Lions vs Bulls
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Topic: Lions vs Bulls
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Lions vs Bulls
Date Posted: 24-Jan-2022 at 8:55am
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Saterdag 29 Januarie op Ellispark, afskop 15:00 Referee: Rasta Rasivhenge (SARU, 4th competition game) AR 1: Aimee Barrett-Theron (SARU) AR 2: Griffin Colby (SARU) TMO: AJ Jacobs (SARU) Lions: 15. EW Viljoen, 14. Edwill van der Merwe, 13. Wandisile Simelane, 12. Burger Odendaal (c), 11. Sibahle Maxwane, 10. Fred Zeilinga, 9. Andre Warner, 8. Francke Horn, 7. Emmanuel Tshituka, 6. Jaco Kriel (vc), 5. Willem Alberts, 4. Ruben Schoeman, 3. Carlu Sadie, 2. PJ Botha, 1. Sti Sithole. Replacements: 16. Morne Brandon, 17. Morgan Naude, 18. Ruan Dreyer, 19. Ruan Venter, 20. Ruhan Straeuli, 21. Sibusiso Sangweni, 22. Morne van den Berg, 23. Tiaan Swanepoel. Bulls: 15. Kurt-Lee Arendse, 14. Canan Moodie, 13. Lionel Mapoe, 12. Harold Vorster, 11. Madosh Tambwe, 10. Morné Steyn, 9. Embrose Papier; 8. Elrigh Louw, 7. Arno Botha, 6. Marcell Coetzee (c), 5. Ruan Nortje, 4. Walt Steenkamp, 3. Jacques van Rooyen, 2. Johan Grobbelaar, 1. Simphiwe Matanzima. Replacements: 16. Bismarck du Plessis, 17. Lizo Gqoboka, 18. Robert Hunt, 19. Janko Swanepoel, 20. Muller Uys, 21. Zak Burger, 22. Chris Smith, 23. David Kriel. |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2022 at 11:49am
| Ons het nou 'n perskonferensie gehad met Albert vd Berg..Vincent en Nothnagel se beserings is altwee langtermyn |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2022 at 11:52am
| agenee |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2022 at 12:32pm
| Ons het Nothnagel laasweek gemis in die lynstane en losgemale, en daai lostrio sonder Tshetuka gaan sukkel teen 'n baie fisiese Bulls pak (alhoewel Strauli nie sleg gedoen het in die oorseese toer en laas naweek nie). |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 25-Jan-2022 at 1:01pm
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Perskonferensie met Albert van den Berg (subscribe asseblief as julle nog nie het nie) https://youtu.be/BwQFJO6SpPk" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/BwQFJO6SpPk |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2022 at 9:47am
| Rasta Rasivhenge aangewys as skeidsregter. Ongelukkig rate ek hom nog steeds glad nie |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2022 at 12:52pm
Daar was n tyd wat ek hom gerate het maar daar was my n verandering in sy houding, ek weet nie of dit arogantheid is of wat nie maar sy houding van ek sê so en dit is so beinvloed sy oordeel …. Dit is asof hy deesdae nie eers vd TV ref wil luister nie … julle weet mos Rasta vat nie k@! nie
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Transvaal wrote:Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 26-Jan-2022 at 2:41pm
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Rasta in 'n goeie 7's ref. By 15 man rugby val hy soms uit die bus uit met sy vertolking van die skrum reels, asook by die afbreekpunte. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 10:10am
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Springbok Willem Alberts is set to start in the second row for the Emirates Lions ahead of their Round 9 Vodacom United Rugby Championship (VURC) encounter against the Vodacom Bulls
this Saturday.
He replaces Pieter Jansen van Vuren who suffered a pectoral muscle injury during training this week. This means that former Junior Springbok Ruan Venter, fresh from Carling Currie
Cup duty, could get an opportunity off the bench in the eagerly anticipated Jukskei Derby.
Emirates Lions Head Coach Ivan van Rooyen:
"I feel for Pieter. He worked so hard to come back from his knee injury he suffered on tour. We wish him a speedy recovery from this latest setback."
