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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel :   WitBoer wrote:Hy moes geweet...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=21">Blou</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 2:09pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by WitBoer" alt="Originally posted by WitBoer" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>WitBoer wrote:</strong><br /><br />Hy moes geweet het dit sou hewige negatiewe reaksie uitlok, veral na die vorige keer. Soos ek verstaan wil Rugby League ook niks met hom te doen he nie. Glo ook nie Europese spanne gaan enigsins bande met hom smee na sy uitlatings nie.<div>Ek weet nie of ek hom moet bewonder vir die feit dat hy weier om sy uitlatings terug te trek nie en of hy maar net arrogant is om te dink rugby Australie sal hom niks doen nie...</div><div>Almal mag opinies he, maar ongelukkig kan jy as publieke figuur nie sulke omstrede uitlatings maak en verwag dat daar niks van gaan kom nie... Soos ek verstaan is Quantas Airways (Aussies se Hoofborg) se CEO gay... So dalk nie baie slim om die hand wat voed te byt nie...</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Jy het my stil geskryf vandag.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/smileys/smiley41.gif" border="0" alt="Beer" title="Beer" /></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=4">AK </a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 1:44pm<br /><br /><a href="https://news.sky.com/story/billy-vunipola-england-rugby-star-&#102;ormally-warned-for-defending-anti-gay-post-11695364%20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://news.sky.com/story/billy-vunipola-england-rugby-star-formally-warned-for-defending-anti-gay-post-11695364</a>
<div><br></div><div><h1 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h1" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; font-weight: 400; line-height: 56px; color: rgb74, 74, 74; font-family: &quot;Sky Text&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 48px !imant; margin-bottom: 22px !imant;"><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-;"><span -role="short-text-target" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-;">Billy Vunipola: England rugby star 'formally warned' for defending anti-gay post</span></div></h1><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">Saracens condemn their number eight for a "serious error of judgement" as he insists his "intention was never to cause suffering".</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">An England rugby player has been formally warned about his future in club side Saracens after defending an anti-gay social media post.</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">Billy Vunipola held "lengthy discussions" with senior representatives from the top-flight team about his support for Australia rugby star Israel Folau.</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">Folau looks likely to have his contract terminated for posting a message on his Instagram saying hell awaits "drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolaters".</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">Vunipola liked the post and wrote in a comment that "I don't hate anyone", adding: "He's saying how we live our lives needs to be closer to how God intended them to be. Man was made for woman to pro create that was the goal no?"</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">Saracens condemned their number eight for a "serious error of judgement in publicly sharing his opinion which is inconsistent with the values of the club and contravenes his contractual obligations".</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">In a statement on the club's website, Vunipola insisted his "intention was never to cause suffering".</span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;"><br></span></font></h2><h2 ="sdc-site-comp&#111;nent-er--h2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; -sizing: border-; line-height: 30px; margin-bottom: 46px !imant;"><font color="#707070" face="Sky Text, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 400;">But he stopped short of offering an apology.</span></font></h2></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel : Vir my is `n groot probleem dat...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=4">AK </a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 7:35am<br /><br />Vir my is `n groot probleem dat die media kieskeurig is oor wat hy gesê het. Hy het baie sondes bespreek maar net sekeres word uitgelig en bohaai oor gemaak. Twitter was dalk nie die slimste platform om te gebruik nie omdat hy al daaroor gewaarsku is maar ek bewonder hom waarvoor hy staan.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Ek dink die uitlatings oor homosexualiteit is nou juis wat mense omgekrap het.... maar hy het ook ander sexuele immorele gedrag uitgewys wat nie genoem word nie.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Ek dink elke persoon het `n kruis om te dra en `n sonde waarvoor hulle tasbaar is. Dit help nie ons sê nou dat sekere sondes reg is omdat die samelewing se uitkyk verander nie. Die week juis het TD Jakes (Amerikaanse pastoor) genoem dat die kerk se uitkyk op homosexualiteit moet "Evolve".... Dink dit is belaglik..... Samelwing se uitkyk kan nie bepaal wat in die bybel staan nie.</div><div><br></div><div>Jammer preek so bietjie maar ek het ook in `n kerk groot geword waar homosexuele uitgewys was maar die mense wat vinger wys sal rond neek in hulle huwelik wat net so verkeerd is. Sy tweet het juis sonde utigewys en nie die mense nie en dit is wat die kerk en Christene moet doen. Verwerp die sonde maar nie die persoon nie... wees leifde teen oor hulle.</div><div><br></div><div>Laastens moet ek saam met julle stem. Ek dink hy sal baie goed lyk in `n leeus trui.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel : Terwyl ons nou op die subject...