Cash se wen rekord
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Topic: Cash se wen rekord
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Cash se wen rekord
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2019 at 2:57pm
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 8 | 5 | 62.5% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-Jul-2019 at 2:57pm
Net 1.1% swakker as Ackers op die oomblik!
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2019 at 3:01pm
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 9 | 6 | 66.7% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2019 at 3:02pm
So die laaste afrigter met 'n beter rekord as Cash in Curriebeker was Laurie Mains in 1999-2000...
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2019 at 3:24pm
Lyk goed sover! Maar ek wonder, met die praat van Sean Erasmus wat Swys se opvolger gaan word.. Wat dan van Cash? Hoe kan Sean nou voor hom in die ry staan?
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 7:56am
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 10 | 7 | 70.0% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 7:57am
Cash se rekord lyk al hoe beter. Steeds net Laurie Mains met 'n beter rekord van enige afrigter sedert 1999. As hy die volgende 2 wen sal sy rekord ook beter as die van Mains wees
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 7:58am
Lyk of die jeugstrukture nou begin vrugte afwerp.
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 8:13am
Weet nie wat doen Cash reg nie, maar daar is 'n spangees en veggees soos min in hierdie groep!
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 8:14am
En ek dink hoe meer dit gebeur hoe meer begin die spelers in hulle self glo, wat natuurlik 'n goeie ding is.
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Posted By: Billy3
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 8:20am
Moet nie n Erasmus se naam Weg gooi nie!
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 8:54am
Confidence is aansteeklik. Alles het begin met die jong outjies vir wie Swys in SR kans gegee het. Dis meestal hulle wat die vuur aansteek, met die ander wat volg. Die CC is die ideale platform vir die jong spelers om hulle confidence te bou.
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 9:01am
Ek wonder die dat Warren saam gegaan het, of hy nie ook n paar woorde halftyd gesê het nie
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 9:15am
PaBz0r wrote:
Ek wonder die dat Warren saam gegaan het, of hy nie ook n paar woorde halftyd gesê het nie |
Heel waarskynlik, en ek dink hy is veronderstel om hierdie naweek te speel teen die Bulle
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 10:02am
Ek dink dit help ook baie dat Joey nie in beheer is van ons verdediging nie...
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2019 at 11:17am
[QUOTE=TunaLion]Ek dink dit help ook baie dat Joey nie in beheer is van ons verdediging nie... [/QUOT
Ons verdediging lyk vir my alreeds baie beter - Dink Erasmus doen goeie werk daar sover....
------------- Once a Lion always a lion
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2019 at 8:33am
Ongelukkig kos die verloor teen die Bulle hom amper 7%
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 11 | 7 | 63.6% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2019 at 10:05am
Our coaches need a 70%+ win record, even at this level
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Posted By: GoLions
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2019 at 9:42am
Lion4ever wrote:
Our coaches need a 70%+ win record, even at this level |
Die laaste paar jaar gebruik die Leeus die CB om te eksperimenteer met jong spelers
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2019 at 10:27am
GoLions wrote:
Lion4ever wrote:
Our coaches need a 70%+ win record, even at this level |
Die laaste paar jaar gebruik die Leeus die CB om te eksperimenteer met jong spelers | Very true. However, the CC needs to be more than just experimentation. These youngsters will have to play SR, and need to be able to handle the pressure of that comp. So a winning culture needs to nurtured.
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2019 at 11:04am
All the teams (except maybe for pumas and griquas) lose players and experiment during the CC. So we can't use that as an excuse
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2019 at 11:14am
Last year we had a few of the Japan guys staying and playing in the CC in the latter stages, that didn't help us secure a trophy..
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2019 at 11:59am
PaBz0r wrote:
Last year we had a few of the Japan guys staying and playing in the CC in the latter stages, that didn't help us secure a trophy.. | "New" and inexperienced coach. Things seem to be going better this season.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2019 at 12:50pm
Die twee verlore tuis en in 'n ry het sy stats seergemaak
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 12 | 7 | 58.3% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2019 at 8:51am
Nou weer bo 60%
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 13 | 8 | 61.5% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 02-Sep-2019 at 8:17am
Cash is nou weer 2de van alle afrigters by die Leeus in Curriebeker rugby sedert 1999
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 14 | 9 | 64.3% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2019 at 9:24am
Cash eindig op 60%
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2019 | 15 | 9 | 60.0% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2019 at 9:25am
Mens weet ook nooit of hy weer 'n kans gaan kry in 2020 nie
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2019 at 10:39am
It would be good if he can be given a chance again. Reaching the finals in only the 2nd year of his Currie Cup career. Not too shabby.