"The opportunity now awaits Ruan, who's had a fantastic past few months, including a SA Rugby U20 Cup winner’s medal. He could possibly get his chance on Saturday."
"Providing opportunities to young players is a common theme for us here at the franchise and it’s something we pride ourselves in."
"In the same breath, the entire squad buys into what we are trying to achieve in the VURC , so everyone plays a key part towards that goal, concluded van Rooyen."
Elsewhere, Emmanuel Tshituka wears the seven jersey, with PJ Botha coming in at hooker for the injured Jaco Visagie.
Morne Brandon, Ruhan Straeuli and Sibusiso Sangweni complete the new additions to the replacements.
Emirates Lions
15. EW Viljoen 14.Edwill van der Merwe 13. Wandisile Simelane 12. Burger Odendaal (c) 11. Sibahle Maxwane 10. Fred Zeilinga 9. Andre Warner 8. Francke Horn 7. Emmanuel Tshituka 6.
Jaco Kriel (vc) 5. Willem Alberts 4. Ruben Schoeman 3. Carlu Sadie 2. PJ Botha 1. Sti Sithole
Replacements 16. Morne Brandon 17. Morgan Naude 18. Ruan Dreyer 19. Ruan Venter 20. Ruhan Straeuli 21. Sibusiso Sangweni. 22.Morne van den Berg 23. Tiaan Swanepoel.
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 10:31am
| Ons gaan moet uithaal en wys.. hulle gaan vir ons voor hard kom. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 1:21pm
| Ek is 'n bietjie bekommerd oor die lynstane. Ons het nie 'n erkende no 5 slot nie. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 5:10pm
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pre-match konferensie https://youtu.be/dyQ71vGQRGM" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/dyQ71vGQRGM |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 5:14pm
| Die slot Pieter van Vuren is ook ernstig beseer, het Dinsdag in 'n oefening gebeur en hy is 5 maande uit |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 8:42pm
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Met al ons beserings van die laaste 3 weke, begin ek dink dit mag dalk 'n goeie ding wees dat ons maar die jong outjies speel in die CC. Ons gaan 'n hele paar van hulle dalk binnekort nodig hê in die URC. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 8:44pm
Ek kry skaam om te erken dat ek hom ook gerate het op 'n tyd (wat nie moeilik is met ons swak klomp refs hier in SA), maar hy is deesdae regtig pateties. Voel of hy voor die game begin al besluit het wie hy gaan beloon in die skrums.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2022 at 9:19pm
| Sjoe, daai bank lyk moerse kwesbaasr gemeet aan onlangse Curriebeker vertonings |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:02pm
| #URC - #Lions 0 vs #Bulls 0 - Kickoff! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:03pm
| #URC - #Lions 0 vs #Bulls 3 - 1m - STRAFSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:08pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 3 - 6m - STRAFSKOP Fred Zeilinga |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:14pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 6 - 11m - STRAFSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:20pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 11 - 16m - DRIE Johan Grobbelaar |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:21pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 13 - 17m - DOELSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:37pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 18 - 31m - DRIE Embrose Papier |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:38pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 20 - 32m - DOELSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:41pm
| #URC - #Lions 8 vs #Bulls 20 - 36m - DRIE Andre Warner |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:54pm
| omgekeer vir obstruksie, rustyd 20-3 |
Posted By: Billy6
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:58pm
| Kan ons nie eerder mielies plant op Ellispark. Seker ons sal beter investment kry! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 3:59pm
| Ons het nog nie rugby gespeel vandag nie. Dis asof ons effens in ons dop gekruip het. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:01pm
| Ons speel in hulle hande in. Ons was ook ongelukkig met 1 of 2 calls by die afbreekpunte. Rasta het hul nog nie eenkeer geblaas vir daglig nie. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:09pm
| Odendaal af met harsingskudding en Swanepoel in sy plek |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:17pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 25 - 52m - DRIE Arno Botha |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:17pm
