LIONS READY TO 'RESTRUCTURE' FOR MOVE NORTH
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Topic: LIONS READY TO 'RESTRUCTURE' FOR MOVE NORTH
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: LIONS READY TO 'RESTRUCTURE' FOR MOVE NORTH
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2021 at 8:55am
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The Lions Rugby Company is set to ‘restructure’ their coaching team, but Chief Executive Officer Rudolf Straeuli dismissed rumours that he will return as an on-field coach. Reports of changes to the Lions’ coaching setup has been gushing from the rumour wellspring for a few weeks now, with suggestions that head coach Ivan van Rooyen will be shown the exit door. Straeuli, who functions as both CEO and the Director of Rugby, confirmed to However, he said the ‘restructuring’ is due to the many competition structure changes and the move to the United Rugby Championship in the Northern Hemisphere. “I will hopefully be able to confirm those changes in due course,” Straeuli told this website, adding that it would not be appropriate to speculate in the media. “The Currie Cup competition [which runs to its conclusion early next month] will restart in January – while the URC is still ongoing. “It is impractical to have one set of coaches running teams for two competitions,” the Lions boss added. The reports of the coaching changes and the rumours of Straeuli’s return to coaching were heightened by the team enduring one of its worst seasons in recent years. The Lions have won just two matches in the 2021 Currie Cup season – beating Western Province 38-32 and Griquas 45-42 – also drawing 44-all with the Cheetahs. They also got points for two cancelled matches. Six defeats later and the men from Johannesburg are stuck at the bottom of the Currie Cup standings – below the Cheetahs, who were kicked out of Europe, and the two ‘minnows’, Griquas and the Pumas. What the role of current coach Ivan van Rooyen will be after the restructuring also remains uncertain. Van Rooyen said everything he is doing is “team orientated” and “team first”. “We are all entering negotiation stages,” he said of the uncertainty around the coaching staff. “Those decisions and discussions are taking place at a higher [boardroom] level,” he said, adding that he will look to get the team ready for their fifth game in 15 days – against the Sharks at Ellis Park on Saturday. Van Rooyen joined the Lions as a Strength and Conditioning coach in 2009 and was part of the franchise’s successful era – when they reached three successive Super Rugby finals in 2016, 2017 and 2018. He was promoted to head coach after Swys de Bruin, the successor to Johan Ackermann, retired due to stress-related health issues. However, the Lions have gone into decline during Van Rooyen’s tenure – a situation exacerbated by the COVID-19 restrictions and subsequent cash crunch in the game. |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2021 at 9:00am
| So wat hulle se is dat die URC en Curriebeker in Januarie 2022 gaan oorvleuel, so ons gaan 'n URC en Curriebeker afrigter moet he. En 2 squads |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2021 at 11:02am
| Soos ek die unie ken sal hulle n nuwe hoofafrigter aanstel seker n week voor die URC begin , dit is nou as hulle een gaan aanstel om by te sê |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 8:31am
| Andre Bester van SupaRugby reken Matfield gaan die nuwe afrigter wees. Ek dink dis 'n moerse fout, sou veel eerder 'n afrigter wou he wat homself op 'n hoe vlak bewys het |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 8:50am
Stem. Ek het nog nooit van Matfield gehou nie. En hy lyk netnie reg in Lions rooi nie. Hy is 'n blou bul deur en deur
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Transvaal wrote:Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 9:08am
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Ek sal ook redelik teleurgesteld wees as Matfield wel as hoofafrigter aangestel word, maar.... Enige iemand is op die stadium beter as wat ons het. Matfield se tegniese kennis is goed. As hy die spelers bymekaar kan trek om vir mekaar te speel en 'n wedstrydsplan kan ontwikkel wat by ons huidige spelers pas, kan ons nie slegter doen as nou nie... Ek sal nogsteeds eerder vir Stonehouse of jv Rensburg verkies. ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 10:36am
| Ek dink ook Stonehouse sal goed wees. Ons nuwe Finasiele guru kom mos van Pumas af, dalk kan hy die buffer wees tussen die wat reken Stonehouse is disruptive en Stonehouse self... |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 11:16am
| Alhoewel Matfield baie kennis oor die jare opgebou het, het hy tot dusver nie regtig die nodige entoesiasme of honger gewys om af te rig nie, en dit is krities vir 'n spansport soos rugby. Daai geld sal beter gespandeer word om iemand soos JP Ferreira van Munster te kry.Ek is ook nogal beindruk met wat jong afrigters soos Scott Mathee en Albert van der Berg (en Janse van Rensburg) die afgelop 2 jaar vir Griekwas uitgerighet het. Om oud Leeu staatmakers soos Andre Pretorius en Jacques Fourie te betrek om aanvals en verdediging tekorte op te knap is nie 'n slegte idee nie. |
Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 11:54am
| Dit hang seker ook maar af wie dadelik beskikbaar is en wie belangstel. Dalk is Matfield en Fourie die enigste realistiese opsies. |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 11:55am
Stem saam. Ons is weer op die verkeerde pad en maak weer te vinnig besluite..