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2019 at 1:50pm
He has worked under John Mitchell and Johan Ackerman, so he is one of the few who have seen what has gone right and wrong under previous coaches. However there is a urgent need of beefing up our assistent coaching setup. Our forwards coaches have no clue how to counter driving mauls without Malcolm Marx, we dont have an attack coach who can instill attacking moves from set play (we rely mostly on counter attacks from broken play), and we don't have a defensive coach for the pasttwo years.
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2019 at 4:35pm
emiel1 wrote:
He has worked under John Mitchell and Johan Ackerman, so he is one of the few who have seen what has gone right and wrong under previous coaches. However there is a urgent need of beefing up our assistent coaching setup. Our forwards coaches have no clue how to counter driving mauls without Malcolm Marx, we dont have an attack coach who can instill attacking moves from set play (we rely mostly on counter attacks from broken play), and we don't have a defensive coach for the pasttwo years.
| wasn't Sean Erasmus supposed to be the defence coach for the Currie Cup? I agree that our forwards coaches need to work on the rolling maul, both on defence and attack. In the past that was one of our best attacking weapons. If we did not score directly from the maul, our backs would score more often than not, because the way we went forward meant that the opposition defensive lines were fractured. I think Cash has a great future ahead of him as a coach.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2020 at 7:51am
Cash begin toe met 'n verloor in Super Rugby
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 1 | 0 | 0% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Alex "Grizz" Wylie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2020 at 10:23am
Glo sy rekord sal verseker beter as ou Dick sin wees
------------- Once a Lion always a lion
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2020 at 11:22am
Hopelik 50% na die naweek
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2020 at 12:19pm
LeeuBrul wrote:
Glo sy rekord sal verseker beter as ou Dick sin wees
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"Rekord" jis.. meer soos n helse skande!
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2020 at 9:57am
Transvaal wrote:
Hopelik 50% na die naweek |
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 2 | 1 | 50% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Alex "Grizz" Wylie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2020 at 10:46am
Everyone was moaning how bad Swys is, but if you see it in context, he was the 2nd best we've ever had.
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Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2020 at 10:53am
I still believe Swys is one of the best coaches in the world currently. Such a pity about his mental health. He could have made such a big impact on National Level as well! It was evident already what a big impact he made on players such Damion de Allende during his short stay at the Springboks
------------- Lions4life
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2020 at 1:03pm
That just shows how poor the others were... Swys was brilliant as an attacking coach, but he is not Head coach material. I believe a head coach should have outstanding "man management" skills. He should be able to convince the players to be willing to die for him. That is something Swys lacked and what made Ackermann such a huge success.
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2020 at 1:28pm
So already Cash cannot be the worst we have ever had, thx to old Dick
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Feb-2020 at 8:15am
Ongelukkig nou op 33% na 3 wedstryde
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Kitch Christie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 28-Feb-2020 at 12:19pm
Cash se wen rekord vat houe
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 4 | 1 | 25.0% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Kitch Christie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 09-Mar-2020 at 9:35am
eina eina pyn!
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 5 | 1 | 20.0% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Kitch Christie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 09-Mar-2020 at 9:35am
Nog steed 2.8% beter as John Mitchell se rekord
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 16-Mar-2020 at 8:25am
Super Rugby coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2020 | 6 | 1 | 16.7% | Swys de Bruin | 2018-2019 | 35 | 19 | 54.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2017 | 71 | 46 | 64.8% | John Mitchell | 2011-2012 | 29 | 5 | 17.2% | Dick Muir | 2010 | 13 | 0 | 0.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2007-2009 | 39 | 11 | 28.2% | Frans Ludeke | 2006 | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | Ray Mordt | 1997 | 11 | 5 | 45.4% | Kitch Christie | 1996 | 11 | 3 | 27.3% |
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 28-Apr-2020 at 10:43am
Interesting read from the bok coaching staff
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/nienaber-how-a-simple-change-turned-springboks-into-world-champions-20200428" rel="nofollow - https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/nienaber-how-a-simple-change-turned-springboks-into-world-champions-20200428
I think this is probably our single biggest issue, except ours is by organisational design. We have to many chefs in the kitchen.