| #URC - #Lions 3 vs #Bulls 27 - 53m - DOELSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:22pm
| #URC - #Lions 8 vs #Bulls 27 - 56m - DRIE Jaco Kriel |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:23pm
| #URC - #Lions 10 vs #Bulls 27 - 56m - DOELSKOP Tiaan Swanepoel |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:45pm
| Ons was regtig swak vandag. Ons het min geleenthede geskep, en meeste van dit verbrou. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:45pm
| #URC - #Lions 10 vs #Bulls 32 - 74m - DRIE Harold Vorster |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:45pm
| #URC - #Lions 10 vs #Bulls 34 - 74m - DOELSKOP Morne Steyn |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:47pm
| Die verskil tussen die 2 unies is dat die bulle spelers koop van die rykste unies in Europa, terwyl ons spelers koop by die pumas.... |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:52pm
| Ook die eindtelling, ongelukkig weer te veel foute en die Bulle het wurgrugby teen ons gespeel en dit was baie effektief teen ons |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 4:56pm
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Ons gaan eenvoudig ongelukkig nie kopeterend kan wees met so baie beserings, jou 2, 9 en 10 wat ñ baie 'af' dag het en die bestuur wie se recruitment nie op standaard is nie. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:10pm
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Al die spanne het beserings, so kom ons wees eerlik, ons kan dit nie daarop blameer nie. Ek blameer dit op die bestuur deurdat ons afrigting swak is, Cash nog daar is en deur hul swak speler kontraktering. Daar is nie regtig enige Lions spelers oor wie ek selfs opgewonde is wanneer hulle die bal kry nie, die eerste keer wat ek so voel in my 20+ jaar wat ek die Leeus ondersteun. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:11pm
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Ek is weereens bly ek meeste van die wedstryd gemis. Dankie Leeus, deur jul swak performances kry ek baie meer gedoen oor naweke. Thx Boys! ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:13pm
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I’ve said this before and everyone always thinks I’m being nasty , but the reality is the reality. We cannot compete without the funding of the other unions. Simple as that. We have an inexperienced coach that would get the job to coach Maties rugby team. We have players that have talent, but lacks cohesion. Management is squarely to blame and needs an overall. Altmann is a lions guy , imagine we had Rupert and Motsepe , or the American and super sport money of the sharks. We don’t and as long as that is the case we won’t be able to compete. Yes , we did well with “no names” from 2015 - 2018, but the world has changed since then and it’s adapt or die time
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:20pm
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Fred is in n donker gat, hom self probeer uit kry en net nog foute op foute. Dit is druk, dit is n span wat nie in hulself glo nie. Iemand moes na hom toe geloop het en met hom gepraat het. Ons het nie n identiteit op of van die veld af nie. Dit is n paar manne wat saam gegooi is om n span van 23 vol te maak, hulle speel nie meer vir mekaar nie. Dit was die eerste keer in jare wat ek ons sien so min lus lyk vir n game, die vet weet wat vandag daar aangegaan het, ons het die game verloor nog voor ons op die veld gestap het. Ons moet vinnig ontslae raak van verskonings en begin oplossings op die tafel sit. Wat ons in Desember gesien het en vandag is twee verskillende spanne. Desember se span het gelyk of hulle n plan het, vandag se "span" was nerens.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:30pm
I agree 100%. This fish is rotting from the head. Top management has made some shocking decisions the past few years, starting with making Ivan head coach and again when they should have gotten rid of him last year. Then we are also probably the team in the URC with the smallest budget, we really need to start looking at getting some other investment as I stated a year or so ago when I posted the info of all the owners of all the local teams. It is clear we have the least money of them all. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:32pm
Imagine if we could get Elon Musk aboard.....