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Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 2:38pm
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Te minste met Matfield in beheer is ek seker hy sal Swys betrek vir advies want hulle kom lank pad saam. Ek glo nog steeds dat 'n Swys 'n baie groot deel van Lions se vorige sukses gehad het. Die belangrikste van 'n hoof coach is om die spelers te motiveer en die regte mense te betrek om hom te help om spelers reg af te rig. Dit is beslis 'n beter keuse as Cash wat geen ervaring as coach gehad het nie en ook nooit groot rugby gespeel het nie. Hulle se Fourie du Preez kan ook baie waardevol wees! ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 3:52pm
| kom mense, Matfield rig nie eers tans af sover ek weet nie, hoe kan ons tevrede met so aanstelling wees? |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 4:23pm
Stem ons is nie nou in n posisie om afrigters uit te probeer nie. Daai lysie het Andre Pretorius seker die meeste afrigtings ondervinding maar ek is bang hy doen n besering op 😜😜
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 4:38pm
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 4:51pm
Haha, ja nee kyk... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 5:33pm
------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 5:44pm
Ek dink ons almal is net al so moedeloos dat ons na strooi halms gryp... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 7:35pm
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Ek sien die nuutste is dat Matfield nie meer die afrigter gaan wees nie. Het glo te veel "eise" en dat Matthew Proudfoot se naam nou genoem word... Ek is nou nie snaaks nie, maar dan verkies ek eerder vir Matfield. ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 8:38pm
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 8:58pm
| Ek stem Valie en ek sien hy het vir edinburgh en glasglow gespeel so ek dink hy het baie ondervinding met daai halfrond se rugby sal ons baie help en ek dink hy het goeie ondervinding en reputasie daar baie manne wat onder hom sal wil speel en hy lok dalk n paar goeie ander coaches wat onder hom kan werk wat baie sal help |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 9:27pm
| Dink julle ons het daai tipe geld? |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2021 at 10:09pm
| Beslis 'n groot verbetering op Matfield, maar betwyfel sterk of ons die geld het, en of hy bereid is om 'n hospitaal job by ons te kom oorneem. |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 5:50am
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Nee, ek weet darem nie. Hy het geen ondervinding as hoofafrigter nie en niemand wou hom hê as voorspelerafrigter behalwe Alister Coetzee nie. Hy het maar aangebly na AC weg is en op Rassie se sukses se golf gery... O ja en onthou Bongi is net so goed soos Marx.... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 7:24am
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Sjoe, die name wat rondgegooi word maak my bang.. Weereens het ons geen ambisie (ja ek weet ons het geen geld ook nie). Maar hel, die bulle sit met 'n world cup winning coach. WP het op een stadium Eddie Jones aangestel.. Kan ons nie maar ook droom van 'n wereldklas afrigter nie? Waarom moet dit local ouens wees wat of gladnie afrig nie, of minnow spanne afrig?