If we have 8 coaches do each of them get 12.5% of player time ? I don't know how our setup works, but if defense is 50% of our game and we have all these coaches, I can guarantee you that we are not spending 50% of our time on defense...
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2020 at 8:44am
Niela wrote:
Interesting read from the bok coaching staff
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/nienaber-how-a-simple-change-turned-springboks-into-world-champions-20200428" rel="nofollow - https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/nienaber-how-a-simple-change-turned-springboks-into-world-champions-20200428
I think this is probably our single biggest issue, except ours is by organisational design. We have to many chefs in the kitchen.
If we have 8 coaches do each of them get 12.5% of player time ? I don't know how our setup works, but if defense is 50% of our game and we have all these coaches, I can guarantee you that we are not spending 50% of our time on defense...
| Interesting point. This is where the defence coach must really stamp his authority. He should have input in all areas of the game. All the coaches need to buy into the defensive pattern, and incorporate that. Attack can quickly turn into defence if we lose possession. Defence can turn into attack if we regain possession. Defensive scrums and lineouts are key. Our team loves scoring tries, but they need to be absolutely ruthless in defending the tryline, which must happen irrespective of where the opposition has possession. As elated as the team feels when scoring a try, they must feel the corresponding anger when they concede a try. Not with each other, but as a collective, and direct that that anger in either scoring again or ensuring that the defence holds better.
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2020 at 1:31pm
Hierdie deel is eintlik nie net van toepassing op Rugby nie. Ek is in baie meetings die laaste jaar, waar die meeting uitmekaar rafel en dit sidetracked word of dit begin omloop in 'n tegniese debat of tegnies stappe van hoe die projek gaan verloop. Mense verstaan nie wat 'n meeting se doel is en wat die punt van dit is nie. Om slides en videos in meetings te sit is ook nie hoe dit moet wees nie (veral nie as dit baie lang videos is nie) en 'n meeting is suppose om kort en kragtig te wees en moet gewoonlik net fokus op 'n paar konsepte.
Ek het onlangs training gegaan waar hierdie inligting oorgedra was aan my, en dit is pretty much presies wat Nienaber hier ook sê.
Dit is ook nie verkeerd om die tegniese debat/tegniese stappe voorleg sessie te hê nie as dit regtig nodig is, maar reel dit dan vir 'n ander tyd met net daardie mense wat betrokke moet wees daar.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2020 at 9:02pm
meetings , my biggest frustration in a corporate environment.
Then there are little sub meetings that develop from those meetings.
My rule is , send an email (yes it has its pros and cons) , but let people read it in their time.
People that host meetings all the time don’t have enough work so they just want to look busy. In the process they waste everyone’s time.
My P.A declines most of the meetings I get invited too
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 30-Apr-2020 at 1:53pm
I have had my one PM book 4/5 hours per week on meetings last year. That was only for my one project and that already amounts to 10% of the working week spent just on meetings for one project. Above that I still had the regular company meetings, departmental meetings & other project meetings. This along with the other menial tasks of checking mails, weekly admin work etc. a quarter to a half of the work week is gone.
Then at the end of the week they ask and want to know why progress is so slow, that after I have been complaining about all the meetings.
Then they want to have meetings to discuss all the meetings :P (Lol, I am just joking about this last bit).
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 07-Dec-2020 at 9:35am
Julle gaan dit seker nie glo nie, maar met hierdie wen is Cash se wen rekord nou beter as Johan Ackermann in Curriebeker:
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2020 | 17 | 11 | 64.7% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 07-Dec-2020 at 9:38am
Jis dit voel net nie waar nie? Ons het n paar goeie seisoene gehad onder Ackers en kie, miskien Cash ons die jaar in..