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:39pm
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Ek soek altyd vir positiewe: Ons lynstane was beter as wat ek gedink het dit gaan wees. Ruan Venter het in die paar minute wat hy op was, lus gelyk vir speel. Krappie het weereens baie energie gebring. Tiaan lyk of hy dalk eerder die antwoord op 10 is as Fred, terwyl Jordan uit is. EW was redelik solid die laaste paar games. Ek wens daar was meer positiewe. Die mees ooglopende negatiewe: Ek het ook opgelet dat ons lynspoed op defence baie stadig was vandag. Die verdedigers het ook nie in n lyn opgegaan nie. Ek dink ons het die game al voor die afskop verloor.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 5:54pm
All jokes aside, imagine if we had owners who were actually willing to spend money and invest in the team. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 7:13pm
https://www.news24.com/News24/SA-rugby-culture-creates-people-like-Pistorius-Elon-Musks-father-20150722" rel="nofollow - https://www.news24.com/News24/SA-rugby-culture-creates-people-like-Pistorius-Elon-Musks-father-20150722 Dink nie hy stel veel belang in rugby nie. |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 7:16pm
Hy en sy pa se kant van die familie (die SA helfte van sy familie) het 'n rowwe geskiedenis. En ook meeste van sy geld is vas in sy aandele van hoofsaaklik SpaceX en Tesla, so hyt nie veel los kapitaal om iewers te belê nie. (Sien sy onlangse onderhoud op YouTube). ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 7:17pm
Al positief wat ek in die game kon sien is dat al speel ons so swak, het ons steeds nie met 100 punte verloor soos ons verdien nie, maar wag, die groot pakslae kom nog teen baie meer innoverende spanne. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 7:44pm
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Ivan en Jaco na die wedstryd
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 7:58pm
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https://youtu.be/axlR09XBFbs%20" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/axlR09XBFbs
Bulls Coach Jake White and Captain Marcell Coetzee after URC match Lions vs Bulls on 29 January 2022
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Jan-2022 at 9:37pm
Dankie vir die video. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 8:22am
Sorry , I made a typo. Meant to Se Ivan “wouldn’t” get the job to coach maties And I honestly believe that he won’t get that job if the lions fired him. Our plan was to rather take an incompetent and inexperienced coach , then surround him with X springboks as assistants and hope for the best. That’s not a strategy.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 11:31am
Jake White will only taje a coaching job if the union or club has enough money for him to buy the personnel he wants.
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 11:56am
Yes , we don’t have their money , so we need to make better plans to execute a strategy with limited resources. We can’t use it as an excuse , for inexcusable decision making. The coach is the single most important piece of the puzzel. And instead of investing where needed, we gamble with Cash and buy 10 wings and 20 flankers. We won’t fix our on field issues if we don’t fix our off field issues. I don’t blame Cash at all, he is probably trying his very best. But keeping him is literally the definition of insanity. We are wat way to critical of refs and players , but our biggest issue is that we don’t have our house in order
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 1:47pm
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Ek dink daar is bitter min afrigters wat 'n span average spelers kan saamsnoer en wereld klas maak. Dit gaan nie sommer weer gebeur wat Ackers hul reggekry het nie. En Cash is definitief nie daai klas afrigter nie. Ons het ook nie 'n leier in die klas van WW om die spelers aan te moedig nie. So ek is bevrees dat met hierdie groep afrigters en spelers gaan ons nerens kom nie.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 3:49pm