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 8:05am
| Why is Stonehouse not being mentioned, he has proved his coaching ability over and over again at the Pumas. What he manages to achieve with a bunch of "no name brands" is commendable and he deserves an opportunity with a larger union. |
Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 8:59am
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The question is why Stonehouse has not been considered by any other Big Union? Perhaps he is too arrogant, has not yet won any Cups and have not yet coached at International Level. See that Matt Proudfoot is being considered which I think will be ideal. He has coached the Springboks and England as assistant coach and I think is ready for the next level of being head coach ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 9:00am
Noudat ek daaroor dink, hy sal dalk 'n goeie kopie wees vir ons. Hy werk nou al 2 jaar saam Eddie Jones by Engeland. Hul web page: "South Africa’s RWC winning assistant coach in 2019, was appointed as an England Forwards Coach for the 2020 Six Nations. Born in Klerksdorp, he won four Scotland caps as a prop from 1998/2003 and also played for Northern Transvaal, Melrose, Edinburgh, Glasgow Warriors, the Leopards and the Blue Bulls. A scrum specialist, he worked with the Stormers, Western Province and Kobe Steel Kobelco Steelers in Japan before joining the South Africa coaching team as an assistant in 2016. Under his guidance, North-West University lifted the 2008 National Club Championship.
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Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 9:13am
| ek dink ons is gelukkig dat iemand soos hy even belangstelling toon |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 9:37am
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 10:06am
Reminds me a bit of John Mitchel, competent bur very difficult to work with in a bureaucratic environment. Probably the reason that even the Bulls were not interested in hiring him. Think he feels much more content with a smaller union where he is the focal point and the administration is there to serve him (probably the way it should be, but that is another discussion).
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:24am
1. Hy is heewaarskynlik nog vas onder kontrak by die Pumas, en hulle sal hom nie sommer net laat gaan nie. 2. Hy wil dalk nie Stad toe trek nie. 3. Hy wil dalk nie die Leeus afrig nie.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:25am
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:42am
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Ek het net so bietjie terug in die geskiedenis gaan kyk, hierdie was ons Curriebeker squad van 2018: Jacobie Adriaanse, Stephen Bashera, Driaan Bester, Andries Coetzee, Ashlon Davids, Hacjivah Dayimani, Pikkie de Villiers, Corne Fourie, Selom Gavor, Rhyno Herbst, Pieter Jansen, Marco Jansen van Vuren, Johannes Jonker, Sylvian Mahuza, Len Massyn, Siya Masuku, Danie Mienie, Howard Mnisi, Reinhard Nothnagel, Siya Nzuzo, Shaun Reynolds, Bheki Shongwe, Wandisile Simelane, Sti Sithole, Courtnall Skosan, Dillon Smit, Madosh Tambwe, James Venter, Anthony Volmink. Net 4 van die 29 spelers is nog met ons. So ons het 25 spelers verloor in 3 jaar
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:44am
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Hierdie was die 2018 Super Rugby squad van 40 spelers: Jacobie Adriaanse, Cyle Brink, Andries Coetzee, Robbie Coetzee, Ruan Combrinck, Ross Cronje, Ashlon Davids, Hacjivah Dayimani, Ruan Dreyer, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Willie Engelbrecht, Lourens Erasmus, Andries Ferreira, Corne Fourie, Rhyno Herbst, Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Marco Jansen van Vuren, Elton Jantjies, Johannes Jonker, Jaco Kriel, Robert Kruger, Sylvian Mahuza, Lionel Mapoe, Malcolm Marx, Len Massyn, Christiaan Meyer, Howard Mnisi, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, Shaun Reynolds, Marnus Schoeman, Sti Sithole, Courtnall Skosan, Dillon Smit, Dylan Smith, Kwagga Smith, Madosh Tambwe, Jacques van Rooyen, Harold Vorster , Warren Whiteley. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:46am
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5 van die 40 is nog met ons.. So in 3 jaar se tyd het ons 4 van 29 Curriebeker spelers behou en 5 van 40 Super Rugby spelers. Dit verduidelik presies waarom ons is waar ons is
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 11:49am
| Skosan gaan vir die Northampton Saints speel |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:17pm
Wow! Ek wonder hoe lyk daai getalle by die ander 3 groot unies..? Ek vermoed hulle het ook baie spelers verloor oor die laaste paar jaar. maar die verskil is, hul vervang daai spelers weer met ander kwaliteit spelers.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:30pm
