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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den :   Niela wrote:There is a lot...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=39">valie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03-Mar-2020 at 9:34am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Niela" alt="Originally posted by Niela" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Niela wrote:</strong><br /><br />There is a lot of things going on, a lot of moving pieces,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Our attack isnt bad, we are scoring tries and we are creating momentum, we need to gel a bit better.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For me, its defense and set piece dominance, fix that and we will win more</div></td></tr></table>Agree, and also somehow we manage to cough up possession too many times when we are on the attack.&nbsp;<div>One must also remember, from 2016 onwards most teams' defensive systems have evolved to try and counter the ball in hand approach, so the attacking style we had back then, also had to evolve. Back then, most teams that applied the ball in had approach ran from almost everywhere on the field and scored tries, while nowadays it seems that most backline tries are now scored by counter attacks, when defenses are in tatters, and by using kicks (cross kick etc.).</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by valie - 03-Mar-2020 at 9:37am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=39">valie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03-Mar-2020 at 9:24am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Leeubok" alt="Originally posted by Leeubok" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Leeubok wrote:</strong><br /><br />Valie, ek onthou die slegter jare het ons ook gereeld net-net verloor, dan het mens baie gese: as daai een net dit gedoen het, die ref net daai geblaas het, dan het ons gewen. Feit bly staan ons het verloor.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Ek dink persoonlik die hele groep, afrigters en spelers, moet kans gegee word tot die einde van die seisoen. Ek het geen verwagting van hulle nie, ek weet ons gaan nie die uitspeel rondtes haal nie.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>En onthou, Rudolf en die res van die bestuur het die unie van die grond af opgetel en een van die beste super rugby spanne gemaak. Dit is maar altyd moeilik om bo te bly</div></td></tr></table>Ek stem saam.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den : There is a lot of things going...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=167">Niela</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03-Mar-2020 at 9:11am<br /><br />There is a lot of things going on, a lot of moving pieces,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Our attack isnt bad, we are scoring tries and we are creating momentum, we need to gel a bit better.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For me, its defense and set piece dominance, fix that and we will win more</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den : Yes soft moments are costing us...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=180">L13</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03-Mar-2020 at 8:50am<br /><br />Yes soft moments are costing us and we could be 3 wins from 4...but I would still be concerned. Results are less important this year than putting the right structures and systems in place. At the moment we aren't seeing much of that. We can blame the guys at the top and they do need to shoulder some of the blame (I am less than impressed with player contracting and retention). However, part of the chat Cash would have had when he signed was "who do you want as your assistants". No coach gets all the guys they want because of budget and politics but they can at least get some of the guys they want. So we can't completely blame the administrators for a completely inexperienced coaching team.<div><br></div><div>Someone said that the 2013 team had less "known" players but you could instantly see what the team's game plan was. Ball in hand rugby but with strong set pieces, a mobile pack with good hands, attacking the gain line in pods of three, shifting the ball wide, counter attacking from deep and tries over penalties. Every game they got a little better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Who knows what our current style of play or game plan is? For example pick a position and then pick one player in the world that you could put in the team that would suit the game plan and improve the team...can you name one? I can't, because I know how supporters want the team to play - but honestly have no idea how the coach wants them to play right now.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den : Valie, ek onthou die slegter jare...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=26">Leeubok</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03-Mar-2020 at 7:07am<br /><br />Valie, ek onthou die slegter jare het ons ook gereeld net-net verloor, dan het mens baie gese: as daai een net dit gedoen het, die ref net daai geblaas het, dan het ons gewen. Feit bly staan ons het verloor.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Ek dink persoonlik die hele groep, afrigters en spelers, moet kans gegee word tot die einde van die seisoen. Ek het geen verwagting van hulle nie, ek weet ons gaan nie die uitspeel rondtes haal nie.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>En onthou, Rudolf en die res van die bestuur het die unie van die grond af opgetel en een van die beste super rugby spanne gemaak. Dit is maar altyd moeilik om bo te bly</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den :   emiel1 wrote:Soos julle opmerk,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=39">valie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02-Mar-2020 at 6:40pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by emiel1" alt="Originally posted by emiel1" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>emiel1 wrote:</strong><br /><br />Soos julle opmerk, sit ons tans met 'n hele paar probleme:<div>- Klomp onervare spelers gelei deur oor die muur veterane sowel as spelers wat dit nie by ander spanne kon maak nie of meeste van die tyd beseer is.