bokke. Dit Se baie. Ek dink hy het goeie leadership in hom. Hy is loyal en hy het ondervinding 
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Dink ook Elton is die beste opsie vir kaptein,  glo hy sal geleer het uit die foute van laas jaar
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Originally posted by Niela Niela wrote:

Originally posted by TunaLion TunaLion wrote:

Originally posted by Rooibonte8 Rooibonte8 wrote:

Gee Elton wat hom toekom by is lojaal ja,  goeie speler ja, is ons dankbaar ja, is by met sy gatwip houding teenoor refs n kaptein NEE, ons sal moet ander kaptein vind


Kom ons gee hom 'n kans, hopelik na sy crazy oomblikke in Durban en die Leeus se reaksie daartop het hy sy houding bietjie verander. Die management span sal ook met hom hopelik gewerk het om sy gedrag te verander as kaptein aangesien hy nou oorweeg word daarvoor.

Elton was die official vice captain vir die bokke. Dit Se baie. Ek dink hy het goeie leadership in hom. Hy is loyal en hy het ondervinding 


Is jy ernstig, Niela? Ekt dit regtig nie geweet nie...
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