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 07-Dec-2020 at 9:46am
Cash van Rooyen se wenrekord in Curriebeker na Saterdag se oorwinning oor WP is 11 van 17 vir 64.7%, dis beter as al die Leeus afrigters die afgelope 20 jaar en net Laurie Mains van 1999-2000 seisoen met 19 wenne van 26 vir 73.1% is beter.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 9:12am
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2020 | 19 | 13 | 68.4% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 9:13am
Hy is nou op 13 van 19 vir 68.4%. Gelykop teen die bulle sal nie gunstig vir sy rekord wees nie
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 9:56am
Ek is nogals beindruk met Cash. Dit was n massiewe risiko om hom aan te stel met basies geen ervaring nie en net tyd sal kan sê of dit die regte besluit was of nie. En terwyl die span uiters swak was in SR vanjaar, lyk dit of hulle tydens die lockdown as afrigting groep bymekaar gekom het en regtig gewerk het aan hul swakpunte.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 10:05am
TunaLion wrote:
Ek is nogals beindruk met Cash. Dit was n massiewe risiko om hom aan te stel met basies geen ervaring nie en net tyd sal kan sê of dit die regte besluit was of nie. En terwyl die span uiters swak was in SR vanjaar, lyk dit of hulle tydens die lockdown as afrigting groep bymekaar gekom het en regtig gewerk het aan hul swakpunte.
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Die groot issue was die verdediging, nou dat dit drasties verbeter het, vertoon ons baie beter.
------------- Up the Vaal!
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 10:50am
Attie Karate wrote:
TunaLion wrote:
Ek is nogals beindruk met Cash. Dit was n massiewe risiko om hom aan te stel met basies geen ervaring nie en net tyd sal kan sê of dit die regte besluit was of nie. En terwyl die span uiters swak was in SR vanjaar, lyk dit of hulle tydens die lockdown as afrigting groep bymekaar gekom het en regtig gewerk het aan hul swakpunte.
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Die groot issue was die verdediging, nou dat dit drasties verbeter het, vertoon ons baie beter. |
During Super rugby , we had moments that looked like the "old lions" ,but we had absolutely shocking defense and our scrums were really poor.
Fast forward a couple of months and we are looking like our defense is impenetrable and we are scrumming like in 2017.
Our line out is also looking great and we are mauling like in 2018 (When we scored almost half our tries from the driving line out).
So overall, very very positive.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 11:34am
Ons het net teen die Sharks 2 of 3 keer skeef ingegooi wat nie so vars was nie
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2020 at 3:11pm
Besides the defence that improved,it also helps that Alberts and Jaco Kriel is fit again after they were injured at the start of the year. Then our contracting was also very good since the start of the year, even though I was a bit surprised by some of the signings. The players we signed are almost all fitting in very well at the team.
Here I think of players like Jaco Visagie and Burger Odendaal, who are especially making a massive positive impact on the team. Especially Jaco Visagie was someone I used to see in a negative light at the Bulls, however he is kind off punching well above his weight by us.
Warner is another who is quietly going along well and showing some form that he hasnt really shown previously in his career.
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2020 at 5:10pm
Ek is baie bly die unie het vir Cash geback as afrigter. Baie mense dink hy is onervare, maar ons vergeet soms dat hy al iets soos 9 jaar met die span saamkom. Ek dink die rede dat ons in SR gesukkel het, is agv klomp spelers wat weg is, en nuwes wat ingekom het. Dis nie so maklik om met n klomp nuwe ouens dadelik by n gameplan of brand te laat inkoop, en aan dit te skaaf sodat dit almal se sterkpunte pas nie. Ek dink die span het in die lockdown baie hard gewerk om hul "identiteit" met hom as afriger te vind. In SR unlocked was ons glad nie sleg nie, en n paar keer ongelukkig om te verloor. Mens kon weekliks sien hoe die manne in confidence groei en ek het heeltyd die gevoel gehad dat ons net een groot wen kort, om ons weer op dreef te bring. Ons het natuurlik ook baie bad luck gehad met die wedstryde wat afgestel was. Dit het ons kontinuiteit totaal gebreek.
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2020 at 9:18am
Transvaal wrote:
Ons het net teen die Sharks 2 of 3 keer skeef ingegooi wat nie so vars was nie |
Daai was almal marginal gewees.
Maar ja , dis n easy fix
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2020 at 4:30pm
Niela wrote:
Transvaal wrote:
Ons het net teen die Sharks 2 of 3 keer skeef ingegooi wat nie so vars was nie |
Daai was almal marginal gewees.