| Ek het geweet ons het baie spelers verloor maar nie besef dit was so erg tot ek nou gaan kyk het nie. Ons het basies 87.5% van ons Super Rugby squad verloor in 3 jaar, geen span kan seker nie die gevolge van sulke groot spelerverliese systap nie? |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:31pm
| Van die 5 super rugby squad wat nog by ons is, is 2 ouens wat gewaai het en toe weer terug gekom het, naamlik Dreyer en Jaco Kriel. |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:45pm
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Transvaal, ek het so vinnig gegoogle vir die Bulls se 2018 super rugby squad. As ek so daarna kyk is daar ook bitter min van daai spelers nogsteeds by hulle. So ek glo nie dit is 'n probleem uniek aan ons nie. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:50pm
| Sit 26 beserings by ons huidige squad, en skielik kom dinge meer in perspektief. Dis hoekom ek nie noodwendig dink alles kan voor Cash se deur gele word nie. Min ander afrigters sou veel beter vaar met dit wat hy mee moes werk. |
Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:51pm
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:52pm
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 12:59pm
Behalwe as ek ouens gemis het, het hulle 3 spelers oor van 2018 se squad. Die verskil le nie in wie hulle verloor het nie, dit le in wie hulle daai spelers mee vervang!
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 1:03pm
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O ja Ivan van Zyl was ook in 2018 daar, en is nogsteeds Johan Goosen Morne Steyn Harold Vorster Lionel Mapoe Duane Vermeulen (ok hy is al n ruk by hul) Marcell Coetzee Gio Aplon Cornal Hendricks Daai is almal voormalige bokke.
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 1:12pm
| Marco van Staden was ook iewers daar in die mix, hy het in 2018 Springbok geword. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 2:01pm
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 4:00pm
7 van hulle is nou Leeus.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 4:02pm
| 7 jy vergeet van Warner |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 4:08pm
Jacques van Rooyen Arno Botha Beide ook baie goeie spelers. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2021 at 6:49pm
En hulle sit weer met n klomp van ons spelers. Nadat meeste van daai spelers by ons bokke geword het. Die bulle was ons geteken het was nooit ster spelers nie
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Posted By: Scrubba
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2021 at 7:37am
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NEVER been an Andre Warner Fan.... there are FAR better Scrummies around for me.. Jaco VIsagie is probably best purchase of the lot here, the rest have failed to impress. Burger has been decent. and Matthews when not injured has done well... But it is worrying all our BOKS have jumped... Somebody aske dme the other day (who doesnt follow rugby) if the lions wer emaybe struggling because they had too many players at the springboks... LOL ... i said... we have NOBODY involved witht he BOks at the moment
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2021 at 8:41am
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Poor coaching has a knock on effect... We can not expect to have players playing for the national team when we end dead last is the local competition. I stongly believe that if we were 1st players like Tshituka, Sadie, Simelane, Maxwane and even Odendaal would have been involved with the Boks. But they will not get a chance to prove themselves at international level because the team they represent is underperforming. How many Springboks did we have at the start of 2014? I can only think of Elton Jantjies... Then we were losing finalists and went on to be unbeaten in the 2015 campaign and in 2016 all of a sudden we had numerous Springboks, mostly players snubbed by other unions. This is also why we are losing quality players. They know that they have to play for a winning team to be able to get noticed... So our players are not getting picked by the boks because we are underperforming, they leave, we get even worse, more players leave etc. etc.... We need a good quality coach and management to stop this cycle, get the players to buy into a game plan and believe in themselves.... Then we will start winning again and our players will be called up to the national team and we will attract better players etc... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2021 at 4:17pm
Back in the dark days we pretty much only had Jaques Fourie in the Bok squad, until he left as well.