</div><div>- Ivan van Rooyen het amper 'n dekade se Super rugby ondervinding saam met Mitchell en Ackerman, en onder hom, was die Leeus een van die fikste spanne die afgelope paar jaar. Maar om hom dan opgesaal te sit met junior en skoolafrigters om hom by te staan in spesialis posisies is verby absurd.</div><div>- Dit is nou al twee of drie jaar dat top bestuur klei trap met swak kontraktering en aanstelling van onbekwame personeel. Almal kla tereg oor spelers en afrigters, maar ons grootste probleme le met die unie se top bestuur en die manier hoe hulle die "herbou" proses bestuur het.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>Ek dink ons probleme is n kombinasie van alles wat hier bo genoem is. As ons eerlik moet wees, is ons einlik net outplay deur die Jaguares. Die Stormers game en die Waratahs game moes ons beide gewen het. Teen die Stormers het ons die wedstryd dom geeindig. Ons moes die laaste strafskop hoek toe skop en daarvanaf gemaul het.&nbsp;<div>Teen die Tahs het swak dissipline ons gekos.</div><div>Teen die Tahs en die Jaguares moes ons catch up rugby speel, en dis waar jy ondervinding kort.</div><div>Ek dink ons probleem le nie net by die afrigter, of net by die bestuur of net by die spelers nie. Dis n kombinasie, en gooi n tekort aan geld in die mix, en dan het jy die antwoord.</div><div><br></div><div>Ons is glad nie so swak soos wat ons rekord se nie. Sagte oomblikke het ons 2 games gekos. Dis vroeg in die seisoen. Kom ons hoop die manne keer hulle seisoen om.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den :   emiel1 wrote:Soos julle opmerk,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=28">Attie Karate</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02-Mar-2020 at 6:15pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by emiel1" alt="Originally posted by emiel1" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>emiel1 wrote:</strong><br /><br />Soos julle opmerk, sit ons tans met 'n hele paar probleme:<div>- Klomp onervare spelers gelei deur oor die muur veterane sowel as spelers wat dit nie by ander spanne kon maak nie of meeste van die tyd beseer is.</div><div>- Ivan van Rooyen het amper 'n dekade se Super rugby ondervinding saam met Mitchell en Ackerman, en onder hom, was die Leeus een van die fikste spanne die afgelope paar jaar. Maar om hom dan opgesaal te sit met junior en skoolafrigters om hom by te staan in spesialis posisies is verby absurd.</div><div>- Dit is nou al twee of drie jaar dat top bestuur klei trap met swak kontraktering en aanstelling van onbekwame personeel. Almal kla tereg oor spelers en afrigters, maar ons grootste probleme le met die unie se top bestuur en die manier hoe hulle die "herbou" proses bestuur het.&nbsp;</div><div></td></tr></table> <br></div><div>Jip <img src="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ek sien weer 'n rooi kaart op pad <img src="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=158">emiel1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02-Mar-2020 at 4:18pm<br /><br />Soos julle opmerk, sit ons tans met 'n hele paar probleme:<div>- Klomp onervare spelers gelei deur oor die muur veterane sowel as spelers wat dit nie by ander spanne kon maak nie of meeste van die tyd beseer is.</div><div>- Ivan van Rooyen het amper 'n dekade se Super rugby ondervinding saam met Mitchell en Ackerman, en onder hom, was die Leeus een van die fikste spanne die afgelope paar jaar. Maar om hom dan opgesaal te sit met junior en skoolafrigters om hom by te staan in spesialis posisies is verby absurd.</div><div>- Dit is nou al twee of drie jaar dat top bestuur klei trap met swak kontraktering en aanstelling van onbekwame personeel. Almal kla tereg oor spelers en afrigters, maar ons grootste probleme le met die unie se top bestuur en die manier hoe hulle die "herbou" proses bestuur het.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den : Ek weet nie eintlik wat om te...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Transvaal</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02-Mar-2020 at 3:19pm<br /><br />Ek weet nie eintlik wat om te se nie, as ons nie eers die heel onderste span op die log kan klop nie, dan het ek nie hoop dat dit 'n goeie seisoen kan wees nie]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Change needed in Lions&#039; den : Ek het nognie &amp;#039;n game gekyk...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=26">Leeubok</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8735<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02-Mar-2020 at 3:13pm<br /><br />Ek het nognie 'n game gekyk hierdie jaar nie aangesien ek nie meer dstv het nie, so dis bietjie moeilik om kommentaar te lewer op wat presies fout is.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Een ding wat ek dink uitstaan is ons kort 'n regte leier. Jantjies is wel 'n legende in leeu rugby, maar hy het nie dieselfde effek wat WW of selfs Marx op die span het nie. Dan, al die posisies wat ons voor die seisoen begin het bespreek het as problematies is raai wat, nogsteeds problematies! Haker, slot, scrummie..&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Swys se laaitie het nognie in enige van sy rolle 'n impak gemaak nie. Die afrigters is dalk 'n great klomp ouens, en dis baie nice om ouens wat deur die sisteem gekom het te beloon. Maar soos iemand anders al op die thread uitgewys het, as jy wil kompeteer vir die beker moet jy 'n wereld klas afrigter he. Ons het voor die seisoen ook al so gese, ons het nog gegrap na die WC hoeveel afrigters dalk beskikbaar sou wees.</div><div><br></div><div>Ek hoop maar Cash en sy span kan dinge omkeer, maar ek sal ook nie verbaas wees as dit slegter gaan vorentoe nie. As 'n span se selfvertroue eers laag is raak dit baie moeilik om dit om te keer.</div>]]>
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