Presies, maar mens kan nie die afrigters en spelers blameer dat hulle hier is nie. Die mense wat hulle aangestel het en geteken het is te blameer, met ander woorde die bestuur. Ja, daar was COVID, maar Cash was aangestel voor dit al. Waar was die long term planning van die Ackerman-jare? Nee wat, die bestuur het net gehoop die goeie jare hou so aan en het nie beplan vir enige terugslae nie. Ja, wat met Swys gebeur het, was onvoorsiend, maar dit is weereens waar goeie bestiur dan backup planne moes gehad het en al het hulle nie, was dit steeds malligheid om n onervare afrigter aan te stel saam met n klomp ander onervare afrigters. Toe probeer hulle dit regstel deur van sy assistente ontslae te raak, maar hom te hou? Nee man, met sulke denkwyse kan hulle mos nie ernstig wees oor die span en unie nie. Mens kan stry dat selfs n Jake White nie veel met ons min begroting sou kon regkry nie, maar hel man, om net enigiemand aan te stel as afrigter agv daardie argument is mos simpel. Dit is soos om te erken dat ons nie eers hoef te probeer nie. Hel man, ek is regtig siek vir die unie.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 5:24pm
| Die komende naweek gaan net erger wees |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 6:42pm
| Daar was 'n paar belowende tekens met die oorsese toer sowel as die wegwedstryd teen die Stormers. Ek dink dat dit baie te doen gehad het met die nuwe hulpafrigters, sowel as die paar kwaliteitspelers in die groep. Hel, selfs een-dimensionele spelers soos Warner, Zeilinga en Viljoen het 'n begin goed lyk. Maar die afgelope weke se beserings het net weer gewys hoe min kwaliteitspelers daar in die groep is wat die span deur moeilike tye kan lig. Die grootste leemte by die unie is die swak bevoegdheid van top bestuur. Om dinge reg te ruk gaan wees soos om 'n vliegtuig in vlug reg te maak. |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 30-Jan-2022 at 7:07pm
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L I don’t judge cash for bad performances. If I have an employee that is not performing or not ready for a role (irrespective of their potential), I need to fix the problem as I am accountable for strategy. Not doing that is not a failure on the employees part , it’s a failure on my part. Hence my agitation with lions management Anyone that thinks things will magically turn around is simply delusional and it’s time to wake up and smell the roses. Enough is enough .
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 9:00am
| Niela, enough was enough two years ago already. The ship is not sinking, it is already a coral reef. Probably the reason why we do not have a big "business" pumping in the money. Was surprised to see all the comments, didn't know there are still so many people willing to mess up their Saturdays... |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 9:25am
| Julle ouens is darem baie swartgallig, ons was baie goed teen die Stormers 'n maand gelede, en nie so sleg teen die Sharks laas naweek nie. Bulle het ons net doodgewurg met wurg rugby, baie moeilik om dit te counter |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 10:03am
Miskien is jy reg, maar dit vat nie weg wat Jaco Kriel self gesê het nie, dit was vir my baie opvallend gewees, selfs toe hulle op die veld gedraf het kon mens dit sien. In die verlede het almal saam getrek en mekaar in die oë gekyk, ek hoop hulle doen dit vandag, want as jy nie up to it is nie, wat soek jy dan daar. |
Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 10:11am
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Wat vir my ook erg is dat party mense gelukkig was met ons vertoning teen die Sharks. Die ergste van Sharks wedstryd was dat as ons basiese goed reg gedoen het het ons daai wedstryd maklik gewen. Maar ons hou aan met spelers soos PJ Botha wat dieselfde foute oor en oor maak en 'n great jong opkomende speler soos MJ Pelser kry nie eers kans in Currie Beker nie nie. Ek was persoonlik baie teleurgesteld oor die Sharks vertoning ook. Toegegee was ons baie goed teen Stomers gewees ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 12:13pm
Hoe kan n span wat 3 SR finals in n ry gespeel het , net dood eenvoudig useless word in 3 jaar. Dit is shocking , ons het jare gewag vir n leeus span wat kan compete . Ons was nog Altyd sub par gewees nou is ons net nowhere |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 12:41pm
Ons staan op 2 wenne uit 7 in die URC. En tensy ons drasties verbeter gaan ons nie 'n klomp meer wenne kry nie.
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Posted By: Blou
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 1:07pm
| Eina! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 31-Jan-2022 at 2:06pm
Nogals eina as jy met 'n WC winning coach en 'n klomp sterre en bokke in jou span sit en jy staan ook op 2 uit 7 
MAAR, mens kan sien die bulle het 'n visie en 'n plan, en ek glo hulle sal net beter doen van hier af. Kan ongelukkig nie dieselfde van die leeus se nie |
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