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Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Lions Rugby Co Player Announcement
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 10:35am
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The Lions Rugby Company would like to take the opportunity to thank all of their staff and players for understanding and embracing the difficult and very challenging times that was forced upon them by COVID-19.

It truly takes special people to make a place special and the Lions family will always remain true to what they stand for, even in trying times.

As one of the terms of the Industry Salary Plan (ISP) to deal with the repercussions of Covid-19, SA Rugby introduced a 21-day window allowing for players and staff to cancel their current contracts with immediate effect.

With that said, we would like to announce that we will part ways with the following people who have been an integral part of the Lions for some time:

-         Malcolm Marx

-         Ruan Vermaak

-         Tyrone Green

-         Shaun Reynolds

-         Neil de Bruin

Rudolf Straeuli, Chief Executive Officer of the Lions Rugby Company, thanked them for their valuable contributions, some of them having formed part of the Lions since their school-going days.

“There is always a big sense of loss and sadness when we lose family members. We wish them well on their journey ahead and thank them for some very special times spent with the Lions,” Straeuli said.

The Lions Rugby Company and EPS (Pty) Ltd have appointed a COVID-19 task team that will ensure their premises are safe for staff to return to work once prohibited to do so.




Replies:
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 11:06am
OuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuch

Kannie glo Green waai nie. Malcolm het ons geweet is n storie, maar nie verwag met die "gap" wat ons hom gegee het dat hy nou waai nie.


Posted By: Leeu1975
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 11:19am
Regtig jammer oor Marx, Green & Reynolds wat waai.
Ons het rerig oor die afgelope tyd goeie spelers verloor. Een van die dae speel ons span weer om die hout lepel of erger, vir relegasie. Swaar tye wat voorle.


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Gebore Leeu-ondersteuner


Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 11:21am
Ek is baie bly dat Neil de Bruin waai. In sy 3 jaar of wat as aanvalsafrigter het dit gevoel of ons aanval agteruit gaan. Ja, daar is baie ander faktore wat bydra, maar hy moet die grootste deel van die blaam daarvoor dra voel ek. Lassjaar het ons nog 'n dominante skrum gehad, maar ons aanval en balhantering het definitief agteruit gegaan


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Go LIONS!!!!!


Posted By: Leeu1975
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 11:22am
waantoe is Marx oppad?

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Gebore Leeu-ondersteuner


Posted By: Tiny
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 11:59am

Hopelik steek die nuwe en jong manne hulle hande op om die oop posisie the vul.

As n speller wil gaan laat hy gaan dit werk nou maar net so.
 
Hopelik sien ons weer eendag rugby. As ook wen leeu rugby.


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:01pm
Al 5 is n groot terugslag, maar ons moes dit seker maar sien kom het. Ek is net verbaas oor Marx, veral nadat hy gese het hy kan nie wag om terug te wees by sy Leeus familie nie. Die afrigters moet nou solank vir PJ Botha en daai baby bok haker begin blootstelling gee. Hulle het beide die potensiaal om ver te kom.
Op 10 het ons darem vir Lombard, indien Elton ook waai, met Tiaan Swanepoel en James Mollentze wat beide eintlik losskakels is.
Die feit dat die gebeur terwyl ons besig is om in elk geval te herbou, kan dalk vorentoe n bedekte seen wees.


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:03pm
Ek hoop maar daai spelers gaan eerder oorsee, want dit sal darem baie sleg wees as ouens soos Marx en Tyrone na een van die ander SA franchises toe gaan...


Posted By: Tin
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:09pm
Reels met die 21 dae ding is dat hul net oorsee mag gaan, net in uitsonderlike gevalle en met spesiale toestemming in SA bly


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:37pm
Tin ek hoop rerig jy is reg. Ek bol myself toe as hulle na ander SA unies gaan Dead


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:44pm
Ok ek sien Marx gaan Japan toe en Green blykbaar Harlequins in Brittanje toe...


Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 12:51pm
Ek sien Ackermann is nou weg by Gloucester en Vermaak gaan by hom aansluit in Japan... 

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"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 2:53pm
Ouens, waarom is ons die enigste SA span wat spelers lek? Sharks het aangekondig hul verloor 1 speler. Al hul ander bokke bly. Ek is nie bewus van enige WP bokke/spelers wat waai nie. Bulls koop links en reg nuwe spelers, nevermind die WC winning coach wat hul ook gekoop het. 

So wat de F0K gaan by die leeus aan???


Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ouens, waarom is ons die enigste SA span wat spelers lek? Sharks het aangekondig hul verloor 1 speler. Al hul ander bokke bly. Ek is nie bewus van enige WP bokke/spelers wat waai nie. Bulls koop links en reg nuwe spelers, nevermind die WC winning coach wat hul ook gekoop het. 

So wat de F0K gaan by die leeus aan???

kalmeer ou, al die franchises verloor spelers, hier is die name wat ons sover het:

Bulls: Johnny Kotze, Manie Libbok
Lions: Malcolm Marx, Tyrone Green, Ruan Vermaak, Shaun Reynolds
Sharks: Andre Esterhuizen, Tyler Paul, Andisa Ntsila
Stormers: Wilco Louw, Dillyn Leyds


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ouens, waarom is ons die enigste SA span wat spelers lek? Sharks het aangekondig hul verloor 1 speler. Al hul ander bokke bly. Ek is nie bewus van enige WP bokke/spelers wat waai nie. Bulls koop links en reg nuwe spelers, nevermind die WC winning coach wat hul ook gekoop het. 

So wat de F0K gaan by die leeus aan???

kalmeer ou, al die franchises verloor spelers, hier is die name wat ons sover het:

Bulls: Johnny Kotze, Manie Libbok
Lions: Malcolm Marx, Tyrone Green, Ruan Vermaak, Shaun Reynolds
Sharks: Andre Esterhuizen, Tyler Paul, Andisa Ntsila
Stormers: Wilco Louw, Dillyn Leyds

OK Tvl, jammer dat party van ons upset raak as van ons beste en favourite spelers waai. As dit onvanpas is om dan daarop te comment dan sal ons maar in die toekoms nie 


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 3:12pm
bly Neil is gone.

Baie sad Om Marx en green tea verloor. Altwee nog jonk en altwee kon leeus greats gewees het.

Ek dink spelers waai , dit is wat dit is. If you want loyalty buy a dog (more prevalent today than ever , millennials are notorious job hoppers)

Having said all that , we have lost a massive amount of players in a very short space of time. We will need a massive effort to get back to the 2017 “glory days”


Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 4:29pm
We have the list of players deserting the seemingly sinking ship, any news of player recruitment? The other unions have announced signings already. 


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 15-May-2020 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

We have the list of players deserting the seemingly sinking ship, any news of player recruitment? The other unions have announced signings already. 
I'm not too sure we have the money to recruit more players.


Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 16-May-2020 at 11:24am
Losing players is part & parcel of team sports, but losing your best as well as the next generation of up and coming talent (as we have for the past few seasons) , does not inspire confidence. 


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 16-May-2020 at 2:03pm
agreed , it does however sound like it was as a result of the pay cuts introduced after the covid19 effect


Posted By: L13
Date Posted: 16-May-2020 at 2:30pm
Losing Vermaak and especially Green really hurts. Marx, sad as it is - is no surprise. Once players reach global star level they are bound to leave sooner rather than later.

What is interesting (or frightening) is that the Sharks, Stormers and Bulls were able to keep players by talking to them and the players buying into the union's project. Sharks players turned down silly money and Stormers players, despite the financial mess WP is in, backed the coach. Bulls have star pull with JW at the helm (love him or hate him, he has gravitas as a man that brings success).

What that says about the current state the Lions find themselves in is...worrying.


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 16-May-2020 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by L13 L13 wrote:

Losing Vermaak and especially Green really hurts. Marx, sad as it is - is no surprise. Once players reach global star level they are bound to leave sooner rather than later.

