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    Posted: 10-Aug-2021 at 1:50pm

Joseph Dweba will make his Springbok debut in the opening Castle Lager Rugby Championship match against Argentina at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium on Saturday, in a new-look team named by Jacques Nienaber on Tuesday.

 

The inclusion of Dweba at hooker was one of 12 changes to the matchday squad that won the third and final Test in the Castle Lager Lions Series in Cape Town last Saturday.

 

Nienaber made 10 changes to the starting team, which features a fresh backline and front row, and two changes on the replacements bench. With Argentina expected to pose a serious physical challenge, the Springbok coach opted for a six-two split of forwards amongst the replacements.

 

The only players who retained their places in the starting team from the final Test against the British & Irish Lions last weekend were Springbok captain Siya Kolisi (flank), Eben Etzebeth, Lood de Jager (both locks), Japer Wiese (No 8) and Cobus Reinach (scrumhalf).

 

The changes to the pack of forwards see Ox Nché – who has recovered from his neck injury – and Wilco Louw (both props) join forces with Dweba in the front row, replacing Steven Kitshoff, Frans Malherbe and Bongi Mbonambi respectively, while Kwagga Smith replaces Franco Mostert at blindside flank in a loose trio with Kolisi and Wiese.

 

Elton Jantjies starts at flyhalf in a halfback pairing with Reinach, replacing Handré Pollard, while Frans Steyn and Jesse Kriel will join forces in the midfield in place of Damian de Allende and Lukhanyo Am.

 

The other changes in the backline sees Damian Willemse replace Willie le Roux at fullback, while Sbu Nkosi and Aphelele Fassi – who made his Springbok debut against Georgia last month – will start at wing in place of Cheslin Kolbe and Makazole Mapimpi respectively.

 

On the replacements bench, Marvin Orie and Dan du Preez have been drafted in to provide cover at lock and loose forward respectively, while the two backline replacements are Herschel Jantjies (scrumhalf) and Morné Steyn (flyhalf).

 

“It is a long season, so it’s important that we manage the players well and rotate our squad to ensure that everyone gets sufficient game time and rest,” said Nienaber.

 

“We have a talented squad, and we are excited to see some of the players get a chance to show what they can do against a tough Argentinean outfit.

 

“Most of the players in this matchday squad have been with us since our conditioning camp in Bloemfontein in June, and they’ve been working hard at training and deserve this opportunity to take the field.

 

“This is a big game for us, and we are looking forward to seeing what these player combinations will deliver as we begin our Castle Lager Rugby Championship campaign.”

 

Nienaber congratulated Dweba on being selected to make his Springbok debut and said: “Joseph is hard worker and a mobile hooker, which will be valuable traits against a physical side such as Argentina.

 

“He has shown what he can do for Bordeaux-Bègles and previously for the Toyota Cheetahs, so we are excited to see him make the step-up to this level.”

 

Nienaber expected a tough Test against Los Pumas and said being physical and accurate in their execution were key factors going into the match.

 

“Argentina are very physical, so we need to stand up to that challenge in every contest,” said Nienaber.

 

“Their forward pack is renowned for making their presence felt, so our set pieces need to be spot-on and it will be important to dominate at the contact points.

 

“All-in-all we need to deliver an accurate performance all around and it is vital that we capitalise on the opportunities we have to score points.”

 

Andrew Brace (Ireland) will referee the match, with Karl Dickson (England) and AJ Jacobs (South Africa) serving as his assistant referees, while Tom Foley (Wales) will be on Television Match Official duty.

 

The match kicks off 17h05 and will be broadcast live on SuperSport.

 

Springbok team to face Argentina in the Castle Lager Rugby Championship:

15 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 10 caps, 5pts (1t)

14 – Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks) – 11 caps, 40 pts (8t)

13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles, Japan) – 47 caps, 60 pts (12t)

12 – Frans Steyn (Toyota Cheetahs) – 68 caps, 141 pts (11t, 7c, 21p, 3d)

11 – Aphelele Fassi (Cell C Sharks) – 1 cap, 5pts (1t)

10 – Elton Jantjies (vice-captain - Pau, France) – 39 caps, 283 pts (2t, 63c, 49p)

9 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 16 caps, 35pts (7t)

8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 3 caps, 0 pts

7 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 10 caps, 5 pts (1t)

6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 54 caps, 30 pts (6t)

5 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 48 caps, 25 pts (5t)

4 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 89 caps, 15 pts (3t)

3 – Wilco Louw (Harlequins, England) – 13 caps, 0 pts

2 – Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux, France) - uncapped

1 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 3 caps, 0 pts

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 37 caps, 30 pts (6t)

17 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 46 caps, 5 pts (1t)

18 – Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 23 caps, 0 pts

19 – Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers) – 4 caps, 0 pts

20 – Marco van Staden (Leicester Tigers) – 5 caps, 0 pts

21 – Dan du Preez (Sale Sharks) – 4 caps, 0 pts

22 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 14 caps, 25 pts (5t)

23 – Morné Steyn (Vodacom Bulls) – 67 caps, 742 points (8t, 102c, 156p, 10d)

 

Springbok record against Argentina:

Played 30; Won 26, Lost 3, Drawn 1; Points for 1058, Points against 594; Tries scored 125, Tries conceded 56; Highest score 73 pts, Biggest win 60 pts; Win %: 87%.