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=26">Leeubok</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 7:21am<br /><br />Terwyl ons nou op die subject van geloof en sport is. Een ding wat my vreeslik geirriteer het op 'n stadium is Hashim Amla wat 'n muslim is (as ek reg onthou). Met tye wat Castle Lager die proteas geborg het wou hy mos nie klere dra waarop Castle staan nie. Maar hy het nie 'n probleem gehad om hulle geld of die voordele van die borgskap te geniet nie..&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel : Waarmee ek saam jou stem Witboer...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=26">Leeubok</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 7:17am<br /><br />Waarmee ek saam jou stem Witboer is dat dit baie jammer is as Folau nooit weer gaan rugby speel nie. Ek dink hy is die beste speler in Aus, en onder 'n hoe bal is daar niemand beter as hy nie.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel :   Transvaal wrote:Witboer, hier...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=25">WitBoer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16-Apr-2019 at 7:10am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Transvaal" alt="Originally posted by Transvaal" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Transvaal wrote:</strong><br /><br />Witboer, hier is 'n skakel wat handel oor wat jy se<div><br></div><div><a href="https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/die-wet-van-moses-en-die-wet-van-christus/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/die-wet-van-moses-en-die-wet-van-christus/</a></div><div><br></div><div>My disclaimer is dat dit my suster en swaer se webwerf is, maar ek dink die bladsy som dit goed op</div></td></tr></table><div>Dankie Transvaal, dus is om Gay te wees dan nie meer 'n sonde nie want dit was deel van die 603 wette van Moses? Romeine 10:4 maak dit dan duidelik dat die wette ongeldig gemaak is met die dood van Christus... Maar aan die ander kant het Jesus self in Mat 5:17 gese dat hy nie gekom het om die wette van Moses weg te vat nie...</div><div>Die probleem wat ek het met die deursnee Christen is juis dat hulle maklik die "wette van Moses" gebruik om mense te veroordeel, maar gehoorsaam self baie van die wette nie... (Haal eers die balk uit jou eie oog...)</div><div>Ek is nie 'n gelowige nie, was wel baie gelowig jare terug, het ook die Bybel bestudeer. Ek kan seker verstaan dat gelowige gays omgekrap is omdat hy vir hulle se hulle gaan hel toe. Sy uitspraak pla my nie in die minste nie en ek tel ook onder die wat hy hel toe stuur... Miskien sou dit my gepla het as ek in 'n hel geglo het, ek weet nie.</div><div>Ek wil nie graag oor geloof praat hier nie, uit ondervinding weet ek dat dit altyd net uitloop op 'n rusie.</div><div>Wat wel jammer is, is dat Folau se speeldae oor is, hy is een van die groot talente in Australie en selfs die wereld en rugby lei op die ou einde onder sy uitsprake, sou hy minder van 'n Christen gewees het as hy nie sulke uitsprake gemaak het nie? Sekerlik nie.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Transvaal</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15-Apr-2019 at 9:48pm<br /><br />Nog 'n goeie skakel van dieselfde webwerf<div><br></div><div><a href="https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/wat-die-bybel-leer-oor-s&#111;nde/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/wat-die-bybel-leer-oor-sonde/</a></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel : Witboer, hier is &amp;#039;n skakel...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=3">Transvaal</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15-Apr-2019 at 9:37pm<br /><br />Witboer, hier is 'n skakel wat handel oor wat jy se<div><br></div><div><a href="https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/die-wet-van-moses-en-die-wet-van-christus/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://faithequip.co.za/dissipelskapkursus/die-wet-van-moses-en-die-wet-van-christus/</a></div><div><br></div><div>My disclaimer is dat dit my suster en swaer se webwerf is, maar ek dink die bladsy som dit goed op</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Rugby Australië draai sy rug op Israel : The problem is that most christians...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=25">WitBoer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15-Apr-2019 at 8:50pm<br /><br />The problem is that most christians pick and choose what is important for them in their holy book... Being gay is wrong, but not being a virgin when you get married is okay. Eating pork is okay, wearing clothes made from different fabrics is okay and eating shellfish is okay... Shaving your beard is fine and it is also fine if women preach... Most Christians will not allow their daughters to marry the guy who raped her and they also do not circumcise their sons...<div>Most Christians believe that all these things are not wrong or rules anymore since they are written in the old testament, but so is the "gay" part... But hey that is wrong!!!&nbsp;<br></div><div>Christians should make up their minds as to whether the rules in the old testament applies or not and not only pick and choose the ones they like...</div><div>If being gay is a sin, then having tattoos is also a sin and Mr. Folau has a couple of those...</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/member_profile.asp?PF=23">TunaLion</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7761<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15-Apr-2019 at 4:49pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Transvaal" alt="Originally posted by Transvaal" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Transvaal wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by valie" alt="Originally posted by valie" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>valie wrote:</strong><br /><br />Ek sou nie omgegee het as ons hom by die Leeus kon kry nie.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Ek stem so 300% saam met jou</div><div></td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Sal super happy wees. Ons kort juis n heelagter (onder andere)<br></div>]]>
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