What is interesting (or frightening) is that the Sharks, Stormers and Bulls were able to keep players by talking to them and the players buying into the union's project. Sharks players turned down silly money and Stormers players, despite the financial mess WP is in, backed the coach. Bulls have star pull with JW at the helm (love him or hate him, he has gravitas as a man that brings success).

What that says about the current state the Lions find themselves in is...worrying.

PSDT cancelled his WP contract , will probably leave.

And can I also just give a huge shout out to Elton Jantjies , probably the most loyal player in lions history (close call with baywatch and doppies)


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 8:00am
Ja manne ek dink gister so ja ons is nie waar ons in 2017 was nie maar ek sal altyd n groot Leeus ondersteuner bly Rudolph en Allers en die res ek glo in hulle mens gaan nie altyd raak vat met afrigters en spelers nie maar my hart sal altyd rooi bly


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 8:30am
Ek sien Ackerman het eers vir swys gevra om hom te hlp by Japanese span maar hy het dit van die hand gewys en gese hy is nie nou reg daarvoor nie


Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 8:41am
Gertjie, ek sien Neil de Bryun gaan vir Acketmann join in Japan.


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 8:54am
Ja nadat swys vir hom nee gese het, ek sien die leeus onderhandel met Warrick Galant hulle en wp onderhandel met hom en dan is die sharks en wp agter Simelane aan en soos ek die sharks ken sal hy sekerlik soontoe skuif 


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 9:29am
Originally posted by gertjie0000 gertjie0000 wrote:

Ja nadat swys vir hom nee gese het, ek sien die leeus onderhandel met Warrick Galant hulle en wp onderhandel met hom en dan is die sharks en wp agter Simelane aan en soos ek die sharks ken sal hy sekerlik soontoe skuif 

Am is their captain , will be a bad move for Simelane. He must get regular starts at 13 if he wants to reach his potential 


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 17-May-2020 at 10:50am
Ek stem Niela ek hoopmaar ons kanhom hou ek dink nie galant sal seker n bad koop wees nie coetseehet nie juis baie goed gespeel die laaste tyd nie en galant het x faktor en as die regte coach met hom werk kan hy baie goed raak wat dink julle manne?


Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 18-May-2020 at 8:28am
Originally posted by gertjie0000 gertjie0000 wrote:

Ek stem Niela ek hoopmaar ons kanhom hou ek dink nie galant sal seker n bad koop wees nie coetseehet nie juis baie goed gespeel die laaste tyd nie en galant het x faktor en as die regte coach met hom werk kan hy baie goed raak wat dink julle manne?

Galant is nie bad nie , maar vir my is Coetzee net so goed. Ons kort slotte en met Marx wat waai kort ons n hakker. 

Ons twee hakkers is baie average en dan is PJ Botha ons 3de hakker , hy is jonk , maar hy lyk vir my te klein om werklik n great hakker te wees 


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 18-May-2020 at 8:30am
Ja jammer daai Dweba het oorsee geteken hy kom 'n goeie aanwins gewees het moet ons nie maar gaan kyk na daai ek dink dit was Samuels wat wp toe is ook mos 'n hakker hy was self nie te bad gewees nie


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 18-May-2020 at 8:32am
Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Ouens, waarom is ons die enigste SA span wat spelers lek? Sharks het aangekondig hul verloor 1 speler. Al hul ander bokke bly. Ek is nie bewus van enige WP bokke/spelers wat waai nie. Bulls koop links en reg nuwe spelers, nevermind die WC winning coach wat hul ook gekoop het. 