 

Milestones:

  • Frans Steyn needs nine more points to reach 150 career points.
  • Morné Steyn is the Springboks' second highest point scorer with 742 points and needs eight points to reach 750 career points. He holds the record for the most penalty goals (156) in his 67 Tests as a Springbok.
  • Steyn is the top points scorer against Argentina with 84 points (15 conversions and 18 penalty goals) in seven Test matches.
  • Elton Jantjies needs one penalty goal to earn his 50th career penalty goal.     

 

Miscellaneous:

  • The total Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is 412.
  • There are 192 caps in the backline with 220 caps amongst the forwards. On the bench there are a further 200 caps.
  • The average caps per player in the backline are 27, the forwards 27 while the players on the bench average 25.
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Dweba is 'n goeie haker, maar ek kannie help om te wonder waarom arme Marx altyd op die bank moet sit nie? Op vorm is hy die beste haker in die wereld! Sekerlik wil jy so ou so lank as moontlik op die veld he..? 

Of is dit alweer 'n numbers game..?
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Dweba is 'n goeie haker, maar ek kannie help om te wonder waarom arme Marx altyd op die bank moet sit nie? Op vorm is hy die beste haker in die wereld! Sekerlik wil jy so ou so lank as moontlik op die veld he..? 

Of is dit alweer 'n numbers game..?
Remember that SARU has put 50% as the target, and even this team falls short of that. So to answer, yes, it's a numbers game 
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Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Dweba is 'n goeie haker, maar ek kannie help om te wonder waarom arme Marx altyd op die bank moet sit nie? Op vorm is hy die beste haker in die wereld! Sekerlik wil jy so ou so lank as moontlik op die veld he..? 

Of is dit alweer 'n numbers game..?
Remember that SARU has put 50% as the target, and even this team falls short of that. So to answer, yes, it's a numbers game 

And that really pisses me off! Bongi had a terrible game in the 3rd test, he made one mistake after the other. Yet he stayed on until the 60th minute if I remember correctly. 
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Originally posted by Red_Machine Red_Machine wrote:

Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Dweba is 'n goeie haker, maar ek kannie help om te wonder waarom arme Marx altyd op die bank moet sit nie? Op vorm is hy die beste haker in die wereld! Sekerlik wil jy so ou so lank as moontlik op die veld he..? 

Of is dit alweer 'n numbers game..?
Remember that SARU has put 50% as the target, and even this team falls short of that. So to answer, yes, it's a numbers game 

And that really pisses me off! Bongi had a terrible game in the 3rd test, he made one mistake after the other. Yet he stayed on until the 60th minute if I remember correctly. 
Dit irriteer my ook. Marx is strate beter as beide Bongi en Dweba. Selfs daai Grobbelaar haker van die bulle is beter.
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Dink net die dag as ons, ons beste spelers, wit, Swart of pink op meriete kan kies..... Ons alreeds nr 1... Dink net hoe sterk ons Dan gaan wees... 
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Ek dink hulle speel juis vir Marx oor sy impak van die bank af. Dweba is 'n puik hakker en strate beter as Mbonambi op sy jong ouderdom. Ek het geen kwale met Dweba wat begin nie. Onthou net, Rassie en Jacques sien selfs die reserwes as spesialiste in daardie impak posisie. So selfs die reserwes het 'n anderste rol as die begin hakker om dit so te stel. Dit is glad nie oor vel kleur nie, anders sou hulle Herschel Jantjies laas week laat begin het ipv Cobus, waar hulle nou weer vir Hershel as 'n impak speler sien.

Ek moet bieg, dit is seker die eerste keer waar ons Bok spanne basies 95% op meriete gekies word, selfs met al die swart spelers. Daar is min spelers met wie ek pyne het en van hulle is wit.

Selfs Kolisi het my baie impress hierdie met die Leeus reeks met sy puik spel en kapteinskap en voor die reeks was ek nog 100% teen hom. Hel, selfs Damian Willemse was nie te sleg met sy paar kanse teen die Leeus nie - wys net wat ordentlike afrigting en spel struktuur aan spelers kan doen.