Maar ja , dis n easy fix |
Veral die eerste ene, die slot het dit nogsteeds op sy binneskouer gevang en dit was definitief contestable. Jaco Visagie se skok was duidelik toe die call gemaak was dat dit skeef was.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2020 at 12:46am
TunaLion wrote:
Niela wrote:
Transvaal wrote:
Ons het net teen die Sharks 2 of 3 keer skeef ingegooi wat nie so vars was nie |
Daai was almal marginal gewees.
Maar ja , dis n easy fix |
Veral die eerste ene, die slot het dit nogsteeds op sy binneskouer gevang en dit was definitief contestable. Jaco Visagie se skok was duidelik toe die call gemaak was dat dit skeef was.
| Ja, daai een was nie vir my skeef nie.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2021 at 5:33am
Hy staan nou op 70% in die Curriebeker wat indrukwekkend is.
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2020 | 20 | 14 | 70.0% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2021 at 9:15am
Die verloor het hom amper 3% gekos, maar hy is steeds 2de beste na Mains
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2020 | 21 | 14 | 66.7% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Jan-2021 at 9:22am
Hy is nou weer gelyk met Ackers:
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2020 | 22 | 14 | 63.6% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2021 at 2:30pm
Tvl, gaan jy dalk hierdie thread update met die ander toernooie wat die Leeus onder Cash speel?
Ek het so vinnig gekyk, ons het 6 uit 12 wedstryde gewen in die laaste CC (wat die super rugby conference insluit dink ek?). En tans stans ons op 1 uit 5 in die Rainbow cup.
So die laaste 17 wedstryde teen SA opposisie het ons 7 gewen.. Waarvan 'n paar teen FS, Griquas en Pumas was. Dit maak nie vir goeie leesstof nie
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2021 at 2:51pm
Dit is opgedateer op die webwerf, sy rekord is maar swak
http://www.lionsworld.co.za/coachrecords.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lionsworld.co.za/coachrecords.html
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2021 at 3:30pm
Dankie. Ek was so vinnig op die unie se WWW en dit was maar swak. Wys nog ons moet nog teen Sharks speel, en speler profile vir Wandisile het Dan Kriel se info..
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2021 at 3:32pm
Hulle het my so week terug gevra of ek vir hulle kan se hoeveel caps die spelers het....
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2021 at 3:37pm
Transvaal wrote:
Hulle het my so week terug gevra of ek vir hulle kan se hoeveel caps die spelers het.... |
Hel, dis darem maar swak!!!!
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2021 at 1:30pm
Iemand het nou onlangs op sosiale media 'n foto geplaas van die span wat in 2009 teen die britse leeus gespeel het. Cash was toe al deel van die setup. Die persoon wat dit geplaas het noem dit toe en basies se hy dis onvangpas van mense om te se dat Cash onervare is.
Wel, in my opinie is dit dan nog slegter dat hy so slegte wen persentasie het! As hy so ervare is, hoekom sukkel ons span so??
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2021 at 2:03pm
Leeubok wrote:
Iemand het nou onlangs op sosiale media 'n foto geplaas van die span wat in 2009 teen die britse leeus gespeel het. Cash was toe al deel van die setup. Die persoon wat dit geplaas het noem dit toe en basies se hy dis onvangpas van mense om te se dat Cash onervare is.
Wel, in my opinie is dit dan nog slegter dat hy so slegte wen persentasie het! As hy so ervare is, hoekom sukkel ons span so?? |
Wat ñ sinnelose redenasie. Ervaring in kondisionering en ervaring as afrigter is onvergelykbaar.
"Ek pak al 10 jaar sakke by Spar so maak my sommer nou die winkelbestuurder."
------------- Up the Vaal!
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Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2021 at 2:37pm
Goed gese manne ek dink ons het presies dit gesien met Swys goeie hulp afrigter maar nie 'n goeie hoof afrigter nie hy kon nie die druk hanteer het van hoof afrigter nie ek sou nogal daai Wessels gelaaik het wat op 'n stadium by die Rebels was David Wessels ek dink hy is 'n baie goeie coach weet net nie of hy sal terug kom SA toe nie
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2021 at 7:03pm
Attie Karate wrote:
Leeubok wrote:
Iemand het nou onlangs op sosiale media 'n foto geplaas van die span wat in 2009 teen die britse leeus gespeel het. Cash was toe al deel van die setup. Die persoon wat dit geplaas het noem dit toe en basies se hy dis onvangpas van mense om te se dat Cash onervare is.