So wat de F0K gaan by die leeus aan???

kalmeer ou, al die franchises verloor spelers, hier is die name wat ons sover het:

Bulls: Johnny Kotze, Manie Libbok
Lions: Malcolm Marx, Tyrone Green, Ruan Vermaak, Shaun Reynolds
Sharks: Andre Esterhuizen, Tyler Paul, Andisa Ntsila, Mapimpi
Stormers: Wilco Louw, Dillyn Leyds, Pieter-Steph Du Toit, Jean Luc du Plessis, Cobus Wiese
Ek lees op Facebook die ouens hierbo in bold gaan ook oorsee, dan moet ons onthou dat die Stormers moontlik nog vir Damian Willemse ook gaan verloor. So dit lyk darem nie of ons die heel slegste af is met spelers wat waai nie, hoewel ons in die laaste 2 jaar heelwat meer spelers verloor het as die ander franchises.


Posted By: Leeu1975
Date Posted: 18-May-2020 at 9:44am
Blykbaar gaan Pieter-Stef nie oorsee nie maar soek 'n beter kontrak met WP

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Gebore Leeu-ondersteuner


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 31-May-2020 at 3:18pm
https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 31-May-2020 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
Hierdie berug is maar net weer n bewys dat geld nie noodwendig die grootste rol speel wanneer n speler n besluit oor sy loopbaan maak nie.


Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 31-May-2020 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 8:18am
Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 
This has nothing to do with the state of our union. This is not a new thing, and as I have explained to Leeubok, Players tend to go where their support structure is. Gelant is a wp boy. His whole family and most of his friends are from there. He probably wanted to go back, come hell or high water.
Before Akker van der Merwe left for the Sharks, he had an interview with a newspaper, where he told the journalist that he grew up in the Southern Cape, and would love to live close to the sea. I then knew that we were going to lose him. The Sharks offered him a starting spot, and the coastal lifestyle that he desired. I don't think that they offered him more money. This is a thing that has been going on for decades. Way back in the 90's AJ Venter went to the Sharks for the same reason (to live by the sea), and there are loads of players that has done the same. Schalk Brits is another example, so too Joe van Niekerk. 
A former CEO of the Lions used to be a frequent visitor on this site about a decade ago, and he cornfirmed just that: The Lions and the Bulls needed to cough up a lot more money to attract and retain players.



Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 8:27am
https://www.son.co.za/Sport/geboelie-om-te-bly-20200529" rel="nofollow - https://www.son.co.za/Sport/geboelie-om-te-bly-20200529

We have problems..


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 8:59am
Ek stem Valie dis die probleem vir die leeus en die bulle om by die see te bly is 'n groot aantrekking hoor maar hoe baie mense as jy hulle vra as hulle enige plek in sa kon bly waar dit sal wees en meeste gaan se die Kaap.

En oor die Simelane debakel ek dink die leeus het baie in hom bele en hy het nog nie deliver nie ja hulle het hom nie baie kanse gegee nie maar dan ook die kanse wat hy gekry het het hy nie baie goed benut nie, en dis sleg dat mens so houding het ek glo as jy soos in sy geval min kanse kry kan jy baie hard werk en vir die coach wys hy moet jou speel kyk maar vir Skosan 'n baie goeie voorbeeld ek dink hy was baie avarage toe hy begin het maar kyk waar is hy nou deur harde werk ek haat dit as mense net voel als moet in hulle skote val so nee Simelane sit bietjie als in en ek waarborg jou jy sal elke week begin weet nie wat julle manne dink nie maar dis wat ek dink?


Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 9:01am
Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 
This has nothing to do with the state of our union. This is not a new thing, and as I have explained to Leeubok, Players tend to go where their support structure is. Gelant is a wp boy. His whole family and most of his friends are from there. He probably wanted to go back, come hell or high water.
Before Akker van der Merwe left for the Sharks, he had an interview with a newspaper, where he told the journalist that he grew up in the Southern Cape, and would love to live close to the sea. I then knew that we were going to lose him. The Sharks offered him a starting spot, and the coastal lifestyle that he desired. I don't think that they offered him more money. This is a thing that has been going on for decades. Way back in the 90's AJ Venter went to the Sharks for the same reason (to live by the sea), and there are loads of players that has done the same. Schalk Brits is another example, so too Joe van Niekerk. 
A former CEO of the Lions used to be a frequent visitor on this site about a decade ago, and he cornfirmed just that: The Lions and the Bulls needed to cough up a lot more money to attract and retain players.