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2021 at 5:41pm
Same with Jano Vermaak ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Scrubba
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2021 at 1:38pm
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Very True. the better the team perfoms the higher the odds of bok selection. Saw the under 20 team line up earlier, looks ike heaps of talent in the line up, they must be retained and brought through to the senior team in the next few years. Henco Van Wyk, Izan Esterhuizen, Ngia Selengbe, Quon Horn, Heiko Pohlman all potential stars one day.
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2021 at 4:50pm
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Many of the guys playing now we're the 'potential stars one day' but have obviously not performed. I still believe with a better coach these guys could be great. Losing lots of players through transfers and injury does not make you play without a gameplan. It doesn't make your line-outs bad, it does not make your defensive structure ineffective, or make your attack unimaginative and predictable. These are all coaching issues. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2021 at 6:50pm
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Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2021 at 9:33pm
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Die coach maak die grootste verskil. Kyk maar toe Jake White by Strauli en Rassie by Alister as coach oorgeneem by die Springbokke. Die Springbok spelers het skielik verander van die slegste spelers in die wereld na van die bestes in die wereld. "n Coach is net so belangrik as 'n CEO by 'n maatskappy. Die Coach maak seker dat daar die regte motivering by die span is en dat spelers in hulle self glo en dus minder foute maak. Daai foute is agv van druk op die spelers en die coach wat nie die spelers die nodige self vertroue gegee het om hulle beste te lewer en minder foute te maak en om span saam te speel en vir mekaar te speel. Veral in die geval van jong spelers is daar min coaches wat goed met hulle kan werk. Swys de Bruin was veral goed om die beste uit jong spelers te kry. ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2021 at 10:31am
| Een van die rykste besigheidsmanne het die volgende stelling gemaak..." When a manager with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a bad reputation, it is the reputation of the business that mostly remains intact" Dieselfde geld vir rugby. Rerwyl groot unies soos die WP sukkel, selfs met bekwame afrigters soos Rassie, is daar klein unies soos Griekwas en die Pumas wat oorpresteer met hulle beperkte hulpbronne, meestal omdat top bestuur goeie besluite maak en ook omdat alles gerig is om die afrigtingspan by te staan. Die afrigter het 'n groot se oor die opstel van sy afrigtingspan, kontraktering van spelers ens. |
Posted By: Leeus of niks
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2021 at 4:13pm
| as ek die ander spanne sien speel dan wil ek se ons fiksheid is nie wat dit was nie. Gewoonlik waar altitude op ellispark in ons guns gespeel het daai laaste 20 minute wil dit lyk of ons die ergste sukkel dan. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2021 at 4:40pm
| Ek sien dis nou amptelik dat Warren Sharks to gaan. |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 5:44am
Yup https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/watch-whiteley-bids-lions-emotional-farwell/ |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 6:53am
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstMzKPo0WU%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstMzKPo0WU |
Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 7:07am
| Ek sien Rapport se Cash bly aan as Hoof afrigter van Leeus vir URC. Ricardo Loubscher, Jacques Fourie en Albert van den Berg kom by as Afrigters... |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 7:54am
| Moontlik is daar maar net nie geld vir 'n nuwe ervare afrigter nie |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 8:33am
Vol planne.. hoop dit kom tot iets
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 9:30am
| Ek het my respek verloor vir Jaque Fourie daai tyd toe hy weg is by ons |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 10:20am
Self, baie grootkop getrek. Hoop maar hy het bietjie iets geleer
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 10:22am
Sover ek onthou was Jaque een van die min kwaliteit spelers wat vir 7 of 8 jaar lojaal was toe ons in die doldrums was. Ek dink hy was net uiteindlik gatvol vir die onbevoegdheid met die unie.