Wel, in my opinie is dit dan nog slegter dat hy so slegte wen persentasie het! As hy so ervare is, hoekom sukkel ons span so?? |
Wat ñ sinnelose redenasie. Ervaring in kondisionering en ervaring as afrigter is onvergelykbaar.
"Ek pak al 10 jaar sakke by Spar so maak my sommer nou die winkelbestuurder." |
Ek verstaan nou nie lekker of jy bedoel my redenasie of die ou op twitter nie? Die ou op Twitter het gese cash is ervare omdat hy sedert 2009 al deel van die setup was. Ek se dat as dit die geval is het hy minder verskoning vir die span se slegte vertonings
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2021 at 3:57pm
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2021 | 24 | 15 | 62.5% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2021 at 3:59pm
Dis Cash se 4rde jaar as Curriebeker afrigter, Loffie was byvoorbeeld net 3 jaar Curriebeker afrigter
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 9:03am
Die 2021 seisoen is nie goed vir Cash se rekord nie:
Currie Cup coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2018-2021 | 30 | 16 | 53.3% | Swys de Bruin | 2017 | 10 | 5 | 50.0% | Herkie Kruger | 2017 | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | Johan Ackermann | 2012-2016 | 55 | 35 | 63.6% | John Mitchell | 2010-2011 | 30 | 19 | 63.3% | Hans Coetzee | 2009 | 14 | 7 | 50.0% | Eugene Eloff | 2006-2008 | 45 | 27 | 60.0% | Frans Ludeke | 2001-2005 | 61 | 39 | 63.9% | Laurie Mains | 1999-2000 | 26 | 19 | 73.1% |
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2021 at 12:45pm
Hel self Loffie het beter gebou as Cash....
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2021 at 7:32pm
WitBoer wrote:
Hel self Loffie het beter gebou as Cash.... |
We also had a lot more cash in loffies day
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2021 at 6:49am
Niela wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Hel self Loffie het beter gebou as Cash.... |
We also had a lot more cash in loffies day |
We also had Earl Rose...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2021 at 8:20am
WitBoer wrote:
Niela wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Hel self Loffie het beter gebou as Cash.... |
We also had a lot more cash in loffies day |
We also had Earl Rose...
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Is EW die nuwe Earl Rose..?
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Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2021 at 9:23am
Leeubok wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Niela wrote:
WitBoer wrote:
Hel self Loffie het beter gebou as Cash.... |
We also had a lot more cash in loffies day |
We also had Earl Rose...
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Is EW die nuwe Earl Rose..? |
Nee hel, EW is swak, maar darem nie so swak nie... Loffie word onthou vir sy "ons bou aan 'n span" en sy WP ster Earl Rose Cash sal onthou word vir sy "ons bou aan 'n span" en sy WP ster EW Viljoen... So Cash is eerder die nuwe Loffie...
------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2021 at 9:58am
As ek reg verstaan gaan daar twee stelle afrigters en spanne wees. Een vir die Europese kompetisie en een vir die plaaslike reekse. Dalk skuif hulle Kontant en EW na die plaaslike groep
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2021 at 12:15pm
Transvaal wrote:
Dis Cash se 4rde jaar as Curriebeker afrigter, Loffie was byvoorbeeld net 3 jaar Curriebeker afrigter | Is dit al 4 jaar? hoe is dit dan dat Loffie 45 games in 3 jaar afgerig het, terwyl Cash nou eers op 30 staan na bykans 4 jaar? Het dit dalk te doen met die feit dat ons destyds party jare teen die eersteliga spanne ook gespeel het? en dalk ook Covid?
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 18-Jan-2022 at 3:06pm
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Jan-2022 at 9:32am
United Rugby Championship coaches at the Lions:Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2021-2022 | 6 | 2 | 33.3% | |
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2022 at 10:35am
United Rugby Championship coaches at the Lions:
Coach | Period | Matches | Won | Win Ratio |
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Ivan van Rooyen | 2021-2022 | 7 | 2 | 28.6% |
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2022 at 2:50pm
kan hom maar solank 8-2 maak.. 25%
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2022 at 7:02pm
PaBz0r wrote:
kan hom maar solank 8-2 maak.. 25% |
Kan dit maar solank 18-3 maak 16.67%
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2022 at 10:12pm
Ek besef nou net, die Leeus staan nou op 0 uit 4 vir 2022 dusver.