In die hele squad van 43 spelers, is die enigste swakkerige spelers vir my:
-- Orie (maar hy is ons 5de keuse slot na Mostert,Eben,Lood en RG)
-- Mbonambi (wat net plein pateties was veral laas naweek)
-- Wiese (wat dalk nog sukkel om die step up te maak na toets rugby)
-- Marco van Staden (wat my baie teleurstel tot dusver want ek rate hom eintlik hoog)
-- Frans Steyn (hopelik bewys hy my verkeerd, maar selfs teen Georgia was hy pateties en baie selfsugtig)
-- Jesse Kriel (Ek ken heel wat Bulle fans wat selfs bly is hy is weg by die Bulle)

4 van die 6 is wit.


Inteendeel is van die beste spelers in ons squad nie wit nie:
-- Nyakane is 'n monster aan beide kante van die skrum - seker die eerste speler wat ek ooit gesien het wat so dominant is aan beide kante van die skrum.
-- Kolbe - ek hoef seker nie eers hier iets te noem nie, ja hy kry nog kritiek oor sy size, maar op die groot oomblikke kom hy altyd deur. Ek kan ook nie onthou dat hy ons sommer ooit 'n drie gekos het nie en hyt selfs vir Itoje getackle deur goeie scramble defence hierdie naweek.
-- Mapimpi - Ek kan nie glo hoe ver hy gekom het die laaste paar jaar nie. 14 drieë in 16 toetse sê dit als.
-- Am - seker die beste buite senter (of baie naby daaraan) in die wêreld op die oomblik op aanval en verdediging.
-- Ox - briljante stut wat ook goeie lopies inkry en baie mobiel is.

So ek dink bietjie van hierdie kritiek is bietjie onregverdig teenoor ons huidige bestuur. Hel, my enigste kwaal is dat hulle nie vir Vincent Tshituka in die groter groep ingesluit het in die begin van die jaar nie en hy is self ook 'n swart speler.
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Nyakane dominant op vaskop? Ons kyk seker verskillende wedstryde
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En Ox is beweeglik maar nie baie goeie skrummer nie
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Tuna, oor Marx gaan ek nie met jou saamstem nie. Dit maak geensins sin om die beste haker in die wereld 20min gametime te gee nie. Hy moet begin en so lank as moontlik op die veld wees. Ek het self gese Dweba is nie 'n slegte speler nie, maar hy is nie beter as Marx, en nie hy of Bongi verdien om te begin en 60min te speel terwyl Marx 20min kry
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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

Nyakane dominant op vaskop? Ons kyk seker verskillende wedstryde


Ek dink ons doen dalk. Hy was swak on die SA A game, maar in die eerste toets was hy goed. Hy was ook voor sy besering in 2019 ongelooflik goed op vasskop, maar dit is net my opinie.
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Originally posted by Transvaal Transvaal wrote:

En Ox is beweeglik maar nie baie goeie skrummer nie


Hyt my in die eerste toets teen die Leeus heel verkeerd bewys want ek het ook so geglo tot dan. Onthou, ons het beheer van daardie game verloor toe Ox en Nyakane vervang was in die 2de helfte deur Kitshof en Malherbe. Daardie game was Malherbe veral baie vrot (selfs vrotter as gewoonlik), maar mens moet seker in ag neem dat hy toe net herstel was van COVID.

Maar kom ons kyk hierdie naweek hoe doen Ox, een game is seker maar te vroeg om te judge.
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Tuna, oor Marx gaan ek nie met jou saamstem nie. Dit maak geensins sin om die beste haker in die wereld 20min gametime te gee nie. Hy moet begin en so lank as moontlik op die veld wees. Ek het self gese Dweba is nie 'n slegte speler nie, maar hy is nie beter as Marx, en nie hy of Bongi verdien om te begin en 60min te speel terwyl Marx 20min kry


Kyk oor Bongi wil ek nie eers praat nie. Hy verdien nie om in die Bokspan te speel nie en selfs die snert wat almal praat van hoe goed hy skrum is nie waar nie. Kyk hoe baie verbeter die Springbok skrums as enige ander hakker speel (selfs Ntubeni wat ek ook nie rate nie).

Maar ek voel Dweba moet bietjie kans kry want hy moet gegroom word. En dan soos ek ook genoem het, Marx se impak in daardie laaste 30 minute is unbelievable teen voorspelers wat reeds moeg is. Kyk bietjie hoe oorheers ons mauls veral in die 2de helfte van games. Marx is reeds so amazing as starting hakker, maar teen spelers wat moeg is, dan is sy impak exponensieel groter. Kyk na die vorige 2 games se 2de helfte se mauls en skrums om te sien waarvan ek praat. So ek verstaan Rassien en Jacques se redenasie hier. Dit maak ook nie sin om met jou hele beste span die eerste helfte te begin en dan 8 second string spelers op te bring in die 2de helfte nie - en dit is hoekom dit die bomb squad is, want dan speel van ons 1st stringers teen die ander span e se 2nd stringers. Dit gaan teen die hele tradisionele keuses/logika van die reserwe bank, maar dit is juis hoekom dit so n impak het en so left field is en almal in die WC onkant gevang het.