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Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 10:30am
| ek weet nie so mooi nie, dit lyk of die unie net nuwe mense intrek en hoop vir die beste. As cash gaan aanbly dan weet ek regtig nie. Die unie is beslis nie op n goeie plek nie. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 2:12pm
| Ek sien die Leeus se hulle maak more die aankondiging, maar die ou van Rapport is baie connected so hy is seker reg |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 2:17pm
| Ek hoop daar is darem versterkings in die spelers geledere ook |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 2:30pm
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Met Cash wat bly is daar eenvoudig net nie enige hoop nie. Ek sou selfs hoopvol gewees het as Andre Pretorius kon oorvat as afrigter, maar die "rumours" dat Cash aanbly het my nou totaal en al gatvol vir die unie... Ek hoor wat julle sê oor bou en spelers verloor ens ens... Maar die Griekwas is in die Semi, die Pumas was amper ook daar... Hoeveel van ons huidige spelers sou julle ruil vir hulle Griekwa/ Puma eweknieë? Ek is done... Ek gaan nie myself verder bekommer oor Leeu rugby nie. My lapa sal maar volgende week 'n revamp moet kry, ek raak ontslae van al my Lions branded items... Sal dit maar wegpak en stoor tot ons beatuur eendag vervang is met iemand wat ten minste omgee oor Leeu rugby... Ek is nou officially nie meer 'n Leeu ondersteuner nie... 30 jaar... Dit was meestal maar frustrerend maar van 2014 tot 2017, was my lekkerste jare as leeu ondersteuner... Moes dit seker al lankal gedoen het... Sal ongelukkig ook geen ander SA span kan ondersteun nie, en stel nie veel belang in die ander lande se rugby nie, so dit beteken dan ook maar eitlik ek is dan klaar met rugby... ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 2:55pm
| Ek hou op kyk as Cash hoofafrigter bly |
Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 3:19pm
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 6:55pm
Watse ondervinding het Fourie en v d Berg? Met alle respek teenoor hierdie 4 manne, hierdie is skokkend deur die unie se bestuur. Leer hul nie? Sit onervare aftigters in ñ onmoontlike posisie. Forkit, dis swak. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2021 at 7:01pm
 ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 6:57am
Ja nee.. daai was confusing.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 7:27am
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Wat die unie nie besef nie is hoe baie ondersteuners hul gaan verloor deur Cash te behou. Soos Witboer is almal gatvol vir hierdie sirkus van 'n rugby span, en ongelukkig vir hom was Cash verantwoordelik daarvoor. Ek stem dat om nog 'n paar onervare afrigters in die diepkant te gooi is 'n recipe for disaster. Ons het nou 'n ervare afrigter nodig wat die sinkende skip kan red. Ons is in vir 'n rowwe tyd... Ek sal baie verbaas wees as ons NIE laaste op die URC log eindig nie
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 8:09am
As dit so aangaan, gaan ons, ons plek verloor in die URC en die Cheetahs gaan ons plek vat. Wat hul eintlik nou al verdien. Wel, hul en die Griekwas en die Pumas. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 8:38am
| Wel kom ons kyk wat word vandag aangekondig, dis redelik seker wat ons gaan hoor van die afrigtingspan, maar ek hoop vir 'n paar ekstra spelers om die span te versterk. Dalk 'n goeie haker, 2 goeie slotte, 'n lekker losvoorspeler en dalk 'n paar spelers agterlangs ook |
Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 8:58am
| Ek sien op Suparugby die mense braak behoorlik gal oor hierdie sirkus. Daar is ook bewerings dat die Afrigter alleen nie die probleem is nie. Mense bestuur deur die hooggeplaastes in die organisasie is ook blykbaar staaldraad streng en dit is na bewering een van die redes vir die speler en personeel omset. Als net rumours maar mens kan nie help om te wonder nie... |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 8:59am
Ons sal ongelukkig die nuwe afrigtingspan moet kans gee om hulself te bewys. Toe John Mitchel weg is by ons, het almal (ek inkluis) gedink dis n fout om Ackermann aan te stel as hoofafrigter (hy het ook geen ondervinding gehad nie), en kyk hoe het dit toe uitgewerk. |
Posted By: J J
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 9:06am