I agree with you,sodra spelers soos Manni Rass en Gianni Lombard begin sterre word sal hulle ook terug na hul geboorte plek en support gaan....WP!


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Once a Lion always a lion


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 9:03am
En Divan Rossouw is 'n baie beter koop as Galant hy het my nog glad nie oortuig nie hy is darem 'n snaakse ou op die veld hy entertain darem die mense elke keer as hy een van sy spelers raak skop sal nooit die ene op Serfontein vergeet nie LOLLOLLOL 


Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 9:05am
Ek moet ook se Manni Rass het my baie meer die jaar oortuig as Simelane en hy was ook die heletyd uitgelaat maar mens kan sien hy het hard gaan werk ek dink hy kan ook 'n baie goeie senter word so ook Simelane as hy begin om die praat werk op die veld te doen


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 9:19am
Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 
This has nothing to do with the state of our union. This is not a new thing, and as I have explained to Leeubok, Players tend to go where their support structure is. Gelant is a wp boy. His whole family and most of his friends are from there. He probably wanted to go back, come hell or high water.
Before Akker van der Merwe left for the Sharks, he had an interview with a newspaper, where he told the journalist that he grew up in the Southern Cape, and would love to live close to the sea. I then knew that we were going to lose him. The Sharks offered him a starting spot, and the coastal lifestyle that he desired. I don't think that they offered him more money. This is a thing that has been going on for decades. Way back in the 90's AJ Venter went to the Sharks for the same reason (to live by the sea), and there are loads of players that has done the same. Schalk Brits is another example, so too Joe van Niekerk. 
A former CEO of the Lions used to be a frequent visitor on this site about a decade ago, and he cornfirmed just that: The Lions and the Bulls needed to cough up a lot more money to attract and retain players.


Valie, wat jy se is gladnie verkeerd nie. Natuurlik is dit lekkerder om langs die see te bly. Maar dit is nie die enigste rede waarom spelers nie by die leeus wil teken of bly nie. Ons word netnie gesien as 'n rugby "powerhouse" nie. Waarom kan die Bulls dan ster spelers en coaches teken, en ons nie? Spelers wil deel van 'n wenspan wees, wat hul kanse om 'n bok te word gaan verbeter.
 




Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 9:30am
Ek stem saam met Valie weer koerant joernaliste wat Lions probeer sleg se. Gelant se hoof rede was dalk nog dat sy familie ook in die Kaap is. Moeg vir joernaliste wat sulke goed skryf al het hulle nie die ware inligting nie. So iets sal nooit van die Bulle, WP of Sharks geskryf word nie! Ek het nog volle vertroue in Straeuli en Allers. Straeuli is die beste CEO in die land met sy regs agtergrond.

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Lions4life


Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 
This has nothing to do with the state of our union. This is not a new thing, and as I have explained to Leeubok, Players tend to go where their support structure is. Gelant is a wp boy. His whole family and most of his friends are from there. He probably wanted to go back, come hell or high water.
Before Akker van der Merwe left for the Sharks, he had an interview with a newspaper, where he told the journalist that he grew up in the Southern Cape, and would love to live close to the sea. I then knew that we were going to lose him. The Sharks offered him a starting spot, and the coastal lifestyle that he desired. I don't think that they offered him more money. This is a thing that has been going on for decades. Way back in the 90's AJ Venter went to the Sharks for the same reason (to live by the sea), and there are loads of players that has done the same. Schalk Brits is another example, so too Joe van Niekerk. 
A former CEO of the Lions used to be a frequent visitor on this site about a decade ago, and he cornfirmed just that: The Lions and the Bulls needed to cough up a lot more money to attract and retain players.