92 punte vir en 179 teen ons, so dit is 87 punteverskil met 'n gemiddelde verloor van 21.75 punte.
3 van die tellings teen ons was om en by 50 punte: 48 (WP - Curriebeker), 50 (Pumas - Curriebeker) en dan 47 (Sharks - URC). Ons verdediging teen die Bulle was dus ons beste verdediging dusver vanjaar met "net" 34 punte teen ons. In die 4 games, was 2 van ons tellings 10 of minder: 9 (Pumas) en 10 (Bulle).
So basies het elke span so ver vanjaar 'n bonus punt wen teen ons gekry en ons kon nie eers dit regkry om binne 7 te verloor nie.
Ek dink hierdie is 'n baie goeie opsomming van hoekom so baie van ons so negatief is teen die unie, veral vanaf Saterdag se verloor.
Ek het met my vorige pos bo gegrap dat ons seker nog net een game sal wen in die URC, maar hel as mens so na die stats begin kyk en ook na al die beserings en hoe die afrigters asook Jaco Kriel praat van ons spelers wat sonder hart speel, dan begin ek dink net 3 wenne mag dalk net die realiteit word.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2022 at 10:18pm
Oja, en net een van daardie games (die WP ene) was weg gewees. So as ons so sleg op ons eie veld speel, dink net hoe lek Leinster (25 Februarie) hulle lippe al af vir ons.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2022 at 7:05am
TunaLion wrote:
Ek besef nou net, die Leeus staan nou op 0 uit 4 vir 2022 dusver.
92 punte vir en 179 teen ons, so dit is 87 punteverskil met 'n gemiddelde verloor van 21.75 punte.
3 van die tellings teen ons was om en by 50 punte: 48 (WP - Curriebeker), 50 (Pumas - Curriebeker) en dan 47 (Sharks - URC). Ons verdediging teen die Bulle was dus ons beste verdediging dusver vanjaar met "net" 34 punte teen ons. In die 4 games, was 2 van ons tellings 10 of minder: 9 (Pumas) en 10 (Bulle).
So basies het elke span so ver vanjaar 'n bonus punt wen teen ons gekry en ons kon nie eers dit regkry om binne 7 te verloor nie.
Ek dink hierdie is 'n baie goeie opsomming van hoekom so baie van ons so negatief is teen die unie, veral vanaf Saterdag se verloor.
Ek het met my vorige pos bo gegrap dat ons seker nog net een game sal wen in die URC, maar hel as mens so na die stats begin kyk en ook na al die beserings en hoe die afrigters asook Jaco Kriel praat van ons spelers wat sonder hart speel, dan begin ek dink net 3 wenne mag dalk net die realiteit word.
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Hel dis darem maar sleg
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Posted By: Attie Karate
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2022 at 9:48pm
Alles is waar, maar dinge is aan die gebeur. Dinge gaan binnekort verbeter. Dalk nie met wenne nie, maar watch net...
------------- Up the Vaal!
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Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2022 at 11:05pm
Attie Karate wrote:
Alles is waar, maar dinge is aan die gebeur. Dinge gaan binnekort verbeter. Dalk nie met wenne nie, maar watch net... |
Nie met wenne nie? Met wat dan? Pragtige verlore? Nee wat, count me out. Ek wil nie weer n 2010 hê nie en ons laaste 2 jaar was naby daaraan. Kyk maar net na die huidige CC en ons worst ever vorige CC.
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2022 at 2:54pm
Ek sal baie bly wees as dit waar word Attie en mens kan maar net aanhou glo, net soos destyds, maar al wat ons gehelp het was om in die dumps te wees, ons is nog nie. Die probleem is ook as ons daarso eindig ons nie maklik weer sal uit kom nie.
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Posted By: Blou
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2022 at 9:59am
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2022 at 10:45am
Blou wrote:
5 jaar plan? |
------------- Go LIONS!!!!!
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Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2022 at 11:10am
Hoe op aarde maak hierdie tipe statistiek nie waves in die Bestuurs kringe nie. Ek verstaan nog een of twee volstruis tipe kop in die sand steek houdings maar jeez tot die skoonmakers moet al hiervan weet...
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