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Vir my is die Leeus bestuur die probleem. Kom ons kyk na die Bulle as voorbeeld. Toe Nollis Marais nie die mas opkom as afrigter nie het bestuur die besluit gemaak om hom te vervang. Ek onthou ook vroeg in die jare 2000 was die Bulle ook baie swak en die oud splers het aangedring met n vergadering met bestuur om te hoor wat gaan aan. Dit voel vir my asof daar geen dringendheid is van bestuur om die situasie reg te ruk nie. Ek glo al die unies is geraak deur die pandemie met baie minder inkomste maar tog as ons na ons bure kyk lyk dit nie so nie. Ek glo Jake White is nie goedkoop nie, en al die nuwe speler aanwinste kos ook n paar rand, maar dit lyk nie na n probleem nie, altans nie van die oog af nie. Dit vir my dui alles op bestuur wat nie tevrede is met hulle situasie nie en doen dinge om dit reg te stel. Ek kyk al vir meer as n jaar nie rugby nie juis om 2 redes 1. Politiek in die sport en 2. die Leeus se onvermoe om dinge wat verkeerd is reg te stel. Ek bly darem op hoogte wat gebeur in die rugby wereld van die Leeus deur daagliks die forum te besoek om te sien wat gebeur.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 9:22am
Hoe gaan dinge enigsins anders wees as die hoof afrigter aanbly? Wat hierdie skuif deur die unie insinieer is dat die span kak is danksy al die hulp afrigters? MAW Albert vd berg is beter as WW as lynstaan ou? Of beter as Lemmer as voorspeler afrigter? En gaan Cash nou terugstaan sodat hierdie ouens nou die besluite maak en die span regruk? Waarvoor is hy dan nog daar en verdien die salaris van 'n hoof afrigter?
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Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 10:14am
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 10:16am
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 1:24pm
Hy was 'n great speler en great kaptein. En daarna dalk 'n goeie motiveerder, maar ons lynstane is pateties. Baie dankie en alles van die beste. ------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 1:39pm
------------- Up the Vaal! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 2:30pm
| As dit net Edwill is dan is dit effens van 'n non-event |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 2:47pm
| Ons het 'n paar ysters in die pak dringend nodig, dis waar ons probleme begin, nie juis op vleuel nie, alhoewel Rabz en Stean Pienaar ook nie juis die wereld aan die brand gespeel het nie |
Posted By: True loin
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 2:56pm
| middag almal. hoe laat gaan hul dan nou aankondig? |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 3:00pm
Wil ek ook weet...
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 4:11pm
| LOL....van twitter - >The Lions Rugby Company is excited to welcome Edwill van der Merwe to Johannesburg! |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 4:28pm
| Dis pateties, net weereens bewys hoe mediocre ons unie is . |
Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 4:30pm
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Kyk dit is n briljante kopie. Ons huidige vleuels is swak. Hopelik kom daar nog goeie kopies. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 4:55pm
| Dis soos wanneer jou kar se enjin snaakse geluide maak dan koop jy 'n nuwe globe vir die flikkerlig om dit reg te maak |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 5:01pm
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Die mense is maar orals ongelukkig oor die naweek se nuus oor die afrigters. As hulle weer begin wen, dan het die bestuur die regte besluit gemaak, as hulle aanhou verloor, het hulle die verkeerde besluit gemaak. Ek dink nie op papier gaan ons vooraf weet wat gaan gebeur nie. Ons het baie hoop gehad vir Dick, hy het ons goed sleg gemaak, baie mense het gewonder oor Ackers, hy was weer die beste. Ek dink ons kan saamstem, die probleem is nie noodwendig net by Cash nie, ons het baie diepte en ondervinding verloor oor die tydperk wat hy in beheer was, dieselfde het met Swys gebeur, met n goeie kern ook nie rerig ons standaard gehou nie. Mens kort nuwe idees, kyk hoe sleg het Ludeke op die ou einde gedoen, toe sy kern groep ook nie meer daar was nie, sy planne van die verlede was ook gebou om daai spelers. Ek hoop net ons kry nuwe idees en verbeter op die basics, ons kannie so voortneuk nie. |
Posted By: Lion1986
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2021 at 5:07pm
Dit is waar. Hopelik kry ons slotte en hakers. Maar dit vat nie weg van die kopie af nie
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