Maar wat weet ek, lyk my my opinies is maar baie anders as almal op hierdie site.
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Originally posted by Leeubok Leeubok wrote:

Tuna, oor Marx gaan ek nie met jou saamstem nie. Dit maak geensins sin om die beste haker in die wereld 20min gametime te gee nie. Hy moet begin en so lank as moontlik op die veld wees. Ek het self gese Dweba is nie 'n slegte speler nie, maar hy is nie beter as Marx, en nie hy of Bongi verdien om te begin en 60min te speel terwyl Marx 20min kry


Kyk oor Bongi wil ek nie eers praat nie. Hy verdien nie om in die Bokspan te speel nie en selfs die snert wat almal praat van hoe goed hy skrum is nie waar nie. Kyk hoe baie verbeter die Springbok skrums as enige ander hakker speel (selfs Ntubeni wat ek ook nie rate nie).

Maar ek voel Dweba moet bietjie kans kry want hy moet gegroom word. En dan soos ek ook genoem het, Marx se impak in daardie laaste 30 minute is unbelievable teen voorspelers wat reeds moeg is. Kyk bietjie hoe oorheers ons mauls veral in die 2de helfte van games. Marx is reeds so amazing as starting hakker, maar teen spelers wat moeg is, dan is sy impak exponensieel groter. Kyk na die vorige 2 games se 2de helfte se mauls en skrums om te sien waarvan ek praat. So ek verstaan Rassien en Jacques se redenasie hier. Dit maak ook nie sin om met jou hele beste span die eerste helfte te begin en dan 8 second string spelers op te bring in die 2de helfte nie - en dit is hoekom dit die bomb squad is, want dan speel van ons 1st stringers teen die ander span e se 2nd stringers. Dit gaan teen die hele tradisionele keuses/logika van die reserwe bank, maar dit is juis hoekom dit so n impak het en so left field is en almal in die WC onkant gevang het.

Maar wat weet ek, lyk my my opinies is maar baie anders as almal op hierdie site.

Ek verstaan wat jy se Tuna, en daar is baie meriete daarin om so goeie speler eers later op te bring. MAAR, sit jouself in Marx se skoene. Dink jy hy sal verkies om die reserwe haker te wees en 20min gametime te kry, of dink jy hy sal wil begin en minimum 60min kry? Wetend jy is beter as die ander hakers in die squad..

Ook, teen beter spanne soos die AB's gaan daai strategie dalk backfire. Ons almal weet hulle punish enige klein foutjie.. As Bongi teen hulle soveel k*k aanjaag soos in die 3de toets is ons 20+punte agter na 60min, dan help dit niks om Marx dan op te stuur nie, hy gaan nie die game kan swaai en daai agterstand uitwis nie

Dis maar hoe ek dinge sien... 
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Ek het 'n groot issue met Bongi. Hy het 5 foute (2 knock-ons, 2 penalties en 'n skewe ingooi) gemaak in net die eerste helfte Saterdag. Ja, dit is korrek, hy irriteer my so baie, dat ek dit al 'n sport maak om sy foute te tel. Ek sien oorsese koerante het hom 'n 4 gegee uit 10 en met meeste van die ratings het ek saamgestem, behalwe daardie ene, want ek sou hom 'n 2 gee. Mens moet regtig hard werk om swakker te speel as wat hy soms speel.

So ek sien jou punt en ek sou moontlik ook irriteerd wees as ek Marx was, maar ek verstaan Rassie se plan ook aan die ander kant. Ons kort net 'n beter hakker as Mbonambi en wat ek van Dweba in die SA 'A' game gesien het (en in sy games vir die Cheetahs), was baie goed.

Dalk teen 'n span soos die ABs sal ek ook nie die balls hê om voort te gaan met hierdie taktiek nie, want daar is hul reserwes nie veel swakker as hul begin span nie, so dan soek mens vir Marx vir amper die volle game op die veld.
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Was dit Matt Proudfoot wat gedurende die Wereldbeker probeer het om die wereld te oortuig dat Bongi op meriete die eerste keuse haker is? Het toe al in my koffie verstik...
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I like Bongi , he had a bad game . But he often has great games as well.

Is Marx a better player ? Yes , he is. 

Marx should be on the field for a long as possible sure. But if there are 10 minutes left and we need to win or keep our cool, then I’d rather have Marx on the field. 

It’s a tough one. 
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Net 6 in die begin XV speel nie oorsee nie
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