Valie, wat jy se is gladnie verkeerd nie. Natuurlik is dit lekkerder om langs die see te bly. Maar dit is nie die enigste rede waarom spelers nie by die leeus wil teken of bly nie. Ons word netnie gesien as 'n rugby "powerhouse" nie. Waarom kan die Bulls dan ster spelers en coaches teken, en ons nie? Spelers wil deel van 'n wenspan wees, wat hul kanse om 'n bok te word gaan verbeter.
 


Dis defnitief makliker om ster spelers te trek en te hou as die span wen momentum het. Almal wil deel wees van n wenkultuur. Wat n groot deel van ons sukses was, is die feit dat ons vanaf 2014 tot 2018 met dieselfde kern groep spelers gespeel het. Ons het spelers, wat meestal nie by ander unies geleenthede gekry het nie, gevat en hulle in n span omskep. Dit se vir my dat om ster spelers te lok, nie noodwendig die enigste roete na sukses is nie. Die trick is om spelers te identifiseer wat goed genoeg is, met die regte temperament, om dit te maak, wat nie geleenthede kry by ander unies nie, en 3 of 4 van hulle te kry, vir dieselfde geld wat 1 ster speler kos, en hulle te ontwikkel in ster spelers.
Ons kry meer as genoeg kwaliteit spelers deur ons junior strukture, die challenge is om hulle genoeg blootstelling te kan gee, (en daarvoor moet jou senior span goed genoeg perform sodat jy rookies kanse kan gee), hulle te behou, en om hulle fiks (beseringsvry) te hou.


Posted By: ROOIHART
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by valie valie wrote:

https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/gelant-turned-down-lucrative-lions-offer-before-joining-stormers-report-20200530
this says tons about the state of our union, when players won't come to us for more money there is something rotten 
This has nothing to do with the state of our union. This is not a new thing, and as I have explained to Leeubok, Players tend to go where their support structure is. Gelant is a wp boy. His whole family and most of his friends are from there. He probably wanted to go back, come hell or high water.
Before Akker van der Merwe left for the Sharks, he had an interview with a newspaper, where he told the journalist that he grew up in the Southern Cape, and would love to live close to the sea. I then knew that we were going to lose him. The Sharks offered him a starting spot, and the coastal lifestyle that he desired. I don't think that they offered him more money. This is a thing that has been going on for decades. Way back in the 90's AJ Venter went to the Sharks for the same reason (to live by the sea), and there are loads of players that has done the same. Schalk Brits is another example, so too Joe van Niekerk. 
A former CEO of the Lions used to be a frequent visitor on this site about a decade ago, and he cornfirmed just that: The Lions and the Bulls needed to cough up a lot more money to attract and retain players.


Valie, wat jy se is gladnie verkeerd nie. Natuurlik is dit lekkerder om langs die see te bly. Maar dit is nie die enigste rede waarom spelers nie by die leeus wil teken of bly nie. Ons word netnie gesien as 'n rugby "powerhouse" nie. Waarom kan die Bulls dan ster spelers en coaches teken, en ons nie? Spelers wil deel van 'n wenspan wees, wat hul kanse om 'n bok te word gaan verbeter.
 



Die Bulle het dan net onlangs Visagie/Gelant/Lood/Divan/Pollard/RG/Jesse/Conraad/Libbok etc verloor. Intussen het Bulle nou die 2de EN 4de rykste SA’ners as aandeelhouers en hulle finansiële backers so ek is nie seker wat daar verwag is gaan gebeur.


Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2020 at 1:11pm
Ek verstaan nie wat jy probeer se nie Rooihart. Ja die Bulls het 'n klomp ster spelers verloor, maar is hard aan die werk om daarvoor te kompenseer met 'n world cup winning coach en 'n klomp signings. Elkeen van daai spelers wat weg is maak klomp geld vir nuwe speler salarisse vry, so dieselfde geld seker vir die spelers wat ons verloor het. 

Either way. Al wat ek probeer se (of eerder moan) is ek kry net die gevoel die ander 3 unies beweeg vinniger vooruit as ons. Voel eintlik of ons agteruit boer



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